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BigMeatballDave 02-28-2008 01:54 PM

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Bowser 02-28-2008 02:06 PM

What is all this Ryan talk? I thought we were going to bring in JP Losman and David Carr?

BigChiefFan 02-28-2008 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4606240)
What would you be willing to trade for Brady Quinn?

I'd give a 4th rounder this year and a 3rd rounder next year- I don't think the Browns would even nibble.

The good news is, we might be able to draft Flacco, Woodson or Henne in the draft.

bowener 02-28-2008 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 4606294)
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I hate matt ryan more now. He displayed absolutely no signs or skills of what you look for in a starting QB in that entire clip. All I needed to know about his arm as a chief was shown in the first 8 seconds, a 4 yard checkdown pass. The fact that he was always running around was annoying too, he should just stand in there and fall to the ground in the fetal position when his line allows defenders to come through. **** you matt ryan.

DJJasonp 02-28-2008 02:19 PM

I'd pass on a QB this year.....get some O-line help and let Brodie be Brodie....

It's not like we're going to be drafting 30th next year anyways....so you'll probably have a decent shot again next year at a decent QB if necessary.

Not to be all doom and gloom....but hey...

OnTheWarpath15 02-28-2008 02:26 PM

Interesting that there are some folks in this thread who've been bitching about the possibility of picking Gholston, who are advocating Ryan.

In other threads, y'all are against Gholston because you THINK he'd be a backup.

Ryan WOULD be a backup, and a pretty risky one at that.

A very smart man left me this rep comment regarding Ryan about a month ago, and I agree 100%

Ryan clearly ISN'T in the class of Manning or Palmer. Taking Ryan this year would be "settling", plain and simple. A panic move.

Bowser 02-28-2008 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4606350)
Interesting that there are some folks in this thread who've been bitching about the possibility of picking Gholston, who are advocating Ryan.

In other threads, y'all are against Gholston because you THINK he'd be a backup.

Ryan WOULD be a backup, and a pretty risky one at that.

A very smart man left me this rep comment regarding Ryan about a month ago, and I agree 100%

Ryan clearly ISN'T in the class of Manning or Palmer. Taking Ryan this year would be "settling", plain and simple. A panic move.

I'll go with this. Hell, imo, Darren McFadden would be a better value pick than Ryan.

pikesome 02-28-2008 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4606350)
Interesting that there are some folks in this thread who've been bitching about the possibility of picking Gholston, who are advocating Ryan.

In other threads, y'all are against Gholston because you THINK he'd be a backup.

Ryan WOULD be a backup, and a pretty risky one at that.

A very smart man left me this rep comment regarding Ryan about a month ago, and I agree 100%

Ryan clearly ISN'T in the class of Manning or Palmer. Taking Ryan this year would be "settling", plain and simple. A panic move.

I agree. It's like spending Mercedes money on a Corolla because that's all they had at the time you were shopping.

Tribal Warfare 02-28-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 4606115)
I wouldn't say universally. Croyle still has a good sized bandwagon; I'm just not on it.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showt...ie+Croyle+Club

Yes you are :harumph:

htismaqe 02-28-2008 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 4606350)
Interesting that there are some folks in this thread who've been bitching about the possibility of picking Gholston, who are advocating Ryan.

In other threads, y'all are against Gholston because you THINK he'd be a backup.

Ryan WOULD be a backup, and a pretty risky one at that.

A very smart man left me this rep comment regarding Ryan about a month ago, and I agree 100%

Ryan clearly ISN'T in the class of Manning or Palmer. Taking Ryan this year would be "settling", plain and simple. A panic move.

QFT

htismaqe 02-28-2008 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4606108)
Sad to say, but Croyle really didn't do anything to deserve evaluation beyond this upcoming season. Which he probably won't survive anyway.

That's about how I feel right now.

htismaqe 02-28-2008 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 4606339)
I'd pass on a QB this year.....get some O-line help and let Brodie be Brodie....

It's not like we're going to be drafting 30th next year anyways....so you'll probably have a decent shot again next year at a decent QB if necessary.

Not to be all doom and gloom....but hey...

To be fair, this year's crop of QB's looks like 1983 compared to next year's. If Tebow and Stafford decide not to come out, it will be the worst QB class EVER.

Valiant 02-28-2008 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cochise (Post 4605985)
:shrug: You can't win a championship without a QB. The league is more QB centric than it has ever been. I won't be angry if they take a shot at someone they think can be the guy.

I'm sick of all the 'safe' picks and trade downs and defensive line busts. Why keep doing things the same way as we always have? It obviously doesn't work.

If you always do what you've always done you'll always get what you've always got.

What QB's are available next year?? I am all for sucking for another year if there is another QB in next years draft.. Get stud OL or DL in this draft..

htismaqe 02-28-2008 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valiant (Post 4606511)
What QB's are available next year?? I am all for sucking for another year if there is another QB in next years draft.. Get stud OL or DL in this draft..

Check my post right before yours.

Mosbonian 02-28-2008 03:48 PM

I am still puzzled why anyone would think that Brian Boehm is going to be anything more than another bust at QB.....think David Klingler, Tim Couch, David Carr, etc.....that's what you will get with Brian Boehm.

Ryan and apparently Flecco, are the only decent QB's in the draft this year. If either of them are available, then the Chiefs should take one of them.

There are a couple of Cowboy fans here where I work who are sure that KC is going to trade down with the Cowboys if McFadden is around at #5. And they are pretty sure KC will settle for Dallas' first pick in the first round and their second round pick. I told them we'd be stupid if we took that trade....I'd go for it if we got both 1st round picks and a 3rounder. But that isn't ever going to happen either.

mmaddog
*******

Bowser 02-28-2008 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mmaddog (Post 4606548)
I am still puzzled why anyone would think that Brian Boehm is going to be anything more than another bust at QB.....think David Klingler, Tim Couch, David Carr, etc.....that's what you will get with Brian Boehm.

Ryan and apparently Flecco, are the only decent QB's in the draft this year. If either of them are available, then the Chiefs should take one of them.

There are a couple of Cowboy fans here where I work who are sure that KC is going to trade down with the Cowboys if McFadden is around at #5. And they are pretty sure KC will settle for Dallas' first pick in the first round and their second round pick. I told them we'd be stupid if we took that trade....I'd go for it if we got both 1st round picks and a 3rounder. But that isn't ever going to happen either.

mmaddog
*******

It won't happen, but I wouldn't settle for anything less than both their firsts, their second, and swapping of the thirds.

the Talking Can 02-28-2008 03:50 PM

not my first choice, but I won't criticize the Chiefs for drafting a QBOTF....

Mosbonian 02-28-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 4606553)
It won't happen, but I wouldn't settle for anything less than both their firsts, their second, and swapping of the thirds.

My concern is the guy in your avatar might be just gullible enough to fall for Jones dangling the bait.

mmaddog
*******

pikesome 02-28-2008 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 4606554)
not my first choice, but I won't criticize the Chiefs for drafting a QBOTF....

Then you should be criticizing a Ryan pick.

listopencil 02-28-2008 05:55 PM

Can he kick Field Goals?

nychief 02-28-2008 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 4606495)
To be fair, this year's crop of QB's looks like 1983 compared to next year's. If Tebow and Stafford decide not to come out, it will be the worst QB class EVER.

Chase baby!

nychief 02-28-2008 06:33 PM

I'd take Henne...

Henne started four years at Michigan and was once considered on his way to stardom.

After leading the Wolverines to a perfect record going into their regular-season finale at Ohio State in his junior season, though, things began to crumble.

They lost that game to the rival Buckeyes and then lost the Rose Bowl to Southern California. Coming off those two bitter defeats, Henne's senior season was then plagued by injury and he missed three games.

Those factors caused his stock to fall, but by performing well here in the combine he may have climbed his way back up the list.

Unlike Henne, Flacco was not on television every week and played outside of a BCS conference at Delaware.

He was the tallest quarterback at the combine, coming in at 6-6. That height gives him the ability to see over most pro defensive linemen and find passing lanes.

He obviously did not play against the best competition in college, but his production was outstanding.

He passed for the most yards (4,263) in the Championship Subdivision during his senior season and had 23 touchdowns compared to only five interceptions.

If he can convince teams that he will be able to adjust to the higher level of competition, he might be taken sooner, rather than later, in the draft.

All that being said, Fisher noted on air that "this may be a Tom Brady draft," meaning that the best QB of the bunch may not be unearthed until the later rounds.

For now, though, Henne and Flacco have helped themselves with strong showings.

Micjones 02-28-2008 06:54 PM

Henne's an intriguing prospect.
Excellent numbers in college... Though they declined every year.

Mr. Flopnuts 02-28-2008 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 4605998)
I think he is.

With ALL those interceptions?

beach tribe 02-28-2008 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefDave (Post 4606294)
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He holds on to the ball too much.
He throws across his body too much.
He is frequently inaccurate.
Throws picks.

ALL things that he will not get away with in the NFL.

beach tribe 02-28-2008 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 4606264)
Dave, you are confusing me now. I want to hate him, I just need to know why.

My reasons above.

I don't claim to know anymore than anyone else. It's just what I see.

beach tribe 02-28-2008 07:03 PM

Nevrmind. See page 7.

'Hamas' Jenkins 02-28-2008 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alanm (Post 4606146)
What about the 1997 Orange Bowl against Nebraska?:hmmm:
Had Tennessee won they may have shared with Michigan.

BTW the Huskers would have destroyed Michigan but that's another argument for another day.

Considering that you wouldn't have been in that game if not for an incorrectly called touchdown pass, consider yourself fortunate anyway.

greg63 02-28-2008 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 4606293)
Why do we even care anymore? I mean seriously. Carl will find a way to screw everything up anyway. Why get all invested in the Chiefs draft.


Exactly how I feel.

alanm 02-28-2008 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 4606898)
Considering that you wouldn't have been in that game if not for an incorrectly called touchdown pass, consider yourself fortunate anyway.

I prefer to call it divine intervention.

Brock 02-28-2008 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Flopnuts (Post 4606854)
With ALL those interceptions?


He threw about 5 more interceptions in his college career than Peyton Manning did. On a shitty team.

nychief 02-28-2008 08:26 PM

we need to draft a Qb... again, I'd rather us go after a Henne or Brohm after rnd 1.


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