That's pretty much my assessment. I've never had a weed habit, so take this with a grain of salt, but I'm from one of those "stoner" familys. You know the type, my parents were children of the 70s and never quite gave that lifestyle up. Anyway... When I was about 14 my dad quit weed cold turkey because he got a good paying job with Union Pacific railroad that did random UAs. He just up and quit with no ill effects, he said it wasn't even that hard.

He tried to quit smoking many times though and never pulled it off. Died of a heart attack at 48. His death certificate says "smoking related heart disease"

Hah! Yeah that's the absolute truth. People can smell you man, it's strong. Same with cigarettes.

See what I mean? I cant tell whether you just quit smoking weed or not.

I smoked it for a while, about 7-8 yrs. I quit cold turkey one day and haven't looked back. I don't miss it at all. The aroma is putrid. The smell of burnt hair and dog crap...that sweet smell of incense. No, I don't miss it at all.....not at all, the feeling of euphoria and relaxation. The munchies, I love doritos. You know the smell was not that bad, I did'nt really mind it at all. Why am I shaking all of a sudden? Is it hot in here? Jesus, just one hit is all I need....Just one and I won't ever do it again. I can quit again any time! Screw this! I love the sticky!!!

It's all good.

If I had to quit, boredom would be my only symptom.

It's just nice to toke a fat bowl and watch some TV on Saturday afternoon.

thats what work is for hippy.

How much does half an ounce cost? Just think about all the money that you burned on it over the past 17 years, and then think about the car you'll be able to buy in the future once you quit.

It really depends...back in the day, an eighth went for $20. If your supplier didn't give bulk discounts, that's $80 a half.

anywhere from 25-200+

Okay, let's go with $80 a month. We'll assume that the price of marijuana has increased at a typical price rate of 3.5 percent per year, and that instead of spending the money on that, he had started an Individual Retirement Account. With tax-free returns, and compounding at 7 percent per year under the assumption that he was going with a solid conservative stock fund, his marijuana money would be $40,162.96 today if he had invested it.

Hopefully that will help him shake the habit.

Figure it for me. I used to go through about a quarter pound every 2 weeks. :D

a quarter cost $100 if you're smokin the good shit.

but that lasts about a month.


hmmm...should I get some weed...or pay my cable bill?

(one is just no good without the other)

OK. You take the money, I'll take the pot. $40 grand ain't much when spread over a lifetime. Who knows how much I've saved in stress related doctor bills, medication and such.

How many years? You may have smoked away a mortgage.

If you want $40k worth, you'll have to see Nate Newton.

And you have to figure in all the time you spent looking for your lost cats.

paying for weed is dumb. You gotta get enough to support your habit and enough to flip it and make money.

lol

Too bad dandelions don't get you high.

I could make a fortune.

Or - what if we found out that it was really the rolling papers that got you high.

I guess that would screw up a lot of paychecks for those who earn their living from MJ being illegal.

We'll just leave it as is, I guess.....

You don't have to look for them if it's raining. I learned that on Chiefs Planet.

I don't know. I was usually getting a half-pound at a time, selling a qp at $25 an eighth and smoking the rest...

25? was this in 1993?

That's a profound point. I wonder if anyone has ever tested that.

I can figure it out, but I need to know your tax bracket so I can figure out the taxes that you paid on it.

america is full of vice's. if he didn't spend the money on pot, it'd probably be on booze. if i were to quit, i'd probably spend my money on ammunition. or therapy and a prozac prescription.
the only reason i would ever quit though would be for a better job. but since i'm in school for that better job right now, i see no reason too.

ROFL

I'd love to see the look on the face of the IRS examiner when some dumbass actually pays taxes on weed selling profit.

they might not even do anything, just take the money and say "thanks, dumbfuck"

why is everyone hung up on this job/drug testing thing?

I have gotten 2 jobs that tested without missing a toke.

just sneak in clean piss.

the people that work there don't give a shit. you could probably walk in holding a bottle in plain sight.

Depending on the quality of what you were selling/smoking you were either screwing people blue on shwag or giving them a helluva deal on kind. And getting a HP at a time, I'm guessing it's shwag..... so who the hell pays $25 for an eighth of shwag?

must be that hydro

Keep in mind that I was assuming a conservative stock fund. Your returns could be much greater.

im telling

I'll see if I can get Herzig to tell me how much money he "wastes" on golf each year. That should be fair since they are both for recreation.

Why; I don't have any vices at all....Like posting on the internet when I'm not working, eating, sleeping or spending time with the Mrs. or the boys or going to church or spending time with my mom or....:banghead:

If it was grown hydroponically, it’s going to be really good shit that would bring $50/eighth.............

If you can tell me how many years you've been doing that church stuff, and how much you put in the collection plate each week, I can estimate how much money you'd have if you had just stayed home and watched football.

don't forget the cable bill. (or satellite, sorry skip)

Take it from an old hydroponic grower, hydroponics have nothing to do with the quality of the product. I used the nutrient film technique which was developed at Rutgers University. The quality is directly related to the quality of the parent plants. And having the good sense to get rid of the male plants. I used clones only so I didn't waste anything growing males. I'll grant you that hyroponically grown dope is usually very good. But that is because growers that are sophisticated enough to use hydroponics are also very skilled at growing dope. Shitty seeds yield shitty dope no matter how you grow it.

Did you ever have to shoot a nosy revenuer, skip?

but dosen't growing hydroponically avoid leaching of thc by the soil? this is what i have been lead to believe for years.

Your wisdom (and age) is very useful in this discussion Skip. This is very true.

Never heard that one. What would keep the nutrient solution from doing the same leaching? No revenooers, Rainman. I had a greenhouse in the middle of 150 acres. No other houses within a half mile. And they couldn't search even if they highly suspected it. Fourth amendment you know. A buddy of mine said I was "hiding in plain sight".

if they highly suspected, how would the fourth amend. protect you?

I'm not sure how you all can put quitting MJ up there with the likes of cigs and chew. I smoked MJ for 4 years everyday and one day decided to quit. I never had a single day where I "craved" it or felt like I needed it to survive. Cigs and Chew create a chemical dependency in your body, while MJ is not nearly as serious.

Maybe MJ was the only way for you to escape your life or something you didn't like about your life and now you are struggling with it.

I don't mean to seem disrespectful of your issue with quitting MJ, but I don't think it is remotely close to quitting cigs or chew. It doesn't seem to be as serious as you make out to be, because you would turn to true friends if it was, not some randoms on a message board.

However, if it really is bothering you that much, go see a group, although I find it funny that there are support groups for a non-addictive drug

I had a really good setup. A 30'X30' greenhouse with a concrete floor. It had a 4' square hole in the middle of the floor for the nutrient solution tank. I had 20 10' joints of 6" PVC pipe with 2" holes cut every 18". I had a submersible pump that cycled on/off every three minutes. It was fascinating watching the plants choose (on their own) how much nutrient/water to take up. On very hot days, they would take up mostly water and the strength of the solution would go way up. I then added more water 3-4 times per day. On more mild days, they would take more nutrient than water and the strength of the solution went down. Growing is just as much fun as using under those circumstances.

Suspicion isn't enough under our laws. They needed probable cause. Like a witness or catching me selling it. The greenhouse was plastic sheeting stretched over a pole frame and was translucent. Light could get in but you couldn't see through it. Even aerial photos wouldn't have helped them. I also grew some hydroponic tomatoes that I sold to the grocery stores and all the cops in that small town knew it. The county jail bought the prisoners food at one of the stores.

sweet, right under their noses. thats the poop.

Damn Skip, you've got quite the green thumb.

Yep and the good part is I learned how to do it from a paperback book I bought in a head shop. The authors really knew their shit. BTW, I used metal halide grow lights to get the cuttings to sprout roots through the rockwool blocks. Then, into the PVC tube. Rinse and repeat. Damn these stupid laws. I could get rich. One good story was my ex's brother had a friend who hounded her till she sold him a small bag. He laughed and told her brother that he outfoxed her and now had our seeds. The joke was on him. We grew sensemilla plants and there were no males. Hence, no seeds.

Yeah it is real nice of skip to talk about growing and all that on a thread about quiting.

what about drug dealers?

half O's aren't sold very frequently in my business. an O of some good beasters would be between $240 to $350, depending on your location.

that's schwag costs these days.

that's me

you really think that you have learned something? Skip, i've said it before and i'll say it again, your jokes are humurous but... i really think you're a stupid, sad prick :) It's funny that i could more than likely kick your ass in cyber world as well as real life
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urine in a visine bottle :)

lol

What about people who smoke and golf at the same time?

Go smoke a bowl and play with your pussy-Mr. Macho.

ROFLROFL

Some folks never learn.

disc golf??

Hey Quick, did you ever find your cat ?

thanks, yes i found Salem 6 or 7 days after his missing :) here's a pic:

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f8...r/IM000132.jpg

photobucket keeps anglein my imgs to the left.. i dunno

Congrats, Now keep the damn door shut when you're stoned! :clap:ROFL

Oh hell yeah. :)


Midnight disc golf...

You are correct Mr. Skip..... my point was if someone put the time and money into a hydro setup, then they are going to be growing good stuff. I had a very nice hydro setup back in the day myself. I even cross-bred some plants to create one helluva good strain. Got the original seeds from Amsterdam. Still have some of those seeds actually....

As far as hydro vs. soil.... The soil does not take any THC away from the plant. You can get the exact same quality stuff from soil or from hydro. Hydro systems allow the plant to mature faster, and are generally easier to maintain once they are producing. The THC depends on the strain of plant you use, how well you maintain the nutrient levels, and how well you "cure" it after it's cut from the plant. You have to leave the plant hanging in total darkness for at least 2 days to bring out the full THC levels. When it's in darkness during that time the plant quits making chlorophyll and pumps all the THC out to the beautiful little crystals on the buds..... That's magic right there folks.......

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i bet you could get way higher if you just ground the bones and flesh of all the old hippies into a drink.

Why quit?

actually, SKY vodka flask wrapped in duct tape to keep in heat.

keep it in a heating pad that morning.

then use your belt to keep it in place until you get into the testing bathroom.

just be sure to pour some in the toilet to not arrouse possible suspicion, but it's not like they give a shit.

toughest part is finding the clean piss...damn pot-head friends

lol good call, but last time he got out because of my roommate! he's no longer with us.

lil too much work

don't choose..get a better paying job..

if it's real..75.00 down here.....:D

Hey Quik, your cat has pretty blue eyes...

wow, this will date me big time. i remember 3 finger "dimes" of columbian back in the day. haven't touched the hooch in over 6 yr. Thank God

Good luck. Good for you.

I am a little confused though....I've read a thousand times on this very BB that "MJ is not addictive, whatsoever".

Marijuana is most certainly not addictive. It's habit forming.

Addiction is purely physiological. Your body becomes dependent on nicotine, heroin, or cocaine. If you go without it, your body reacts the same way as if you were to deprive it of food or water.

You can quit marijuana at any time and physically have no side effects whatsoever. However, you can become dependent on it emotionally.

A good example is people who try to quit smoking. Nicotine gum can easily supplant a cigarette and help someone overcome their addiction. However, gum has a reasonably high failure rate because of one big reason - alot of smokers become attached emotionally to the feeling of having a cigarette in their mouths and you'll find them chewing on pens and other such items while trying to quit.

It's the difference between "want" and "need".

When I first started smoking, I bought lids. :D

Fixed your post.

I'm on day 3 of quitting smoking (cigarettes), this is the 4th time I have quit, this one should last