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stevieray 01-30-2007 08:22 AM

I wonder if he was making threads advocating homosexuality, if the most ardent detractors of these threads would feel the same, or just call anyone who opposes them homophobes.

acesn8s 01-30-2007 08:24 AM

Why can't Believer be warned of his actions and if he continues then suspend him for a month, a second offense, then 6 months? Then banning if it continues?
Plenty of warning and swift strong action that should apply to all.

greg63 01-30-2007 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat
One thread every two days isn't ban-worthy, IMO. Close all of the parody threads & threads complaining about it.

His threads aren't filling the board... it's all those freakin' comedians...

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray
I wonder if he was making threads advocating homosexuality, if the most ardent detractors of these threads would feel the same, or just call anyone who opposes them homophobes.


Good points.

RJ 01-30-2007 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg63
No, simply put him on "ignore". Chiefsplanet prides itself on being a sort of anything goes BB, and I'd hate to see the Planet turn into a board that endorses censorship based solely on an unpopular point of view.


I must admit to having forgotten the Ignore feature. It's been years since I thought anyone was worthy of ignoring. I can't actually remember the last one.

Iowanian 01-30-2007 08:28 AM

He hasn't done anything other than be annoying.

He hasn't threatend anyone. He hasn't posted pics of men with a louisville slugger in their anus.

He's overzealous and annoying, but thats not illegal here. It would be nice if he'd choose to cut down on the threads, at least in number.

Bvr is not helping his cause here....its not the message, its the delivery that I find offputting, even as another religious person.

Its not unlike having some Mormons outside my door shouting at me all day after I've politely said "no thank you, I'm good here".....eventually, they're going to catch some wrath.

kepp 01-30-2007 08:28 AM

I voted "NO"...if I allow this, what next? Pretty soon you won't let me view my online Bible :p

For the record, I am a Christian/believer and I *do* believe in proselitizing. IMO, however, 99% of proselitizing is done by setting an example with the way you live...not by semi-anonymously telling people that they are sinners. With that said, there have been times where I have asked people "out of the blue" to study the Bible or come to church, but it is by far the least effective method. So I can't fault Believer for his effort, however misguided some may believe it is.

...and that's all I gotta say 'bout that.

greg63 01-30-2007 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RJ
I voted for banning because it's the best of only 2 options. I believe a better course would be a group shunning.


That can be accomplished by all those who are upset with him simply placing him on ignore. I'm convinced that people don't do this because the they themselves want to fuel the fire.

crazycoffey 01-30-2007 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ
I voted for banning because it's the best of only 2 options. I believe a better course would be a group shunning.



While I'm technically in line with Stevie and Greg, I have to say, the group shunning sounded funny.


Group: "YEAH!!!!! Let's turn him into an Ostrich!"


























You know, ostracize him..... Ok, ok I need more coffee.

greg63 01-30-2007 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RJ
I must admit to having forgotten the Ignore feature. It's been years since I thought anyone was worthy of ignoring. I can't actually remember the last one.

Well, there ya go. :D

greg63 01-30-2007 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
He hasn't done anything other than be annoying.

He hasn't threatend anyone. He hasn't posted pics of men with a louisville slugger in their anus.

He's overzealous and annoying, but thats not illegal here. It would be nice if he'd choose to cut down on the threads, at least in number.

Bvr is not helping his cause here....its not the message, its the delivery that I find offputting, even as another religious person.

Its not unlike having some Mormons outside my door shouting at me all day after I've politely said "no thank you, I'm good here".....eventually, they're going to catch some wrath.

:clap: :clap: :clap:

Good post!

acesn8s 01-30-2007 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian
He hasn't done anything other than be annoying.

He hasn't threatend anyone. He hasn't posted pics of men with a louisville slugger in their anus.

He's overzealous and annoying, but thats not illegal here. It would be nice if he'd choose to cut down on the threads, at least in number.

Bvr is not helping his cause here....its not the message, its the delivery that I find offputting, even as another religious person.

Its not unlike having some Mormons outside my door shouting at me all day after I've politely said "no thank you, I'm good here".....eventually, they're going to catch some wrath.

It's the reposting of the same thread. Was the last thread not good enough? Go spam Yahoo! with that crap and get a larger audience. What would happen if he were a Broncos fan continuing to post threads about how great Elway was? What ever happens to Believer should happen to others that do the same annoying crap.

DaFace 01-30-2007 08:35 AM

I voted yes, though I think banning is a bit strong of a punishment. I'd definitely vote yes if asked if his thread-making capabilities should be revoked.

siberian khatru 01-30-2007 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace
I voted yes, though I think banning is a bit strong of a punishment. I'd definitely vote yes if asked if his thread-making capabilities should be revoked.

Same here.

greg63 01-30-2007 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acesn8s
It's the reposting of the same thread. Was the last thread not good enough? Go spam Yahoo! with that crap and get a larger audience. What would happen if he were a Broncos fan continuing to post threads about how great Elway was? What ever happens to Believer should happen to others that do the same annoying crap.


Ignore him; much like you're doing me right now. :D


















ingoring I mean.

Groves 01-30-2007 08:37 AM

Exhibit A: Believer hasn't shown himself to be able to think outside of black and white terms.

Exhibit B: Believer hasn't (to my knowledge) even conceded that he's been a jerk or inappropriate in any way at all.


I think we've all known someone who can't "take the hint". Lump that in with A & B and you've got a recipe for someone who isn't listening to our (reasonable and) increasingly specific requests for him to change his method.

End Result: Words aren't getting through, time to utilize some technological tools. Give him 2 posts per day, and he can reply or start whatever he wants. Do we have that feature?

keg in kc 01-30-2007 08:39 AM

He or she is a troll (and probably a regular in a halloween mask) and should be treated as such. It has nothing to do with religion.

crazycoffey 01-30-2007 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groves
Exhibit A: Believer hasn't shown himself to be able to think outside of black and white terms.


man, uncool to bring race into this.





JK:p

greg63 01-30-2007 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Groves
Exhibit A: Believer hasn't shown himself to be able to think outside of black and white terms.

Exhibit B: Believer hasn't (to my knowledge) even conceded that he's been a jerk or inappropriate in any way at all.


I think we've all known someone who can't "take the hint". Lump that in with A & B and you've got a recipe for someone who isn't listening to our (reasonable and) increasingly specific requests for him to change his method.

End Result: Words aren't getting through, time to utilize some technological tools. Give him 2 posts per day, and he can reply or start whatever he wants. Do we have that feature?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=94
Ahem, speaking of technological tools.

Bugeater 01-30-2007 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by acesn8s
It's the reposting of the same thread. Was the last thread not good enough?

That, along with the fact he was deceptive with one of his thread titles, is why I feel he should lose his thread starting privileges. Let him have his one thread for his preaching, he can bump it when he wants and those who give a crap can read it.

crazycoffey 01-30-2007 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg63
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...1&postcount=94
Ahem, speaking of technological tools.


:)

greg63 01-30-2007 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazycoffey
:)

I laughed out loud at your sig! :)

crazycoffey 01-30-2007 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg63
I laughed out loud at your sig! :)


give the credit to rainman, he said it. I laughed out loud to, so I thought I would share it with everyone, at least for the time being that the religion topic is still so strong.

Groves 01-30-2007 09:01 AM

I've got it, we need the "partial ignore" button. The full on ignore button seems the same as banning to me.

We just want things to tone down in frequency and fervor, and tone up in awareness and common senseness....it's like adjusting the "suck" button on a sound board. Do we have THAT capability?

http://www.commodore.ca/misc/jokes/suck_button.jpg

htismaqe 01-30-2007 09:06 AM

I voted no only because I'm considering revoking thread starting privileges as a "first step".


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