Kind of a funny thread.

Settle down, woman. Jeez...

ah, I know...women are so emotional!

I think cooking is cool actually. That being said I could think of a bunch things I would get ahead of that. That would be on the things to get your boy if he already has everything list.

That gift would never even occur to me.

Man means more moral than shovenist (as you're probably suggesting).

Teaching him things like PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY etc is part of being a parent... wouldn't you agree?

It's not gender specific I guess. I guess it'd be teaching my daughters to be women.

Maybe I should've said well rounded and responsible.

Having said that... I wouldn't buy ANY of my kids a toy gun.
Wouldn't buy my boy a Barbie or kitchen.
Wouldn't buy my girls a toy lawn mower.

Get him a pit bull instead. My son loves his. :)

wouldn't buy him a Barbie or a kitchen?
Wouldn't buy her a lawn mower?

Is this because you're doing your best to debunk the gender roles already placed on those toys? Or is it some other reason?

I'm not setting you up, I'm just curious.

You're drawing your own conclusions.
I said he could play with what ever he chooses.
I'm just not going to provide an exclusive bells and whistles kitchen for him.

If he happens to play with one. So be it.
If my daughters happen to play with worms etc. so be it.

By the age of 3 my oldest was baiting her own hook with a worm.
We're not far off in the agreement category.

roger's a good dude

he's just KEEPIN' IT REAL

We have a hand-me-down kitchen that my son never touches. I'm not sure what that means.

I'm not suggesting anything. However, I don't see that men and women are less or more moral than each other. Yes, we teach our kids personal responsibility.

My son has a kitchen, though it's not a Little Tykes one.

What?!? People have kids so that one day they won't have to mow the lawn. I can't imagine letting gender ruin that dream.

i would definitely not kiss a woman who ate dirt.

I don't know really... It just sounds gay.

Like When my son walks around with my other daughters play purses... I tell him to put them down.

Probably my own prejudices or ignorance.
In another thread I explain about how we're more of a traditional family. Difference instead of teaching them to be a housewife or sole provider we're teaching them everything.

Not buying my son a kitchen set is hardly "closing him to the world".

Furthermore, let's be real. There's typically certain roles men & women play in households. I doubt more than 50% of women cut the lawn. I doubt more than 50% of men wash the dishes.

Get the Easy Bake oven so he can be a good susie homemaker.

I should add that my son probably uses his kitchen more than any other toy he has. Of course, I'm in the kitchen a lot, so it's mainly imitative behavior.

I'll bet more than 50% of the men are the main cook of the house.

For a boy = Ghey

For a girl = sexist

No-win sutuation...

And taking out the trash. If you don't make your kids cut the grass and take out the trash then you shouldn't have had them in the first place.

I think if a child has shown a real interest in something, it should be cultivated. Never underestimate the power of a child's imagination.

That's pretty much what happened with ours as well. He showed an interest in cooking, so we got him a toy to foster that interest. He's getting a workbench with lots of toy power tools this Christmas, though.

You can't do that anymore. Too many predators out there, too many bike wrecks waiting to happen. Can't let them skin their knees because of the flesh eating bacteria. Can't play ball games because the kids who aren't as good might feel bad. Can't play chase games because the slower ones might feel bad.

Just have to keep them inside playing with their plastic toys with the safely rounded corners, wiped down with sanitizer daily.

my wife cuts the lawn. i do the dishes.

mainly because i have terrible allergies so she mows. i do the dishes (dishwaser) because my wife can't figure out how to load the thing to max capacity and not waste space, energy and time.

i alwso cook way more than my share. wife bakes, that's about it.

Thought about that. I'd by him one of those without a problem.
It actually TEACHES him how to cook.

Notice I said wash the dishes.

You don't wash the dishes/load the dishwasher? Ever?

but... if you get him and easy bake, be for3ewarned... you'll have to eat those brownies and thy're ****ing nasty.

And a bee bee gun.

ROFL

My daughter helped my wife make some cookies once, and she let her have a wide berth with respect to the ingredients. I almost vomited.

I did but your initial post was about a kitchen not a dish washer.

You're probably of the 30 percentile.

fair enough...

it's a sensitive subject for me because as much as people want to think that men and women have equality in this world, they simply do not. I believe that roles we play as husbands and wives, should be roles that are not assumed but rather agreed upon.

Rarely.
We're pretty traditional.
I handle the bathrooms, lawn, trash, floors while the kitchen is all hers.

You're single huh?

everytime i'm running around the house in my underwear i urge the wife to do the same.

it works. sometimes.

single? No
Idealist? Yes!!!

Sounds like she's got you well-trained.

Like Jilly...
They're agreed upon.

boobies can do that.

Yes, that's the key.

In the kitchen, if I cook/grill, she does the dishes. If she cooks, I do them. Although, she usually procrastinates (probably intentionally) to the point that I end up doing them anyway. I can't stand dirty dishes in the sink.

I'm not sure why everyone is all over wutamess in this case. :shrug: Toys are definitely marketed as gender-specific and I'm pretty sure kitchenette belongs to the girly section of the toy shop. He already said he has no problem if his male child plays with one, just that he wouldn't buy one for a male child. Is everyone here so enlightened that they intentionally ignore traditional gender roles?

i think everyone here is simply arguing that the kitchen toy isn't gay. which is what the thread header was about.

yes, that's the point, we should ignore traditional gender roles. It is not fair to assume that because I am a woman that I should do certain things. And I'm not all over him, I was just wanting clarification and I got it and I appreciate wutamess's view

Many of the world's greatest chefs are men.

FAX

oh, hell yeah!

"come on son, rub some dirt in it, that'll stop the bleeding"

"walk it off"

"real men don't eat quiche."

"yes, son, those are boobies, we like them very very much"

Actually, the kitchen sets at Toys R Us are in a section that includes toy vacuums, toy brooms and mops and some "occupational" type toys like McDonalds stuff......weird, but it's a set with little drink cups and plastic burgers, french fries, etc.

I tried one of the plastic burgers, tasted just like the real thing!

You should get him something totally straight like a harly davidson bike and matching leather jacket chains earing and chaps

Walking it off doesn't make you a man. Some women tolerate pain much better than men.

Liking bobies doesn't make you a man. either.

However, rubbing dirt in a wound only causes infection!
And what's wrong with quiche?

reporst times 2. thanks mr fax.

My wife pulls the same crap. Says she will get to it then two or three days later I usually wash them up either because I cant stand it or need the clean pots and pans to make dinner again. Its a vicious cycle.

On the subject, we have one that our 16 month old girl loves and I wont have a problem if/when my son (arriving in March) starts playing with it. There are a lot of things for them to interact with. However I will agree it isnt exactly a gift I would think to purchase for the little guy but since we have one it wont bother me in the least if he plays with it.

:thumb:

Two or three days?! I'd rather be strapped naked to bed with chiefs4me than have dirty dishes in the sink for more than an hour.

CrazyCoffey was being facetious.

FTR I live in a rural area & hunting is a way of life for young boys. So I have no problem with toy guns. Urban areas I could so that as MAYBE different

the worst thing is when dishes are set IN the sink to soak and they get that nasty crappy water in them...and then you go in to actually use the sink or wash something else and you have to stick your hand in that nasty water to move the dish to be able to use the sink...


:Lin:

That's about what I was thinking. Sure, when I was in college maybe, but my standards have gotten a bit stricter since then. I can't really sleep at night if there are dishes in the sink.

I lived in a house with 4 other guys in college and I always cleaned up after these lazy bastards. Even after I was the one who cooked. One guy always left his crap in the sink and so I decided I was going to just count the days it took until he cleaned....19 days later I am washing the pizza pan because I need it and I am scrubbing the rust stain that it left in the sink.

I know.

But seriously,
who's going to teach my son:
"yes, son, those are boobies, we like them very very much"

the boobies will speak for themselves.. I'm sure he won't need much help! Unless you've turned him Gay with all that cooking in the kitchen!!!

If he's not homosexual, he'll figure that out for himself.

ROFL

So, this wasn't an original thought?

FAX

I've gotten up before because my wife has gone downstairs to get a glass of milk and left the fucking glass in the sink.

you'rs talk? i gotta meet you.

alas, no.

Calm down shrink rangers.
That was another joke.

you sir, have issues.

I know, but she's got a great rack, so I put up with it.

Looks like someone's taught you to like boobies. :thumb:

I was half-watching the recent Dallas game, when I looked over at my boy. His eyes were glued to the screen, which is rare for him. I looked at the TV and the Cowboys' cheerleaders were on. I called out his name, and the look on his face was priceless.

GET YOUR BITCH ASS IN THE KITCHEN AND MAKE ME A PIE!!

My son (8) has been asking for one for about 3 years now. I just decided to skip the toys and have him start helping me in the kitchen. He does pretty good considering the wife won't let him near the stove.

I learned to cook mostly by not being supervised as a kid. I think I was in 2nd grade when I decided one morning I wanted pancakes. We didn't have any pancake mix, so I got out my moms Betty Crocker cookbook and went to work. Other than getting the quantity of the sugar and salt mixed up... the pancakes were good. From there on I just kept cooking. I was a line chef at the nicest place in our little town by the 8th grade. Learned a lot about life working in the kitchen at that young age. Mostly I learned that every waitress really wants to be doing something else, and that many of them are horny and undersexed..... it was an eye-opening exp. for sure.

DT

Quickies? Who doesn't like quickies?

SCZWAT DIDST YOU SAY ZU LITLWE TWERP /braces
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I said nothing inappropriate :harumph:




but if I did;
don't hate me
because I'm facetious-ful

F*** the teaching him about liking boobies, I want him to bring some home that will show 'em off to me!


I'm going to be such a dirty old man.....

Exactly.

I don't know why, but males outnumber females when it comes to most acclaimed artists.

Cooking is an art and the best chefs are recognized as artists.

I think you all are equating a little tykes kitchen to chef.

Might as well equate...
football to NFL.
lawn mower to landscape artist.
Barbie to fashion designer.
toy guns to murderer/cowboy.

We're talking about a freaking toy, not your son/daughters future.

Let's ask the expert, DenverChief.

Hey DC what do you think: can a kid catch teh ghey from a toy?