well Mecca gets it...don't know if that's a good thing or not...but at least we all know he isn't a Chiefs homer...which is 95% of the reason no one else gets it.

Anyone who watches alot of games can see that Green even in his very best years was holding the ball longer than just about every other QB. When the line is great you can get away with it.....he can't get away with it anymore but still does it anyway.

I honestly thought before this year started he'd get ear holed by a blindside rusher when holding the ball to long. Hasn't happened yet....

So if we are Chiefs homer's what does that make you? a Huard Homer?

BTW, I wasnt impressed with Trents preformance agianst Baltimore, just like I wasnt impressed with Huards preformance agianst Miami.


Also, After reading another thread you where talking in, referring to fat guys and wieners, pants down and screaming..


Please dont refer to me as cock, you are kind of scaring me and others on this board.

Thank,

Very True, I was screaming at the TV last sunday. He was holding the ball way to long agianst one of the NFL's best defense.. Not smart, not smart at all....

It really doesnt matter anyway. We have Herm. Problem solved...

sounds a lot like the Bledsoe argument of 2001. If he only had the line.
But when the reality is you dont have the line, you have to assess whose tools give your team a better chance with that personnel. I think Huard gives the Chiefs a better chance with this offensive line because his game is based more on decision making and being able to use the short passing game.

Both Green and Huard would be better if the play calling didn't suck.

To ignore that is missing the entire problem.

some weeks I'm impressed with the playcalling, some weeks I'm not.

Watch Trent Green tonight......general rule is the ball should be out of your hand within 5 seconds. With the Chiefs line 3-4 would be better watch how many times he holds onto it longer than that compared to other QB's.

Yes the playcalling sucks but Green seems to be completely unaware that he is no longer behind a great line.

The premise of the argument is that Trent holds the ball too long, and that he can't adjust to an offense that asks him to get rid of the ball quicker.

If you are right, that he can't adapt, then I would agree that making the switch was a mistake, given the O-Line issues.

However, I believe that Hermie and Solari changed the plan rather than sticking to what had worked with Huard, rather than asking Green to adapt to a simpler version of the offense.

To me the responsibility lies squarely on the coaching.

If you admit the play calling sucks I don't understand how you can come down on Green. He's standing there for 5 seconds because his OC or that over rated HC of his is putting him in a no win situation. The OL would look better if the play calling wasn't so predictable.

Almost anybody can be a DC when the Chiefs start the game by running Johnson on the first two plays.

F'ing stupid. We used the pass to open up the running game for Holmes. Taking a top 5 offense and making them predictable is inexcusable.

Edwards is a young Marty. Hopefully it won't take him 17 years to figure out what Marty has.

It won't. After he flames out here, no one will be dumb enough to hire him again.

Well it seems like our games go one of two ways, either we are in a defensive type game where we protect more, run more, and make shorter passes to build longer drives - (Like the Denver games, and Oakland) Or we open our offense up and throw the ball more. I think aside from trents performance in Baltimore, he is a better Quarterback for our full offense, Where Huard is better at managing the game from a conservative standpoint. He takes fewer chances, and relies on his backs and utility recievers to make plays, where trent takes more shots at the secondary. Huard is the better fit for this team with our current line problems, and lack of a true no 1 reciever, but Trent is better when we can field our full offense, with an attack type gameplan.

Being critical of his coaching is one thing. Making fun of his religion is being a lowlife.

Trent Green WAS a good quarterback. Trent Green HAD great numbers the last couple of years. The door has closed on his career, he is too stubborn to admit it. Sometimes when you lose it, it goes immediately. Trent has been a great quarterback for this team, but he needs to do what is best for the team and hang 'em up. I don't know if Huard is the answer or if Croyle is the answer, but Trent is definately not the answer. Hell i'd sell the farm just to get the rights to Brady Quinn and see what happens but we almost need a complete rebuild at this point. Our offense can't score and our defense cant stop anyone.

Yet, when I said this two months ago...I was THE idiot. Gotcha!

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someone must have told him (probably priest) that he gets paid whether he suits up or not. I dont look for him in there any time soon...if ever. he will milk this for as long as he can, or until the chiefs get a better left tackle. <HR SIZE=1>

oh, well, you're dumb
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That was exactly what you said huh?

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Location: Normal, IL Green brings a lot more to the table than Huard does. A LOT MORE.

I like Huard, I really do...but his batted balls are getting ridiculous...and Green is just simply better in this offense. There is a reason Huard is a backup.
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selective memory?

How do we go from the #1 O the last few years to #17 or worse under herm, didnt he say why mess with something if it isnt broke. Well he broke it....................




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Now let me see , If my memory serves me tonight. Matt Hasselbeck was the bacup to Favre in Green Bay . Holmgren leaves for Seattle and takes Matt with him. Now Matt is the starting QB at Seattle . You see Huard can't become any kind of great QB when you don't play him , Green has been goin down fookin hill for the last 2 years , I bet you thought it was just fookin dandy when Elvis G. replaced Ghannon huh .
just some info from the past :
The Kansas City Chiefs signed Gannon to a free-agent deal in the spring of 1995. For two years, the "journeyman" quarterback received limited action in his backup role.

That scenario changed in 1997, when Gannon earned nine starts and won six of them, including a five-game winning streak that enabled the Chiefs to claim an AFC West title.

He picked up 10 more starts in '98, passing for a then-career best 2,305 yards.

"I played quite a bit in my last two years in Kansas City, and finally catapulted myself into a position where teams were considering me as a starter," he recalled.

One person in particular was Raiders head coach John Gruden. Gruden, the Eagles' offensive coordinator from 1995 to 1997, was the only coach to give Gannon a chance to start full time in the NFL.

Inked by Oakland in 1999, Gannon tied hall-of-famer Ken Stabler for the team record for completions in a season (304) and threw for a career-best 3,840 yards.

It might be deja vu regarding Huard , I bet the raiders would take him in a minute , Peterson's a dumbass ................

wrong, Hootie. When we said this just this afternoon, we were idiots.

P.S. you are still THE idiot. case closed.

Age....loss of a few players, and now having no gamebreakers especially at WR is really showing up.

Nope supported Gannon.... Green is 5 times the QB Grbac was. Gannons should of continued to start.

Tell you what. Herm leaves and takes Huard with him in a couple of weeks then we will all be happy and Hootie will follow them to another message board.

How is that?

how bout Carl and Herm leave , I'm tired of Carl's 5 year plan , now in the 17th year lol.

18th year.

Hasselbeck was only in his third season when Holmgren went to Seattle.

oh, im sorry, did i bump this thread by accident? My apologies. I wouldnt want anyone to think it was a mistake to go back to Pro Bowl QB Trent Green. Nothing of the kind. Not me. Would never do it or imply such a ridiculous thing.

Did you folks see that great touchdown pass Trent threw tonight? Huard would have been sacked.

This team was a contender with Huard taking snaps under center.

You're just a Hootie wannabe.

agreed 100%

I still don't think there's any reason to feel Huard would've done any better. He went 2-3 in road games, and he didn't look good against good defenses on the road, which were the three losses. In those games, he was 48-93 passing, that's 51.6%, 0 TD, 1 INT. Then he beat Arizona on the road, whoopie, and he won in St. Louis... and in that game, 11 of the first 12 offensive plays were runs and he ended up with 15 pass attempts. He tore it up at home, but that's how we usually play.

There you go again, assuming the un-assumable. (If that's a word, or a term)

Let's not kid ourselves, Tk13. You are a very good poster, and I know that...and you are well informed...but Huard would've gotten this team to the playoffs, and I think we both know that.

Hindsight 20/20: Was it a mistake to bench Huard?
 

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