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ROYC75 07-28-2006 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chargeroo
The happiest dudes in the USA right now are the DE's of the Chargers, Broncos, and raiders.

Don't despair though, it could be that Willie just wants to miss out on those 2 a days. It won't be a big surprise if he "changes his mind" in about three weeks.

The Chiefs were destined for a third place finish in the West this year anyway. Look on the bright side, now you could finish behind the raiders and get a really great draft pick!


ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

3rd ? Really ? :rolleyes:

Oh, you meant the Chargers were going to be 3rd, right. This team, had Roaf been healthy was going to win the division and take our chances from there.

With Roaf out, Denver has to be the favorite, we will be right there. The Stuuuupid Chaaargers will falter this year behing a crying River not being able to handle NFL defenses. I'm not worried about Rivers, he has to learn first.

Mecca 07-28-2006 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC
A Charger fan chiming it...who needs a line when you play the Chargers...there were some times where LJ was carrying that whole team on his back for 10 yards.

Talk about complete domination no the ground.

I'm sure he's going to respond "Shawne Merriman blah blah yadda yadda" He apparently is their entire defense.......

|Zach| 07-28-2006 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I'm sure he's going to respond "Shawne Merriman blah blah yadda yadda" He apparently is their entire defense.......

Lets set aside the times where Charger defenders were paying rent on LJ's back for all the time he was lugging them around.

That move on the 15 yard line on his way into the endzone in Arrowhead last year?

Amazing.

TRR 07-28-2006 07:05 PM

I'm not as concerned with Roaf's retirement as most people around here. Obviously KC just lost one of the best O Lineman in the game. However, if he doesn't have it in him to come back for another season, I don't want the guy playing. To be honest, I thought Roaf had a pretty sub-par year last season.

It's time for the young guys to step up. Jordan Black, Will Svitek, Kevin Sampson, whoever...We all knew Big Willie Roaf couldn't play forever.

Mecca 07-28-2006 07:07 PM

I just wish had made this decision earlier, drafting Eric Winston in the 2nd would have looked alot better than Bernard Pollard right now.

tk13 07-28-2006 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR
To be honest, I thought Roaf had a pretty sub-par year last season.

Are you sure you don't mean Shields? Will had kind of a slow start... but when Willie was in the lineup we were a totally dominant offense. The only two games where the Priest/LJ rotation actually worked were the two he started early in the year.

TRR 07-28-2006 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
Are you sure you don't mean Shields? Will had kind of a slow start... but when Willie was in the lineup we were a totally dominant offense. The only two games where the Priest/LJ rotation actually worked were the two he started early in the year.


Both had sub-par years in my opinion. I don't think Roaf was that effective at getting out in open space as in years past. I thought both Roaf and Shields were pretty inconsistent in their play last season. You'd get the Roaf of old in one game, and the old Roaf in another.

The loss of Roaf is big, but definitely not as big as the loss of an LJ, Green, Gonzalez, Surtain, or Law would be.

htismaqe 07-28-2006 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca
I just wish had made this decision earlier, drafting Eric Winston in the 2nd would have looked alot better than Bernard Pollard right now.

I'd rather have Pollard at this point. Honestly.

htismaqe 07-28-2006 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
You can't run it 60 times a game. I mean, I agree, we should be one of the top running teams.

The catch to that is, we already were. We don't have to change a thing and we'll be one of the top teams in rushing attempts. Everybody acts like we were some high flying Mike Martz offense that abandoned the run.

I'm not advocating running it 60 times a game. I'm advocating running the ball at better times, like when the Buffalo d-line is teeing off on Green.

For everyone that's worried about Martyball - taking the ball out of LJ's hands and throwing pass after pass in the 3rd quarter after Larry turned out 100+ yards in the 1st half is the DEFINITION of Martyball.

htismaqe 07-28-2006 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC
This whole marty ball thing is so blown out of proportion...

Trent Green - Elvis Grbac
Larry Johnson - Greg Hill

Tell me they can't execute better...

:thumb:

tk13 07-28-2006 08:17 PM

I understand what you're saying. That was about the only game where we really mucked it up though I think... and even then LJ had 150 some odd yards didn't he. I don't know, I'm just not sure how much more we can really run the football... we were already running it a ton at the end of the year. Especially since we're not sure we have a capable backup yet.

htismaqe 07-28-2006 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler
I agree but I don't think this D is on that kind of level do you?

Do you honestly think they could pitch a shutout if they had to?

I think they can be. They were 16th in points allowed and if they shave a FG off of that per game, they're easily in the top 10.

htismaqe 07-28-2006 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13
I understand what you're saying. That was about the only game where we really mucked it up though I think... and even then LJ had 150 some odd yards didn't he. I don't know, I'm just not sure how much more we can really run the football... we were already running it a ton at the end of the year. Especially since we're not sure we have a capable backup yet.

Honestly, what we were doing the last 7 or so games of last season is PRECISELY what I'm advocating.

tk13 07-28-2006 08:24 PM

Yeah, I'm interested in seeing how we handle the balance of the running game. Hopefully one of the backups step up and is able to handle getting a few carries a game. As much as Edwards and Solari seem to want to run I'm afraid we're going to run LJ 30 times a game.


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