Originally Posted by lazarus

my daughter??

NO, i wouldn't




your daughter??


why yes, yes i would :p

Originally Posted by David.

heh, my prom date wore something like that.

Originally Posted by badgirl

Does it come with a condom attached to it anywhere? :hmmm:

Originally Posted by crossbow

Did he get odd stares?

Originally Posted by David.

ahaha the noobs got jokes

Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????

Originally Posted by David.

ahaha the noobs got jokes

Originally Posted by Phobia

You can't, which is why you do the best you can when you have some control and let her live her life. If you're an overbearing control freak with your children, you will not win. I lived the evidence of that.

Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????

Originally Posted by stevieray

He's been here since 2001.

YOU are the noob.

Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Pastor Mike, We've only spent about 6 months every 4 years in the States over the last 29 years ... talking about rude awaking in fashion .... or is it lack of fashion? Shocking!!!

Someone mentioned it is no worse than a swim suit. I can't believe how little "decent" girls wear these days. But, I guess from a practical point of view ... if it's okay in the pool/beach why is it not okay at the prom.

Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Actually, on the swimsuit bit. First off, granted I'm not in as many locations to see such things, but I haven't seen swimsuits quite like that. Second of all, Proms are supposed to be formal affairs, I have difficulty thinking that something that revealing would be acceptable in a formal setting.

As for allowing the daughter to wear/preventing her from wearing it. First, prevention starts when they are young. My 12 year old already has a modest mindset and will make comments of dissaproval as to how other girls her age dress. Secondly, if I'm buying a dress that costs several hundred and upward, if I don't like it, I'm not paying for it.

Originally Posted by Manila-Chief

Would I allow my daughter? NOT if I could help it. But, I think some of you guys are just talking big talk. The real question ought to be ... in this day and age how do you prevent your daughter from wearing it if she so desires?????

Originally Posted by cdcox

Overall, talk to your kids early and often, let them know the expectations in your family, be flexible when possible, and show that you trust them as long as they don't betray the trust. Give them freedom as they are able to handle it. If you have been consistent in your message of love, looking out for their interests, support, family values, etc, all that parenting won't count for nothing in the face of peer pressure and their own hormones.

Originally Posted by David.

heh, my prom date wore something like that.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

No and I doubt that any school district would allow it unless it was covered with a couple layers of sweatshirts and an unbreakable lock... :shake:

Originally Posted by memyselfI

No and I doubt that any school district would allow it unless it was covered with a couple layers of sweatshirts and an unbreakable lock... :shake:

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I doubt the schools are all that concerned, after all, they refuse to teach abstinence-based methods but make condoms readily available.

Originally Posted by the Talking Can

you could loan her a burka...

Originally Posted by memyselfI

No and I doubt that any school district would allow it unless it was covered with a couple layers of sweatshirts and an unbreakable lock... :shake:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It's amazing to me how worked up our society gets about showing breasts. They're just breasts. Lovely, soft breasts. With perky nipples. That bounce up and down ever so slightly with each movement, rising and falling with each breath.

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I doubt the schools are all that concerned, after all, they refuse to teach abstinence-based methods but make condoms readily available.

Originally Posted by stevieray

If your daughter wants to wear this to prom, you've failed in at least one aspect of being a parent.

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

I doubt the schools are all that concerned, after all, they refuse to teach abstinence-based methods but make condoms readily available.

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Actually, she's a little late.

Originally Posted by chiefs4me

How true,,but why is it that every man acts as if it's the first set of breasts they have ever seen when they see them? ROFL

Originally Posted by chiefs4me

How true,,but why is it that every man acts as if it's the first set of breasts they have ever seen when they see them? ROFL

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Breasts are like snowflakes. No two pairs are alike, and it's fun to try to catch them on your tongue.

Originally Posted by Rain Man

It's amazing to me how worked up our society gets about showing breasts. They're just breasts. Lovely, soft breasts. With perky nipples. That bounce up and down ever so slightly with each movement, rising and falling with each breath.

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Breasts are like snowflakes. No two pairs are alike, and it's fun to try to catch them on your tongue.

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Alas, it appears nobody got my intent at humor...

:shake:

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I think you meant to say, "Alas, it appears nobody got my attempt at humor..."

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Thanks.

****er.

Originally Posted by mikey23545

Maybe the Islamic militants are right....

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

Well, if you're like me, once you've seen one pair....


... you pretty much wanna see the rest of 'em.

Originally Posted by Beatlemanu

Not that I have a daughter, but I would be more worried that she would even be contemplating wearing something like that...

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

That's yet to be determined in court.

By God, I will have my payday.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

exactly...

something has gone very wrong with the parenting of a child who would even contemplate wearing something like this.

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

http://www.nypost.com/photos/stylelede01242005.jpg

http://www.nypost.com/style/39213.htm

WOULD YOU LET YOUR DAUGHTER WEAR THIS PROM DRESS?

By DANICA LO

January 24, 2005 -- PROM princess or porn queen?

This prom dress is so skimpy, even the designer's CEO wouldn't let his teenage daughter wear it. But the dangerously revealing gown, prominently advertised in Seventeen Prom, YM Prom and Teen Prom, and on sale in a Midtown shop, is a top seller for the company this season.

"I was shocked when I first saw it, but now it's one of our top 20 dresses nationwide," says Nick Yeh, the CEO of Xcite, the Stafford, Texas, company that designed the dress and some 200 other styles this season.

"I have a 15-year-old daughter and, no, I would not recommend she wear this dress.

"As a businessman," he adds, "I'm not judging what a teenager should wear or not wear. It's up to the parents to decide for their own children."

In fact, some shops in smaller cities require girls to bring in parental permission slips to buy the dress, Yeh told The Post.

At Elite Designs, a formal shop in Midtown that has the barely-there gown on a mannequin, owner Surinder Nagpal says, "We've gotten a few calls about that dress. Originally, I wasn't going to stock [it], but my sales associate told me that girls would want it, so we're stocking it in black and red."

So far, says Helen Rodriguez, Nagpal's sales associate, no one has bought the $495 gown - but it just arrived.

"Our biggest sellers are still the traditional princess ball gowns, but sometimes a parent will come in with their daughter and will buy her whichever dress she wants," Rodriguez said.

"If my daughter had the body to wear it, I'd let her!"

It's too early to tell how many girls in New York City will buy the dress, but those who do may have a hard time getting through the prom door.

While it's up to individual school administrators to rule on prom fashions, the Board of Education maintains a disciplinary dress code that prohibits "wearing clothing or other items that are unsafe or disruptive to the educational process."

Lisa Maffei-Fuentes, principal of Christopher Columbus High School in The Bronx, bans "anything that resembles the famous [green Versace] J.Lo dress."

"I personally have to check every dress," says Maffei-Fuentes. "Breasts must be entirely covered and there should not be any cutouts in the bodice.

"On the night of the prom, we have chaperones at the entry looking at every dress. We also provide needle, thread and pins to close up holes and fix dresses to the appropriate length," she says.

"This is for their own protection. We're there to help them experience the prom as a wonderful, dignified evening."

Parents who saw pictures of the dress were shocked.

"It's absolutely too much," said Tal Mandler of Woodmere, Long Island, whose daughter, Dana, is 13. "It is very provocative and does not suit the occasion or the age."

"What happened to the rest of it?" wondered Hilda Salazar, whose 17-year-old daughter is a high school senior in Brooklyn.

Asked whether she'd allow her daughter to wear the dress to prom - or if she'd allow her 19-year-old son to date a girl who did - Salazar answered with a resounding no.

Students at Stuyvesant High School were just as appalled.

"Our school doesn't have a dress code, but I don't think any girls would wear that to prom," said senior Mary Zhang.

"How would you wear it, anyway? Double-sided tape doesn't last all night."

Senior Daniel Belu and junior Katie Hammond laughed out loud at the sight of it.

"I wouldn't want my girlfriend to wear this - at least not in public," Belu said.

"I don't think any girl would wear this to a prom. She'd step on her dress on the dance floor and everything would just fall out!"

Most of the students we spoke to were primarily concerned with practicalities. "You couldn't dance in that dress - actually, you couldn't do anything at all," says junior Vivian Healey.

"If you wore that to prom, you'd be falling out of it all night," says senior Angela Cho. "There's also hardly any material. I can't believe it costs $400. You could make it yourself if you really wanted to."

Other students expressed aesthetic concerns. "I don't think anyone would wear this to the prom. The dress looks kind of whore-ish," says junior Emma Herr.

"This dress would look great at a prom if the model in the picture wore it," says senior Vlaz Ermant, "but we don't have any girls like that at our school."

Originally Posted by bunnytrdr

Just think where we will be in a few years after Gay Marriages are commonplace and gay couples want to go to the prom. :shake: I shudder to think what kind of outfits the shemale would wear. :shake:

Originally Posted by memyselfI

exactly...

something has gone very wrong with the parenting of a child who would even contemplate wearing something like this.

Originally Posted by chiefs4me

Where did you get your degree? Times have changed,,clothes have changed,,kids have changed. You can not blame the parent if a child chooses to wear a dress like this if they are old enough. And if they aren't old enough,,they will wear the proper dress and then pull the other one out of a bag in the car and change. The only problem I see with this dress is that it is to revealing for a prom,,and she doesn't have the boobs to hold it up.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

and unlike this chick, she has the goods to wear the dress.

Originally Posted by JennyGump

DAMN! That girl has a butter face.

Originally Posted by Rain Man

That's why she's wearing the dress. No one will look at her face.

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

I am sure her parents don't share your values.

Originally Posted by chiefs4me

You mean momma won't let her wear it,,ROFL

Originally Posted by memyselfI

You are missing the point...

it's not about ME 'letting' her wear it at all. It's about her having the sense of worth and decency to not WANT to wear it. Obviously if parents have raised a daughter who would want to wear it at 16-18 then the parents have failed MISERABLY somewhere along the line.

Get back with me if you ever have a teenage or older daughter...until then you are speaking out your azz. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by bkkcoh

Luckily my 13 y/o daughter, looks like 18 or so, doesn't like that kind of clothing. It sounds as if the wife and I have done a decent job raising her, atleast in that aspect of things.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

Sounds like you have :thumb: and today it's not easy because of people who insist 'times have changed' and things like this are 'fine.' :banghead:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

http://www.nypost.com/photos/stylelede01242005.jpg

Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

All three of the statements you made are false.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

it's not about ME 'letting' her wear it at all. It's about her having the sense of worth and decency to not WANT to wear it. Obviously if parents have raised a daughter who would want to wear it at 16-18 then the parents have failed MISERABLY somewhere along the line.

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Perhaps from you perspective derived from the school you attended they are false. However, one of the towns we lived in had a program that openly distrubuted condoms freely to any teenager that would ask. I had a friend of mine living in a town in central Missouri that actually pulled his kids out of the public schools because of their stance on sexual education, of which, abstinence was not discussed, but encoragement for homosexual relationships were a part - and his kid was in the 5th or 6th grade. And I've seen some of the outfits that schools permit kids to wear, and they aren't covered a whole lot better than the girl in the pic. Granted, these things may not occur in every school, but they are occuring in many of the schools.

Originally Posted by memyselfI

You are missing the point...

it's not about ME 'letting' her wear it at all. It's about her having the sense of worth and decency to not WANT to wear it. Obviously if parents have raised a daughter who would want to wear it at 16-18 then the parents have failed MISERABLY somewhere along the line.

Get back with me if you ever have a teenage or older daughter...until then you are speaking out your azz. :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Perhaps from you perspective derived from the school you attended they are false. However, one of the towns we lived in had a program that openly distrubuted condoms freely to any teenager that would ask. I had a friend of mine living in a town in central Missouri that actually pulled his kids out of the public schools because of their stance on sexual education, of which, abstinence was not discussed, but encoragement for homosexual relationships were a part - and his kid was in the 5th or 6th grade. And I've seen some of the outfits that schools permit kids to wear, and they aren't covered a whole lot better than the girl in the pic. Granted, these things may not occur in every school, but they are occuring in many of the schools.

Originally Posted by PastorMikH

Perhaps from you perspective derived from the school you attended they are false. However, one of the towns we lived in had a program that openly distrubuted condoms freely to any teenager that would ask. I had a friend of mine living in a town in central Missouri that actually pulled his kids out of the public schools because of their stance on sexual education, of which, abstinence was not discussed, but encoragement for homosexual relationships were a part - and his kid was in the 5th or 6th grade. And I've seen some of the outfits that schools permit kids to wear, and they aren't covered a whole lot better than the girl in the pic. Granted, these things may not occur in every school, but they are occuring in many of the schools.

Originally Posted by ENDelt260

I've only looked at the pic 10 or 20 times. Haven't made it to her face yet.

Originally Posted by Clint in Wichita

One more thing: Why would a school encourage gay relationships? What do they get out of it?

I think you're simply paranoid.

Originally Posted by mmaddog

On what do you base the assumption he is being paranoid? I can tell you in my daughter's school they pound tolerance into the kids....race, creed, religious, sexual orientation.....

mmaddog
*******

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

Wouldn't we be a better society if we practiced a little more tolerance?

Originally Posted by RedNFeisty

Wouldn't we be a better society if we practiced a little more tolerance?