I can't even figure out what I'm gonna do, how should I know what you should do?

Did you save any of the $500 to invest or did you blow it all on beer?

Pick up the phone and call me tomorrow ......... Do you still have my # ?

I'm very curious why you are reluctant to do construction. Was it difficulty in collecting your fee? Was it working for people who don't really know what they are asking you to do? Was it too physically demanding?

Ok, I know you didn't ask me but I can't see any reason you wouldn't move to Cabo. Maybe I don't understand the importance of where the family lives. :shrug: I'm guessing any close family members would make special effort to visit you in Cabo but I could be wrong there.
In any case, if you don't like it you could always move back.

Yes, yes, no. I don't market well either. I'm a small company and I want the high end client. I rarely get them. I think construction was something I fell back on when I was in a bad spot. I thought it was temporary until I found out I had a knack for it. I've had so many disappointments in the past couple years that we've decided that maybe I should try something different, with more upside.

It's not like I'm getting rid of my equipment. I can always fall back on it again if need be.

Why don't you try flipping houses?

That way you decide the designs and materials and your fee is pretty much guaranteed (assuming you buy well).

Flipping isn't quite as easy as it looks on TV. Especially not in the midwest. It's very, very competitive.

Nothing is as easy as it appears on television. That doesn't mean that it isn't possible or that you shouldn't try it. Or maybe you have tried it. :shrug:

Perhaps you could become a real estate agent?

Phobia,
Move futher south and set up a puppy mill(a nice one) that breeds those little ****ing lap dogs. Have you seen the price they get for those little furballs?

I am almost 100% certain that is what I wll do..but..it's always good to hear feedback from different people on what they think, in my opinion.
And I appreciate your opinion..

I finally saw your picture in a link on here..I pictured you being much older for some odd reason...lol.. ;)

hold them and rent section8. some zip codes guarantee $1300/month+

Now that's something I've STRONGLY considered.

You already sold out for the best thing you had going in your life.......there is no where else to go but up, no?

Dude, this crap is a hobby. The best thing I have going is my family. Everything else is gravy.

Who are you to talk?

No worries, GoodDay will follow up with an IM conversation with me trying to be buddy buddy. And someone said I was passive aggressive.

He lets people get under his skin as much as I have ever seen doing this message board thing. It is always personal with him....he tries too hard.

Maybe he could give you some self-defense tips. That way you wouldn't be such a complete gutless puss.

I kind of enjoy it. Someone has to piss you off...really bother you to take some of the actions he takes on a consistent basis. He can't deal.

Yeah, he hit me with another one of his out-of-the-blue rep bombs last night. Apparently, he just can't quit me. :D

Bob Dole is not trying to defend him, but you do have a real purdy mouth.

There's just really no good way to respond to this.....

I think retiring as a gay fisherman on the shores of mexico is a wonderful retirement plan, Bill.

Show him how pretty the top of your head is.

get a pilot license and charter
passion flights over the Mile High city
the number of people who would like to **** over Denver
is a untapped goldmine

Why is being gay always on your mind Clayton??

Are you gay??I mean..nobody here has ever seen you with a woman..right??

Has anyone ever seen YOU with a woman?

Yes..

BULLSHIT! I haven't seen any pics that would verify this.

Learn how to fly a single engine airplane about 30 feet off the ocean's surface and make a couple cocaine runs from Colombia to to Florida.

If you live through the a year and don't wind up in jail you'll be able to reitre before 40.

Yeah, I was going to say real estate as well. I also might try to invest in some properties as rentals. It's not going to have immediate returns, but 20 years down the road you'll have your retirement set up for you.

I completely understand the problem with construction. The end game is pretty grim. Neither of my brothers have any sort of retirement package set up at all. One of them is in the same boat as you: knows he can't be doing it until he's 60 and looking for something else. The other one is oblivious and will work himself into the grave.

More than a little, I was like WTF?? ROFL

Here's my take on the real estate related careers...

I could be wrong, but IMHO there's been a bit of a housing bubble lately due to low rates, and everybody plus their cousin's weasel got in on mortgage refinancing. Bottom line? It's time for a correction and slow down with quite a few foreclosures due to people overspending on variable rates and other creative deals they couldn't really afford. In other words, now may not be the best time to get into this market segment. I know the KC market is sucking ass right now - a buddy of mine just decided to move back there to go back to school and downsize. They got a place for $250k off of 58th and Wornall that sold for $280k two years ago.

However, if you had capital now might be a good time to pick up property cheap. Get in on the rental game as someone else suggested. It's a long term play unfortunately and like I said either requires some capital, access to someone with capital, or risky financing. However, if you want to you could start at the bottom - buying places that are falling apart, fire damaged, etc. in not so good neighborhoods and turning them into section 8 rentals.

Haven't you seen the "Making Money" infomercial? Ya know, the one with the hawt chick with her cleavage and bouncing breasts. I ran across that one a couple of weeks ago and it sounds simple. Checks just magically show up in your mailbox and they give out $5000 bonus checks every month. That's the most I got out of the deal because I was distracted by the above-mentioned hottie. Sounds like a sound career plan to me. So, what's the problem here?

Raiders WR.
well, you don't really have to do much and get big money.

Very well..you simpleton
That arm to my right belongs to a female..and...unlike you..my shoulders are wider than my waist.

That won't hold up in court.

Now..lets see a picture of you with a girl in a shirt without sleeves..heh..

Or..you could always STFU

I see no girl. The defense rests. Enjoy your gay sailing buddies.

PROOF!!!

http://img329.imageshack.us/img329/3962/gaybillnj8.jpg

being a yank me fan
does not help your case

Phobia, if you're good at fixing things up, you could combine a couple of el borracho's ideas and get into real estate in general:

1) Become an agent
2) Buy properties and fix them up for resale
3) Buy properties and rent them because you can do your own maintenance

edit: Doh! Way late. Sorry about repost.

Phobia...

You and I can form an unstoppable duo, we'll call ourselves 'The Incredible Men', and we'll tag team fat bitches and shit like that...

Game?

What ever happened with your idea of flipping or buying remodeling & renting? I told you I can get you set up with financing and such.

Like KC Jones... I wouldn't become a real estate agent. Market is horrible. Everyone & their mother are real estate agents now because of the last 5 years. Houses are staying on the market longer than forever.

Anyhow... Building wealth through real estate is rule #1 in the build net worth handbook.

My get rich quick scheme would be to open up the old Mill Creek building down in Westport and call it Tailgaters. Have BBQ & make it a sports bar with a tailgating theme. LCD's everywhere. Even in every booth. Just think... NCAA's BUSY. Royals games... Maybe busy. NFL season (you'll have Sunday Ticket (Extremely busy). SUperbowl & Final Four (EXTREMELY/VERY busy) [end dreams].

Pay local radio stations to broadcast out of there for advertisement.

I've never talked to you on IM in my life.

As for my post, I could have guessed who the first two people would be to respond.

Dance monkeys, dance!

That's a shitty job.

I haven't read the replys, but have you thought about maybe sending your resume to 810 or 610 or trying to get ahold of them somehow? Wouldn't hurt.

I hear the guys at intersections holding those "Will Work for Food" signs do pretty good. It might be a little hard for you to post from "work" though.



I saw one in OK City at an intersection with a work-for-food sign and not even a half a block down was a guy sitting next to the road with a sign on his truck saying "Workers Needed!"

This photoshop took GC only 25 minutes to produce. Just immagine what this sick freak can do with a whole day.

Advertising creative director would get you to that salary. :thumb:

I'd be good at that. I'm an idea guy.

Did you get the email I sent you a couple weeks ago about an idea I had?

What are they gonna do with an internet journalist hack?

Yeah, all the stereotypes are right. :rolleyes: My guys work 5 day weeks and MOST have scruples. I tend to hire men with principles. And yes there CAN be good money in it.