The crazy thing is, I agree with a lot of what he said. I just didn't agree with him airing it out in public.

Not only that, he did it with a guy that seems to hate the team, and Carl Peterson. So it was premeditated without question IMO.

He basically tore down, everything he had accomplished, in those previous years of doing and saying the right things.

And for those that say the Chiefs owe him something, after reflecting on that interview, I no longer think they do.

He called all the cheerleaders nappy headed ho's and said 90 % of the fans were dumb assed rednecks who drive camaro's, listen to Skynryd, and buy their clothes at Wal'Mart.

I have NO problem with Green wanting to play somewhere else.

I have NO problem with Green not wanting to play for Herm.

I have NO problem with Green not wanting to be part of a conservative offense that won't showcase him near as much.

I have NO problem with Green making "tough" comments in an effort to spur a trade.

I actually had ZERO problem with Trent Green up to the point where he said "the reason the Chiefs are going young is because the young players are naive".

He also said that LJ was a punk ass wanksta.

It could be the new offensive system sucks. Absolutely.

Or it could be that Green is used to being the center of attention of coach that clearly cared about proving to the world he was an offensive genious, everything else be damned.

Go back and listen to the interview. Notice that Green didn't ONCE mention WINNING. But he made it clear that he didn't understand why the offense had to change because the offense was "setting records and putting up huge stats".

Like who?

ROFL

I must have missed that. I remember KK bringing up them trying to trade LJ though. Jared Allen told Carlotta LJ was a punk and everyone knows it. I don't have a hard time believing it. Hopefully we can control it enough that it doesn't cause too many problems. But Athan tells me everything will be OK once the blockbuster trade happens.

I know for a fact that when Herm came in, he asked Trent if he minded that they would be changing the offense. Trent told him, "I don't care, as long as we're winning." He understands why the offense changed. He doesn't understand why the playcalling became borderline idiotic, like in the playoff game.

Um...the words came out of TRENT GREEN'S OWN MOUTH.

and bingo was his name o.

The playcalling became borderline idiotic because the coaching staff panicked.

That's what happens when nobody, not even your HoF tight end, can catch the ball.

If by "words" you mean your allegation that he threw younger team members under the bus I have yet to see where that is anything more than your interpretation of what was said.
I'm not saying you are wrong, I'm saying I haven't seen anything that couldn't be interpreted different ways.

And when passes are at the feet or behind recievers when your qb is flustered or hurried and his mechanics are not there. Which he has a history of.

Just continuing your thought ( i think ) of everyone taking the blame, not just the coaches.

Green used to be good at that, somewhat.

http://www.810whb.com/podcast.asp

Best way is to listen to the interview. Scroll down to between the lines.

He did actually say it, It pretty much went like this: that the young guys are naieve and don't know any better than to do what the team wants etc.

He didn't use the word naive. He is also 100% correct in what he said.

I was talking about the whole idea that the competition is being weighted towards Brodie. The "80%" comment came directly from Green.

The words were:

"[The Chiefs said] 'And now we want you back and now you can compete.' And that's never really changed from the beginning. They always said it was gonna be a competition. It's just, in my mind, I guess being in the league long enough, I think it's a weighted competition. I do know that Herm has been very vocal about wanting to get younger at the QB position and the amount of reps that Brodie's gonna get is gonna be substantially weighted. I think the number will be somewhere around 80%..."

As for the comment I took issue with he said that the young guys will "just roll with it", because they "don't know any better" after going on about Eric Hicks got a raw deal.

See my post #81. The fact that he aired this out in public is my issue. I don't dispute a lot of what he said. In fact, this whole drama, is starting to sway me against a lot of things I have defended on this board. I could have been wrong all along in the way I perceived some things.

What word did he use? It was certainly used in the context, that I associated to mean naive.

It doesn't matter if he's right or not.

Team leaders, as he professes to be, don't make such comments about teammates.

Especially in a public forum. I would have bet a lot of money he would have never said something like that. Elvis Grbac anyone?

1) I think the whole "naieve" comment is mountains out of molehills. Perhaps he mispoke. Perhaps he used the wrong word. As I sort of pointed out earlier, it's not like he said these guys suck and can't play. It's not like he said they're a bunch of assholes. He said, basically, that they have a different perspective because they're younger. As one gets older in the league, perspective changes.

2) I don't think that Trent sees himself as a "team leader" any longer, if the team you're referring to is the Chiefs.

"they don't know any better" is a putdown of the players, no matter how you slice it. It is also very undermining to the team chemistry, players and coaches.
I have a very hard time putting any kind of positive spin on what he said.

No, he said they don't know any better.

So it's OK for Trent to change the way he views himself, but it's not OK for the fans to view him differently?

That can be read as, "I don't blame them, I was the same way back then." To me, he's saying that Carl's a prick, and eventually they'll all find that out. Don't believe the BS that you're fed. He did, and it backfired on him.

I have zero problem with people saying, "I no longer feel that Trent's the leader of the Chiefs." What I have a problem with is people acting like he's lacking leadership quality or that he was never a leader of the team. People act like, since he said this, they've been wrong all along and Trent's really a horrible person and a cancer to the Chiefs. I can't tell you how many times on these threads I've read, "I used to like Trent Green..." or "I used to think Trent was a leader..." Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but I just don't see the statements Trent made being antithetical to being a leader.

It took that comment more as they don't know the ropes yet or something more like that not insulting at all.

example: if you don't know where something is at in a building you will walk and wander around until you find it. You would do this because you didn't know any better.

Even if it CAN be read that way, it's still denigrating to the existing players on this team. There's no way to spin this that makes it not a derogatory comment.

Pretty simply, I thought Trent was above this kinda stuff. Maybe I just had unrealistic expectations.

Of course, that's not even remotely close to what he said.

He said that the Chiefs want to make changes IN PHILOSOPHY that may or may not be dumb.

He went on to say that THAT is the reason they're bringing in younger players - because said younger players won't question what's going on.

Speaking of the Hicks situation................... I just can't believe those Dolphins. Those bastards.

Hanging on to Dante Culpepper like this. He is still rehabing and attending mini camp even though he isn't an air coryell qb and it's pretty obvious he is just a pawn until they get Green.

He doesn't even know who his next team will be. Or where his family will live or his kids will go to school.

Life is so unfair.

Yet he isn't going on local radio blasting the fins. He does get plenty of air time and all he talks about is his what he thinks his skills are and how his knee is getting better. Hell, he doesn't have his agent talking either because he is his own agent.

Plus he owes his current team nothing. His short career there has been less than stellar.

Will someone please tell me who the players who Green talks to that seem to be confused or unsure of what is going on. I think it is safe to assume they are on the offense.

Other than Wiegmann or Samie Parker I can't think of any.

This whole interview came down to a few things.
Carl said A and then did B to him and basicly the same with Hicks. Carl telling them that they were going in a different direction when asked and not doing anything until it is late in FA making it very hard for Hicks to find a job.
If someone had done this to anyone here they would be pissed off too. We all need employment.

Carl ****ed this all up IMO. He shot his mouth off and then found the bullet in his big toe.

I am trying real hard to find some sympathy for youg millionaires like Hicks, and it is just not working.

Carl's biggest mistake was being nice to Green. In any normal situation, a team would get a trade deal done and THEN tell the player to negotiate his contract. Carl, out of reverence for what Trent Green has done here as a player, allowed Green to work with Miami prior to having the trade parameters down.

As for Hicks finding a job, guy like Eric Hicks get jobs after June 1st EVERY YEAR. This idea that it's somehow harder for him to find work now is ridiculous.

He was the Chiefs team leader for the last 6 years. He was the only team leader.

Plus, you are making a mountain out of a molehill. The young guys don't have the experience and haven't gone through coaching changes to see the way things are being handled. Trent's been with several teams and said that on other teams things were handled differently. He agreed that they do not HAVE to run things by him but teams usually give veteran players a certain amount of respect and do run things by them.

It is amusing that KC coaches and players learn everything from the internet. He said he was in the facility for 7 weeks after the season ended. He was rehabbing his ankle. Even though he was in the building every day he was hearing on the internet all the news about a restructure. The team didn't have the decency to come up to him and talk about it until weeks later.

So, Trent is in the facility every day. He isn't given the courtesy of a heads up on changes, which most teams give. He hears about restructuring on the internet weeks before Carl finally speaks with him and broaches the subject. He's told and he's been hearing from Herm that the Chiefs want to get younger and give Croyle every opportunity to be the starter and get the majority of snaps. They want him to be a backup and take a huge paycut. All of that and Green is now the bad guy for wanting a decent chance to start on another team?

Nope.

Not in my mind.

And I've made that perfectly clear SEVERAL times.

ROFL
Nobody was going to trade for him with his current contract.

Stop it with the silly Carl was doing Trent a favor crap. Carl wanted to get a draft pick out of a player they are going to cut.