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Donger 12-01-2007 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Not yet.

But here's the kid's bathroom:
Heh. Good luck with that.

DaneMcCloud 12-01-2007 06:43 PM
oops!

Baby Lee 12-01-2007 06:44 PM
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You can't fool us, that painting is actually

http://www.bluthfamily.com/dimages/p...ut_468x312.jpg

DaneMcCloud 12-01-2007 06:45 PM
I've got plenty of pics but I there's on my wife's computer. That's all I've got of the kid's bath on mine.

Phobia 12-02-2007 10:02 AM
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My best understanding

Texas - Ketchup based brown sugar and chiles for heat, consistency almost like Ragu
Carolina - Mustard and tobasco
KC - Molasses/Tomato based, thicker, smokier with a more sharp heat, consistency more like syrup.
Memphis - Dry rub
I understand the differences in the sauces. I guess I didn't realize Memphis was more of a dry rub city. That probably means my style leans more towards Memphis even though I've lived in Carolina, Texas, and KC. Strange.

Phobia 12-02-2007 10:17 AM
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Okay, that makes sense. When we began remodeling our home four years ago, I wondered how they got the tiles straight. That was until I saw that they were on sheets. But I've seen bad mosaic jobs in spite of them being on sheets (we actually had to have a contractor completely redo a bathroom because it was so freakin' bad. I mean, awful!).

Thanks for the kind words. That bathroom was the toughest bathroom in the house to design. I drew up the plans and picked everything in there, every tile, every accent, every piece of hardware - absolutely everything. It was challenging because I was just hoping that all of the different tiles and designs would work together.

It took the guys about 8 weeks to complete it (it had already been demo'd two years prior) and I was in there every hour to make sure that they were doing it exactly as specified
8 weeks? Heh. That's a good bathroom. When I first got into this business I actually did a little tiny bathroom with similar tile choices to yours except they chose really huge 3' x 1' panels. I vastly underbid the project and little old lady stood there watching me put up each and every tile. It wouldn't have been so bad but she didn't like color variations from tile to tile and she'd start telling me my tiles were crooked before I had even removed my hands from them. Brutal. She wasn't a candidate for natural tiles - she should have saved the $14 per sq ft and bought ceramic.

You did a heckuva job picking those tiles. Your taste leans exactly where my own does. I'm a big sucker for travertine and even moreso slate when people are on a budget.


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(especially the lighting - the contractors we've encountered never want to put enough light in these spaces. I learned my lesson the hard way in my kitchen).

Your work looks great and I wouldn't hesitate to hire you if you weren't 2000 miles away!
Thanks. I love to work for clients like yourself because you know what you want and you're willing to spend the money to get it.

I overlight - it's so much better than the alternative. There's 20+ cans in that basement. I loved and I mean absolutely loved every choice in your bathroom - with the exception of the vanity lights. I don't want to make you feel badly about them, I'm just blunt like this. What was the rationale behind that choice?

Baby Lee 12-02-2007 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Phobia
I understand the differences in the sauces. I guess I didn't realize Memphis was more of a dry rub city. That probably means my style leans more towards Memphis even though I've lived in Carolina, Texas, and KC. Strange.
Sorry, completely misread your post. Thought the sauce differences were what you were talking about.

Chief Pote 12-02-2007 10:31 AM
Nice job Phobia.

You seem like the type of contractor that pays attention to the finish details. The average homeowner doesn't know what makes those "high" end projects look good when complete. Contractor's that do OR even care are rare.

Phobia 12-02-2007 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ChiefPote
Nice job Phobia.

You seem like the type of contractor that pays attention to the finish details. The average homeowner doesn't know what makes those "high" end projects look good when complete. Contractor's that do OR even care are rare.
Thanks brotha. It's those little things that make the project complete. I really do care - even more than my own house. I've been living without quarter round for my hardwoods at my house for over a year - among many other things. I'd never do that to a client. Heh. Sometimes it costs me too much time but I do like to leave everybody happy.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2007 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia
8 weeks? Heh. That's a good bathroom. When I first got into this business I actually did a little tiny bathroom with similar tile choices to yours except they chose really huge 3' x 1' panels. I vastly underbid the project and little old lady stood there watching me put up each and every tile. It wouldn't have been so bad but she didn't like color variations from tile to tile and she'd start telling me my tiles were crooked before I had even removed my hands from them. Brutal. She wasn't a candidate for natural tiles - she should have saved the $14 per sq ft and bought ceramic.

You did a heckuva job picking those tiles. Your taste leans exactly where my own does. I'm a big sucker for travertine and even moreso slate when people are on a budget.



Thanks. I love to work for clients like yourself because you know what you want and you're willing to spend the money to get it.

I overlight - it's so much better than the alternative. There's 20+ cans in that basement. I loved and I mean absolutely loved every choice in your bathroom - with the exception of the vanity lights. I don't want to make you feel badly about them, I'm just blunt like this. What was the rationale behind that choice?
Thank again for the kind words.

The vanity lights were quickly replaced but I don't have current photos on my computer. We bought a couple sets of lights and I put them up and took pictures. Vanity lighting has been very, very difficult for us in the bathrooms. We must have bought 8 or 9 different styles when we remodeled the other bathrooms. We ended up putting in the same light fixture (it's really cool modern, flat strip) in 4 of the 5.

I've been using the same contractor now for my big jobs since 2004. He loves me, not only because I'm easy to work with and pay him weekly for completed work but because I go into projects with a full plan and know exactly what I want. He's told me horror stories of doing 100k bathrooms that the client ended up hating because the client refused to have any input.

I think the key to successful remodel is setting a budget, researching material costs, then doing everything possible to make yourself happy within that budget.

As well as a good, detailed, cooperative, reasonable contractor. :thumb:

Phobia 12-02-2007 12:41 PM
Oh good. I was feeling guilty about commenting on those lights. They really didn't fit, IMO. But I'm pretty picky about lights. I already don't like the two vanity lights I installed in my master just a year ago. Maybe I'll find a project I can use them on and find something better for my master.

Speaking with regard to lighting, I think every room needs a statement piece. Up until a couple months ago my master was kinda bland despite decorative inlaid tile on the floor and tub surround and a quality faux paint job - then I installed a large hanging light fixture that would have seemed WAY too big for a bathroom but it really finishes the bathroom. I should go take a couple pics. It's really spectacular. I love trying stuff like that - stuff most people wouldn't be ballsy enough to try. Hey, if it doesn't work, take it down and try something else.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2007 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia
Oh good. I was feeling guilty about commenting on those lights. They really didn't fit, IMO. But I'm pretty picky about lights. I already don't like the two vanity lights I installed in my master just a year ago. Maybe I'll find a project I can use them on and find something better for my master.

Speaking with regard to lighting, I think every room needs a statement piece. Up until a couple months ago my master was kinda bland despite decorative inlaid tile on the floor and tub surround and a quality faux paint job - then I installed a large hanging light fixture that would have seemed WAY too big for a bathroom but it really finishes the bathroom. I should go take a couple pics. It's really spectacular. I love trying stuff like that - stuff most people wouldn't be ballsy enough to try. Hey, if it doesn't work, take it down and try something else.
Ah, don't feel guilty. I like to hear people's opinions. And you were obviously thinking the same way as us, so we must have similar tastes. That again confirms that I'd hire you in sec!

It's amazing to me that there are places like Lamps Plus, all these online places, Mom & Pop stores all over Los Angeles and yet it's next to impossible to find something that works.

I'd love to see the pics and I'll try to gather up a few more bathroom pics to post as well.

Phobia 12-02-2007 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud
Ah, don't feel guilty. I like to hear people's opinions. And you were obviously thinking the same way as us, so we must have similar tastes. That again confirms that I'd hire you in sec!

It's amazing to me that there are places like Lamps Plus, all these online places, Mom & Pop stores all over Los Angeles and yet it's next to impossible to find something that works.

I'd love to see the pics and I'll try to gather up a few more bathroom pics to post as well.
Oh, I don't want to be THAT guy - the guy who comes over and scrutinizes your whole house. You know him. Everybody has one in their circle of friends. I've been him before but I really try not to be. Sometimes I can't help but open my mouth.

I never really have trouble finding functional and attractive lighting. I mean, it's definitely an art but I have very specific tastes which seem to work in most applications. I can handle contemporary, industrial, and rustic. I hope I never have to choose lighting for a traditional application - I can't stand brass and/or crystal.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2007 01:43 PM
Oh, I didn't mean that you were that guy. Just that I like it when people make comments about all the work we've done here, good or bad. Though fortunately, we've rarely ever heard a negative comment. :)

Our home is more contemporary modern and ceiling fans with light fixtures as well as the previously mentioned vanity lights were a pain to choose. We just couldn't walk into Home Depot or Lowe's to find what we needed. Not to say that's there's not suitable and nice lighting at those places, it's just that we were always looking for "unique", and that requires a lot of research and work. Plus, we'd never done any remodeling before so it was all quite a challenge.

Phobia 12-02-2007 01:47 PM
Ceiling fans are more difficult to choose. But I've always found exactly what I was seeking and it's worked perfectly.

I was working on a basement for my cousin a few years ago - he made it into an Irish pub with many traditional elements. I enjoyed the woodwork and bathroom but all the other requirements of brass really threw me. I did not enjoy that aspect of the project. The project ended prematurely when he ran out of money (bad gambling problem) and we never got a chance to finish so I have nothing to show for it.

Phobia 12-02-2007 01:49 PM
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Though fortunately, we've rarely ever heard a negative comment. :)
So, I'm that guy afterall? Heh. I enjoy the distinction. I'm actually rather relieved you replaced those fixtures. I'd have hated to put that in your head and helped you to start disliking them.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2007 02:02 PM
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So, I'm that guy afterall? Heh. I enjoy the distinction. I'm actually rather relieved you replaced those fixtures. I'd have hated to put that in your head and helped you to start disliking them.
That bathroom was completed in September of 2005. We knew immediately that those lights didn't work but the subsequent light fixtures did work. I'm trying to find a pic and when I do, I'll post it. Outside of that pic, I'm not sure if anyone actually saw that fixture outside of me, my wife and now Chiefsplanet. :) So I'm sure there would have been others that would have commented on that particular fixture, so no worries.

The main concern for my wife in that bathroom was lighting. There isn't much (if any) natural light in that bathroom so we had eight 4" can lights, two exhaust fan lights and a Sola-Tube installed. The Sola-Tube was pure genius, because it allows so much natural light to flow through the room. But the bigger issue wasn't light during the day but adequate lighting for make-up and whatnot at night. So our first concern was the number of lights on each vanity fixture.

And I'm with you on ceiling fans. It just takes time to look and find the right fan/lighting combo but fortunately, there are plenty of resources available via the internet.

Phobia 12-02-2007 02:06 PM
My master ceiling is vaulted with the roof line. There's plenty of natural light due to 2 windows but I'm still dying to install an electric sky light I can open and close on a remote.

BigOlChiefsfan 12-02-2007 02:12 PM
Good work Phil - a lot of nice stuff in this thread.

If you're ever shopping for someone with an 'Arts and Crafts' style home (lots of these in KC) I like these folks.

http://www.crafthome.com/products.htm

Phobia 12-02-2007 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BigOlChiefsfan
Good work Phil - a lot of nice stuff in this thread.

If you're ever shopping for someone with an 'Arts and Crafts' style home (lots of these in KC) I like these folks.

http://www.crafthome.com/products.htm
I adore Arts & Crafts homes. Unfortunately, I don't know any clients who can afford to do it right and that style doesn't mix well with other styles despite my desire to often mix styles.

DaneMcCloud 12-02-2007 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia
My master ceiling is vaulted with the roof line. There's plenty of natural light due to 2 windows but I'm still dying to install an electric sky light I can open and close on a remote.
That sounds awesome! The drawback to the Sola-Tube in a situation like that is that it always provides light. It's great in the bathroom and our foyer. It provides light for the foyer, which is three floors below.

But an electric light would be really cool in the master. How much do those cost and are there leakage problems?

Phobia 12-02-2007 02:29 PM
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That sounds awesome! The drawback to the Sola-Tube in a situation like that is that it always provides light. It's great in the bathroom and our foyer. It provides light for the foyer, which is three floors below.

But an electric light would be really cool in the master. How much do those cost and are there leakage problems?
They're as much money as you're willing to spend - generally a minimum of $600+. A skylight will leak under 3 conditions:
1. Poor quality.
2. Incorrect installation.
3. Damage.

Otherwise, it's a non-issue.

BTW, thanks for humoring me in this discussion. I enjoy talking construction with those who appreciate the finer points of the trade.

BigOlChiefsfan 12-02-2007 02:32 PM
Some interesting lights/fixtures from these folks.

http://www.rejuvenation.com/?ipb=GA1017

Phobia 03-17-2008 09:46 AM
This is about as proud as I've been since the Scottsdale outdoor kitchen. I wish I'd have known how to do concrete counters then.

Before:
http://i28.tinypic.com/2yottad.jpg
After:
http://i28.tinypic.com/dcwvg5.jpg

Phobia 03-17-2008 09:46 AM
Here's the back of the bar:
http://i26.tinypic.com/qo7e2w.jpg

Phobia 03-17-2008 09:47 AM
My first undermount sink with concrete countertops. Actually, it's my second. The first effort dried too dry and shattered when I pulled it out of the form.

http://i32.tinypic.com/sf8g0m.jpg

Phobia 03-17-2008 09:48 AM
Here's a picture of the marquis during construction and after. The after pic doesn't do this justice. It's a real presence in the basement.

During:
http://i26.tinypic.com/f26gs3.jpg

After:
http://i26.tinypic.com/29q15kz.jpg

go bo 03-17-2008 02:49 PM
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Thanks brotha. It's those little things that make the project complete. I really do care - even more than my own house. I've been living without quarter round for my hardwoods at my house for over a year - among many other things. I'd never do that to a client. Heh. Sometimes it costs me too much time but I do like to leave everybody happy.
i know you made me happy...

this gives me another chance to say thank you...

and to recommend you to anyone who needs some top of the line quality and workmanship...

highly skilled and very creative...

an unusual combination...

color me a very satisfied customer... :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

OnTheWarpath15 03-17-2008 03:10 PM
That's phenomenal, Phil.


I know this: If Sal and I ever move to KC, you'll have a client for life.

Great work.

Phobia 03-17-2008 03:20 PM
Thanks guys - that's very high praise. FWIW, I created this thread originally because I was taking pictures to close the deal for the basement you see pictured today. You can see I employed the concrete counter design and mosiac wrapped poles just as in my own home. I really wish I had the time and money to do mine like I did theirs.

DaFace 03-17-2008 03:25 PM
Damn...I'm jealous. If I ever 1) move to KC, 2) own a home, and 3) need some remodel work done, I won't hesitate to give you a call!

Phobia 03-17-2008 03:29 PM
Heh. You guys haven't even seen the good pictures yet. There's a big TV hanging on the wall off to the right of the bar. The one across from the bar is only a 40". This is a true man-cave.

el borracho 03-17-2008 03:59 PM
Great job (as usual)! It's really a shame you don't live here in ABQ.

Hoover 03-17-2008 04:36 PM
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I adore Arts & Crafts homes. Unfortunately, I don't know any clients who can afford to do it right and that style doesn't mix well with other styles despite my desire to often mix styles.
I have a great Arts and Crafts home. My current problem is I'm looking at demoing my POS garage and putting in a two story garage with an office on the second floor. My problem is I want it to look right with my house.

Here a link to the garage plans I'm looking at and I've attached a pic of my house. Do you think the two would look good together or not. The garage would be 30 feet or so away from the house.

http://www.architecturaldesigns.com/...an-88335sh.asp

stevieray 03-17-2008 04:40 PM
you keep getting better, other than selling faux and murals..;)

I know a guy...hard worker, looking for part time work..can I give him your number?


I just completed a five foot Jayhawk, and a four foot NFL logo...I love doing rooms for kids...they so appreciate it...

Phobia 03-17-2008 04:43 PM
Awesome. Anythin gfor the Allen bar?

I need to get up to your pad soon.

Sure, give the guy my number. I just hired a guy last week and just told my foreman I wasn't hiring again for a while but I'll always talk to somebody. I might get a job tomorrow I need help on.

Phobia 03-17-2008 04:47 PM
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I have a great Arts and Crafts home. My current problem is I'm looking at demoing my POS garage and putting in a two story garage with an office on the second floor. My problem is I want it to look right with my house.

Here a link to the garage plans I'm looking at and I've attached a pic of my house. Do you think the two would look good together or not. The garage would be 30 feet or so away from the house.

http://www.architecturaldesigns.com/...an-88335sh.asp
There's two things popping out to me. Your house has a hip roof throughout. The garage is a gabled roof which is important for the finished office upstairs. It will probably be alright but it's something to be aware of. Are you considering a breezeway attaching the house to the garage?

The second thing is the posts. Make sure they design the garage posts to match the house or the garage will catch your eye from the street. You don't want your garage to have more curb appeal than your house.

stevieray 03-17-2008 04:48 PM
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Awesome. Anythin gfor the Allen bar?

I need to get up to your pad soon.

Sure, give the guy my number. I just hired a guy last week and just told my foreman I wasn't hiring again for a while but I'll always talk to somebody. I might get a job tomorrow I need help on.
No, I was too late...I've got to get down there and check it out..

This guy could use the leg up...I'll have him give you a call..he's starting his own busuness..but every litle bit sure helps...I'll let him know...

thanks dude, appreciate it.

Phobia 03-17-2008 04:50 PM
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No, I was too late...I've got to get down there and check it out..

This guy could use the leg up...I'll have him give you a call..he's starting his own busuness..but every litle bit sure helps...I'll let him know...

thanks dude, appreciate it.
Oh no. I'm a sucker for those people. Heh. I'll probably hire him but it kinda depends on my next few projects. I've been turning over people pretty regularly. Some people don't want to work. Believe it or not, I just have people who stop showing up. Crazy industry.

stevieray 03-17-2008 04:52 PM
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Oh no. I'm a sucker for those people. Heh. I'll probably hire him but it kinda depends on my next few projects. I've been turning over people pretty regularly. Some people don't want to work. Believe it or not, I just have people who stop showing up. Crazy industry.
that isn't this guy...thank you man...

Hoover 03-17-2008 05:18 PM
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There's two things popping out to me. Your house has a hip roof throughout. The garage is a gabled roof which is important for the finished office upstairs. It will probably be alright but it's something to be aware of. Are you considering a breezeway attaching the house to the garage?

The second thing is the posts. Make sure they design the garage posts to match the house or the garage will catch your eye from the street. You don't want your garage to have more curb appeal than your house.
No breeze way, I have a huge patio I want to keep.

I like the posts on the garage because they are like the ones inside my house. But they do kind of worry me and I think you make a good point not to have a garage that has more appeal than my house. I've just have had a hell of a time finding anything that doesn't look too tall and modern in comparison to my house. I almost wonder is a carriage house type garage might be the way to go.

Phobia 03-17-2008 05:41 PM
Just have them convert the 4 columns on your porch to match the garage design. That wouldn't be incredibly difficult.

Bowser 03-17-2008 06:59 PM
Let me jump in and say Phobes and his guys do good work, and I'd recommend them anytime.

Halfcan 03-17-2008 08:10 PM
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Let me jump in and say Phobes and his guys do good work, and I'd recommend them anytime.
Thats for sure!!

DeezNutz 03-17-2008 08:15 PM
Nice looking place, Hoover.

Hoover 03-17-2008 10:21 PM
Thanks. Its a bitch to heat.

DaneMcCloud 03-17-2008 11:02 PM
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This is about as proud as I've been since the Scottsdale outdoor kitchen. I wish I'd have known how to do concrete counters then.

Before:
http://i28.tinypic.com/2yottad.jpg
After:
http://i28.tinypic.com/dcwvg5.jpg
Absolutely outstanding work! Kudos!

stlchiefs 03-17-2008 11:48 PM
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Granite is the new Formica. Concrete is the new high end. It just hasn't hit the midwest hard yet. It's really big on the coasts.
From what I've read a major drawback of concrete is the risk of staining of a colored liquid is spilled and left on the countertop. Is this a myth or something that has been corrected recently? I know any surface can stain in some manner, but I've heard that because concrete is so porous it increases the chances of staining.

stlchiefs 03-18-2008 12:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4635794)
There's two things popping out to me. Your house has a hip roof throughout. The garage is a gabled roof which is important for the finished office upstairs. It will probably be alright but it's something to be aware of. Are you considering a breezeway attaching the house to the garage?

The second thing is the posts. Make sure they design the garage posts to match the house or the garage will catch your eye from the street. You don't want your garage to have more curb appeal than your house.
I'm not a contractor like Phobia, but I did notice those two aspects as well as the roof. This may be a dumb post and you already planned on matching your current house, but I'd say you definitely want a tiled roof on the garage as well.

I'd also try to match the brick from the house and try to incorporate what appears to be limestone under the windows into the garage design. Once again I'm not a contractor, but I did sleep at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

stlchiefs 03-18-2008 12:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4635047)
This is about as proud as I've been since the Scottsdale outdoor kitchen. I wish I'd have known how to do concrete counters then.

Before:
http://i28.tinypic.com/2yottad.jpg
After:
http://i28.tinypic.com/dcwvg5.jpg
Awesome transformation. What a great way to incorporate/hide the supports. You appear to do great work Phobia. Your pole wrapping skills are nothing to be ashamed of either. :D

Hoover 03-18-2008 12:48 AM
You know I amaze at how much roomier the space seems in the after photo.

Phobia 03-18-2008 07:02 AM
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From what I've read a major drawback of concrete is the risk of staining of a colored liquid is spilled and left on the countertop. Is this a myth or something that has been corrected recently? I know any surface can stain in some manner, but I've heard that because concrete is so porous it increases the chances of staining.
Yes, that's a concern - which is why we seal and wax it.

Alternatively, you can just let it stain and let your counters develop their own patina. That's another popular option.

Phobia 03-19-2008 05:52 PM
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You know I amaze at how much roomier the space seems in the after photo.
So,.... any decisions on your garage/office yet? I really like that plan. Looks like a fun build. I wish you were in Liberty instead of 3 hours away.

Hoover 03-19-2008 06:05 PM
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So,.... any decisions on your garage/office yet? I really like that plan. Looks like a fun build. I wish you were in Liberty instead of 3 hours away.
Actually I'm going to see if I can fit this thing on my lot. I think the Roof lines work better with the house.

Phobia 03-19-2008 06:14 PM
Wow - that's a hip roof but I'm not sure it goes any better than the gabled roof. The architect of your home went to a lot of effort to insure the pitch of your roof was symmetrical throughout - which is typical of the craftsman era. But here you're introducing an element with a much steeper pitch.

I think the only way to make that garage work would be to modify the plans to a ~12' wall in order to match the pitch on the house.

Otherwise, I think the gabled roof will work equally well because it doesn't look like you shoehorned an addition to "match" when it really doesn't. Plus, you'll be more comfortable on the 2nd level of a gabled roof than a hip roof.

I should really be charging a consulting fee. Heh.

Sully 03-19-2008 06:34 PM
How much did that basement end up costing total?

Phobia 03-19-2008 06:38 PM
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How much did that basement end up costing total?
Just under $50k but that's all inclusive - including TV's and surround system.

Hoover 03-19-2008 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4639807)
Wow - that's a hip roof but I'm not sure it goes any better than the gabled roof. The architect of your home went to a lot of effort to insure the pitch of your roof was symmetrical throughout - which is typical of the craftsman era. But here you're introducing an element with a much steeper pitch.

I think the only way to make that garage work would be to modify the plans to a ~12' wall in order to match the pitch on the house.

Otherwise, I think the gabled roof will work equally well because it doesn't look like you shoehorned an addition to "match" when it really doesn't. Plus, you'll be more comfortable on the 2nd level of a gabled roof than a hip roof.

I should really be charging a consulting fee. Heh.
Yeah, I think the worse thing I could do is build something thats too big.

Valiant 03-19-2008 07:06 PM
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Okay, I'm showing off. I just finished a couple photos for a potential customer so I figured I'd share them.

The picture I'm showing is my first concrete counter attempt and is installed in my own home - on my kitchen island bar. The other focus is the pole wrap technique I've used. I've never, ever seen it done elsewhere and all my internet searches has failed to turn up a picture like it. Finally you'll see the floor with the diamond mosaic inlays. I'm kinda partial to that.

Wow, who you been practicing on.. That technique is thuper!!!!


:D Just ****ing with ya.. looks good..

Valiant 03-19-2008 07:08 PM
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Get that vision out of your head. Concrete countertops are NOTHING like a driveway (unless you want it to look like your driveway). Every concrete specialist has their own closely guarded recipe but it all starts with portland, sand, and water.

Check out this gallery. You won't believe what they can do with concrete. http://www.concretenetwork.com/photo...rt=MostPopular

A few reasons concrete is gaining popularity:
1. You can make any shape you want.
2. You can span or cantilever greater distances.
3. The sky is the limit with regard to color, texture, graining, inlays, trivets, etc.
4. You can integrate concrete sinks into the actual counter.
We are going to try and do concrete that looks like tiles at our lakehouse.. Looks amazing when done correctly..

Valiant 03-19-2008 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by stlchiefs (Post 4636364)
From what I've read a major drawback of concrete is the risk of staining of a colored liquid is spilled and left on the countertop. Is this a myth or something that has been corrected recently? I know any surface can stain in some manner, but I've heard that because concrete is so porous it increases the chances of staining.
Generally from the tips I have watched you put some sort of lacquer(sp?) over it to stop stains or scratches from heavy items.. Kind of like what you see at wooden bar tops, but for concrete..

Valiant 03-19-2008 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4639844)
Just under $50k but that's all inclusive - including TV's and surround system.
Holy shit.. Them ****ers must be lying on the flip it shows..

Phobia 03-19-2008 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 4639890)
Holy shit.. Them ****ers must be lying on the flip it shows..
What do you mean?

teedubya 03-19-2008 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 4635788)
you keep getting better, other than selling faux and murals..;)

I know a guy...hard worker, looking for part time work..can I give him your number?


I just completed a five foot Jayhawk, and a four foot NFL logo...I love doing rooms for kids...they so appreciate it...
Good work, a Jayhawk... you have a pic of it?

teedubya 03-19-2008 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4640183)
What do you mean?
I think he is saying "GOOD LORD 50K!!!!?!!?!?!!!!??? LOLOMGWTFBBQ!!!!1

Phobia 03-19-2008 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs (Post 4640217)
I think he is saying "GOOD LORD 50K!!!!?!!?!?!!!!??? LOLOMGWTFBBQ!!!!1
Nah - that's a lot of basement for the money. That's quite a man-cave for that money. That's a Johnson County man-cave for Jackson County prices.

Valiant 03-20-2008 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 4640183)
What do you mean?
Just seems high from the prices I have seen quoted on the TV shows that redo houses.. And the cost is probably even higher if you did not quote your own labor..

Phobia 03-20-2008 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 4640651)
Just seems high from the prices I have seen quoted on the TV shows that redo houses.. And the cost is probably even higher if you did not quote your own labor..
If I were on a TV show, I'd have said it cost $15k. Most of those shows quote material costs.

That figure included everything, even things I did not sell them such as the electronics and furniture. My number was much lower.

NewChief 03-20-2008 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 4639890)
Holy shit.. Them ****ers must be lying on the flip it shows..
I will say from my very limited experience with remodeling that the prices you see on the house flipping shows are either grossly underestimated (very often with the smaller operations, you end up seeing the costs get out of hand on those shows as they go way over budget) or a result of large companies who have their operations so optimized and can get such good bids in order to ensure repeat business that they really can do it that cheap.


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