Herm Edwards was not going to have his contract extended by the Jets...whether you want to call that a firing or not....?

Regardless, I thought the media and everyone was saying wasnt going to be coaching at NYJ the next year, then Carl comes in on his White Stud Horse and rescues theSavior from futher embarrasment..

But maybe I was wrong?

AAAARRRRRGGGGH!

Peterson wants to win a championship.

Peterson is not just concerned with the bottom line/butts in seats, etc.

Peterson is an average GM who has made some very good decisions and some very bad decisions. He made great decisions in the early '90's. He made some horrible decisions in the late '90's. It's too early to say how he's done in the past five years.

Please, the media keeps spouting this mantra about Peterson because they personally and professionally have problems with him. He is at times rude and aggressive, and seems to consider the media to be a pain in his arse.

He has taken personal shots at Kietzman, Harry, and many others who routinely and vociferously complain about him and claim he only cares about the bottom line.

Any time I hear anyone on this board saying that Peterson doesn't care about what happens on the field I assume that the poster is an 810 employee or is a mindless drone of an 810 employee.

And you tell others here that they are drinking kool-aid?? I think you might still have your head plunged into that giant vat of green kool-aid that the Jets trolls tried to drag on to the planet....

He wasn't going to coach the next year because everyone knew KC wanted him and he wanted out of NY. The Chiefs are very lucky tampering charges were never filed.

In corporate world Herm was not being fired, he was part of a right sizing.

He did everything in 1 year that the previous worker did in his whole tenure.

Seems like a smart company would keep him on.

petegz28, I really like your post. I haven't read all the replies, but there may be some giving you crap about it...

Don't worry, you're just 30 days ahead of most peole's thinking :)
I really believe that the next two years can be exciting for us. I also believe that Herm is a good coach. What I know is that only time will tell.

Luz
willing to give the time and enjoy the journey...

Luz
:clap:

Totally agree... it's always about the talent lost on offense, but not the talent & experience gained on defense.


Either way, it's mediocrity, and I agree that the schedule made us look better than we were. We won 7 of 9 because of who we played, and the conservative/defensive style will keep us in just about every game.

Until someone, anyone, wins a playoff game...

I look at it a little differently as far as making the playoffs. If 9-7 is what it takes to get it we did it and they didn't.
If our game was the last one of the day on Sunday we would not of been "relying" on other teams to lose. We would of be "relying" on ourselves to win.
Bottum line we did what it took and all of the other teams didn't do what it took.

Yeah and don't ever try because you might fail. :rolleyes:

Newsflash! Damon Huard had 11 TD's and 1 INT and played great,and your boy Hermy fired his coach Terry Shea..what does that tell you?

LMAO

So now it's because of Terry Shea that Huard played well? Um, okay. Then it's also Terry Shea's fault that Trent played so badly.

I think his point is that Huard played at a much higher level than anyone could have expected, and that Shea should be given credit for that.

Green never returned to form as a result of the concussion.

He's a QB coach, not a doctor, Jim.

Hermy is not my boy.... and by your logic Trent Green should have done just as well as Huard when he came back from injury... he didn't...

Trent played fine against the Browns, though. And if he had gotten a few other soft defenses to play after he came back, he probably would have put up similar numbers. But his performance there just reinforced the same pattern we saw all season. Let's not forget that as well as Huard did against the likes of the 49'ers and the Rams, he wasn't any better against the Steelers or Dolphins than Trent was against the Ravens or Jags.

If anyone wants to line up and heap praise on Terry Shea for the games where Huard played well... and he deserves credit, though certainly not all of it... then they also need to blame him for the games where the QB play struggled. And there were more games featuring the latter last season, from both QBs.

This is for sure: There were no "funny plays" this past season, and there will be none this coming season.

The only problem I have with Herm is that he's just like George Allen, but he doesn't have the hogs. You can't establish the run before passing, without a strong line.

Throwing on 1st down was a rarity. The quick slant is a very powerful weapon, and it was severely underused when Green was on the field. Glad LJ has a record, but I'm sure he'd rather have a ring.

He certainly shouldn't have been fired..that makes no sense.

Tell me why Shea was fired?is that an easier question? ROFL

Well by your logic Herm should fire himself also..Green was coming back from a head injury..

Exactly!

Yeah, that's a fairly easy one.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2730008

Why did he keep him on to begin with?
He should have known that in January of last year,right?

Good question, Mr. Vos. I'm pretty certain that Shea probably said something along the lines of, "Hey Herm, maybe we should consider running play action on first down once in a while?"

At which point, Herm had two options: Think or Fire.

FAX

Possibly to keep a little bit of continuity with the offense. I'd be willing to guess that if Herm fired EVERY offensive coach on his second day last year, this team would have went 1-15.

Couldn't agree more. What people seem to forget when saying all Peterson cares about is a full stadium, is the he has an ego the size of Nebraska. So of course he wants a Super Bowl, probably more than most fans. What else would feed said ego.

How often does a coach take his team to the playoffs in his first season and get fired at the end of the year?? That's not to say he didn't screw up a lot, but he still overcame adversity and got the team in the playoffs. To me that deserves another year to draft and improve.

As far as Shea is concerned.... shouldn't Shea have been the one to realize Green wasn't recovered and shouldn't have been starting? He was the QB coach and had more contact than anybody with Green and Huard. Wouldn't it have made sense that Shea should have been the one to tell Herm that Green wasn't ready? Maybe his lack of action was a contributing factor? That's just a guess...

Shea shoud have been the one to tell Herm to run some plays where the OL could actually protect his QB's for more than 2 seconds. But, that was obvious to everybody; except Herm and Solari.

Stan to his dog - "don't be gay."
Shea to the O-Line - "don't suck."

Dude, he came in with everyone on earth saying "this offense is a juggernaut, don't eff it up, they're a veteran unit that knows what they're doing, concentrate on fixing the D." So he kept the O personnel in place and the personnel subsequently took a mass field trip to the AARP.
You can't simultaneously tell him to keep his mitts off the 'can't miss' O, and blame him for said O going to shit after the fact.