It's true Tom. I don't like Dane, but at least he's not a blithering idiot that has no game other than to call men ladies. Take your tired ass sctick and kick rocks chump.

You're such a moron. People try and tell you things but you don't listen. You ask for specific examples and when you're given them, you still don't listen because you're so caught up in your own bull$hit. Just read what others say about you and take notice - you might learn somthing - fool.

Thanks, Tex. I'll take that to heart.

You try do the same, okay?

How original... :rolleyes:

That's right.

While me and Mr. Flopnuts are on the opposite end of almost every debate, he still has the balls to stand his ground and call me out. And personally, I'm good with that.

A good debate is worth having. I don't mind getting kicked in the knees every so often as long as I get to swing back.

I appreciate a good adversary.

Or maybe in this case, 50 (or more).

All right, dude.

I tried to be nice to you and respect your endless drivel.

Game over.

Have a nice day. :rolleyes:

I have no doubt you're personally insulted by every single negative remark you have hurled at you on this board. Tom it's quite simple to see that you need redemption. You're one of those guys that needs to have people say "Gee Tom, you sure are great. You smart, save the day, son of a gun you!!!" It's obvious by your sorry excuse for a signature. Seriously? Every word you could think of that started with a C beyond an 8th grade comprehension level? You're an attention whore, and you're not that smart. When you figure it out, your life in general will probably start getting easier to manage.

Game. Set. Match. You're dead on Skippy.

That was a crazy play. One in a million. But sometimes lightning strikes. And, anyway, it was his players on the field that made the play and they didn't quit when most guys would have done so. I'd much rather bitch about winning via wacky play than bitch about losing.

As for reminiscent of Carl, you have a point if you exempt the continued draft success, playoff wins, Super Bowl, AFC championship games and the like. And remember, the Tacks are in Indy's division.

FAX

ok im confused is A1na2 Tom Cash??? ROFL

Terry Shea, who gets to fire Dick Curl in front of Herm.

It pains me to say this Dane, because you piss me off frequently. You are dead ****ing on with this post, and it sickens me to my stomach. However, I think it's time for Carl to move on. He did better than this his 1st year rebuilding here. We've been regressing rapidly since 2003.

I guess what we're trying to say Tom, is even though we're divided on almost everything, we can come together to make sure you know in your heart of hearts, that you bring ZERO VALUE to this board. We're not the only ones who have told you so, no?

lulz. Nailed it.

I feel the same way about you, Mr. Flopnuts.

Must be the Holiday Season. :)

Jack Harry thinks the Chiefs should hire Terry Bradway.......how sad. That might be even worse...

I don't think there's any question: Bradway would be MUCH worse.

Jack Harry's a moron.

Is Jack Harry secretly Skip?

I'll throw my name in the ring, heck I graduate this week with a sports management degree and I need a job. :)

Eric DeCosta is a hot name to throw around for an up an comer.

Pat Moriarty is Ozzie Newsome's right hand man.


http://www.baltimoreravens.com/Team/Default.aspx?id=288

Dunno about GM, but I wonder if Mike Singletary would make a good head coach.

http://www.titansonline.com/team/adm....php?PRKey=136

To early for him, but he seems to have made a big jump to basically asst gm of Tenn.

Who knows, but it will only be a matter of time before someone takes a chance, imo.

I'll admit I know very little about GM's but I'd like to see us hire a younger guy who can stay here for a good while like Peterson has.

what he said

heck i'm probably gonna get the noob title although i;ve been on here for years.


dane I dont know much about the marty situation, but the reason why kc fans are upset is the front office lied to the fan base.

we were told we were retooling but we would still be competitive.

now if carl had said from the get go we are gonna have a rebuild . Then started croyle everyone would of been like we suck but we are building twd something..

but not carl he cares more about money from the sold tickets than the chiefs the huard move proved it to me.

the funny thing is I never really complained about him till this year. That hard knocks was self promoting for him to show how great of a gm and person he is.

so dane we are frustrated because we don't see the future as positive right now.

Dane, is this really you?
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Unfortunately, I think the next GM will be from the King Carl lineage and none of those excite me at all.

I don't undestand why everyone thinks Pioli is off limits. Why? Just because he's the son-in-law of Bellicheck? He's got a cushy job with the best team in the NFL? Yes, that is really cool and why would a sane person leave that enviorment?

Because of the challenge to do it on his own.

Great excutives love to prove they duplicate their success at their next stop. They have to keep theirselves challanged.

He would have a very loyal fanbase that would embrace him. It would be a "fun" job.

He would be worshipped like King Carl never was. He would not need a bodygaurd.

Clark would offer him a bucketload of money and full control of the Chiefs.

Sure it's a long long shot but I say to you fellow Chief fans why not dream! Why settle?

To make a true splash in at GM the Chiefs should put a full court press on, wait for it.....

Bill Parcells.

The man can evaluate talent, understands how to build all three facets of the game (def, off, spec. teams). Has a firm grip on the current coaching talent in the NFL, and has a pedigree that is proven in terms of scouting to build a winner.

Sure in his past few stints as a coach, he's made gameday mistakes, but his ability to find players to fit schemes is impressive. He may cost a bundle, but this man knows how to win.

Bill Parcells is 66 years old and has retired from football 3 different times. He isn't coming here to be our GM and, really, I wouldn't want him to.

Would Marty Schottenhiemer make a good GM?

No

Yes

NO!

ROFL ROFL

That guy was such a genius.

I like pioli alot but don't know if we have what it takes to get him. What about the excutive under savage or newsome.

we need a good talent evaluator let them get the players with some feedback from herman edwards. Get an OC and let them controll the O and gunther controll the D with edwards giving little speeches perfect plan LOL jk bout edwards

And which GM duties do you see as playoff specific?
I mean, you do realize that arguing that someone would be a bad GM because they have been a bad COACH in some situations is about as relevant as criticizing ability to throw a fastball?

And in every single case they thought they could do better and ended up measurably worse.

Just so we're clear, your position is that credibility is important for Skip, but not for you?

:shrug:

Agreed, Who knows what kind of GM Marty actually be? I dont? Do you?


What I was trying to get through to Skip, before he melted down on me. It is time to remove the 2 decades of mediocrity from arrowhead and give us new life... No Carl, Marty (or his coaching bush), Edwards, Vermiel, Gunther, etc....

What is wrong with that? What is wrong with a life long fan wanting something better?

IF there has ever been a perfect time to get this ship sailing straight, this is the time, with a new GM and Coaching Staff.

Cleveland didn't improve.
Kansas City didn't improve.
Washington didn't improve.

The jury's still out on San Diego. If the Chargers win one playoff game, that will be an improvement.

That being said, his success as a head coach in the regular season doesn't qualify him to be the general manager of a football team.

Relax buddy... Its all in good fun, dont take it so serious...

Tee hee...
You said "coaching bush."

tee hee!

I just found it exceedingly funny for you to, in consecutive posts, warn Skip about the horrors of losing credibility, and wax sarcastic about the utter ridiculousness of trying to maintain credibility.

Thing is, he's a guy who is a phenomenal success in so many phases of the business, who seems to be cursed at one aspect, the playoffs. So mightn't a perfect position be GM, where he can exert his influence in the areas where he's excelled, and sit back in January an let someone else lift the curse on the field.

My trepidation concerns how his history with the organization might color his future decisions, but that's not to say there isn't a place out there where he'd excell.

Marty didn't really draft well when he was here, if you buy into the coach having a large influence over that in KC. Here is what Marty is good at: Coaching a bad team into a good team. I don't see the qualifications for GM.

That's pretty much the way I see it, Mr. Brock. Marty is clearly gifted as a teacher who can coach up individual players. Apparently, he's also a good motivator. But, those are skills that don't really fall under a GM's responsibilities.

In my view, we need a GM with a proven track record of being able to evaluate talent. Somebody who has drafted well enough and for long enough that the organization can feel confident we can turn around our poor drafting history and tendencies. I'd also like to see somebody with a solid commitment to player development so we can get the most out of those marginal players you acquire along the way.

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So tell me Baby Lee, what does credibility on a sports message board, where everyone has a different opinions, thoughts, and ideas actually mean?

Should a select few so called credible ones start dictating the way people think and post here? IF they dont conform to the way certain people think, then they should be banned?

This isnt WPI, This is Chiefsplanet, the best source of Chiefs news in the country... There isnt another sports page I read but this one. I like the diversity and the freedom of people being able to give their thoughts and opinions...

Yeah, that's what I was aiming for. I'm itching for the annointment of overlords.
Credibility is your currency for people taking your musings seriously, nothing more.
You were the one warning of the dire consequences of losing credibility for agreeing with another poster.
All I did was point out how silly that warning looked, like, 30 seconds later when the object of your ministrations called your credibility into question, and your laughed it off as a consequence free enterprise.
I'm not saying it's one or the other, but I'm pretty sure it's a metaphysical impossibility for it to be both.
And certainly there is no connection between the idea of remembering the actions of one's past to judge the merits of present musings and implementing a code of thought process with approved arbitors.

Yeah I got nothing, I was just joking around with Skip, but apparently some people take what is posted as Gospel...