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Hootie 05-30-2008 03:13 AM

how is Paul Pierce better than Scottie Pippen? Your whole premise in the argument is Scottie never won anything on his own etc. etc. etc.

What has Paul Pierce won?

Pierce is a much better scorer, yes...it's no question. But what else can Pierce do better than Pippen? Nothing...he's not the passer, he's not even near the defender, he isn't the rebounder...

Pippen redefined his position...he was the primary ball handler for the Bulls...

Pippen was an all around great player...he was on the 50 greatest players of all time list...Paul Pierce wouldn't even sniff that list.

Pierce, great offensive player...but he isn't hall of fame bound or anything...

kcxiv 05-30-2008 03:18 AM

Peirce is a good defender. I will give him that. He's got game, but not as good as Pip.

Ultra Peanut 05-30-2008 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ZootedGranny (Post 4774529)

BETTING ON THESE JUNGLE *****S IS GETTING WILD

DaKCMan AP 05-30-2008 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4774790)
So, is it safe to say that if Jordan didnt have Pippen he wouldnt have won any titles? We cannot say that if Kobe didnt have Shaq he wouldnt have won any titles. THey would have built that team differently. So we cannot call it one way or another. You take Shaq out and its TOTALy Difrerent. The way they drafted would have been alot differently. Mr. Logo who you have in your avatar wouldnt have left Kobe out there with nothing to help him develop.

Are you likening Scottie Pippen complementing MJ to Shaq complementing Kobe? ROFL If anything, Kobe was the one complementing Shaq. Those were his teams.

Saulbadguy 05-30-2008 06:44 AM

I thought it was hilarious. I love it when people do things like that. Here is my favorite.

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Ecto-I 05-30-2008 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4774796)
People are going to go crazy when I say this, but Scottie Pippen is overrated. Scottie is a great player, don't get me wrong. If it wasn't for Jordan, he would be an good perennial All-Star who misses the hall of fame. Something along the lines of a Rip Hamilton. Shaq created his own legacy, and he won without Kobe. Look at the couple years he didn't have Jordan, was he good? Yes. Was he dominating? No. Thats not the kind of player he was. Paul Pierce is better than Scottie Pippen.

Paul Pierce is a better scorer than Scottie, but NOT overall. Hell, Scottie is one of the BEST 50 players of all time!

Shaq's other championship also came with D-Wade (without whom, along with others, he would not have won another championship).

DJ's left nut 05-30-2008 12:56 PM

And his other finals appearance came with a healthy Penny Hardaway.

Shaq's a HOFer, one of the 5-8 best Centers of all time, but his inability to hit free throws and his late game yips would have prevented him from ever winning a championship without an elite swingman.

Shaq needed Kobe as much as Kobe needed Shaq.

kcxiv 05-30-2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP (Post 4774849)
Are you likening Scottie Pippen complementing MJ to Shaq complementing Kobe? ROFL If anything, Kobe was the one complementing Shaq. Those were his teams.

Kobe was complimenting Shaq. I wont ever deny that. Kobe was all of what 21? He was still a skinny ass player with tons of potential. He at times took games over no doubt, but Shaq was the key to that team. I wont ever deny that.

leviw 05-30-2008 01:03 PM

Was I the only one burnt on this? It wasn't a lot of money, but still...




...Sasha is a bitch.

BIG_DADDY 05-30-2008 01:19 PM

You notice how many people cheered when he did it. THat was all the people who's ass he just saved because they gave up 8 on the line. Sasha rocks!!! LMAO

Hootie 05-30-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 4775389)
And his other finals appearance came with a healthy Penny Hardaway.

Shaq's a HOFer, one of the 5-8 best Centers of all time, but his inability to hit free throws and his late game yips would have prevented him from ever winning a championship without an elite swingman.

Shaq needed Kobe as much as Kobe needed Shaq.

Totally agree with that...If Shaq could shoot free throws EVEN as well as Tim Duncan, who is far from good at them, he would have probably been considered the most dominant player of all time...

Hootie 05-30-2008 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY (Post 4775436)
You notice how many people cheered when he did it. THat was all the people who's ass he just saved because they gave up 8 on the line. Sasha rocks!!! LMAO

and free tacos!

Hootie 05-30-2008 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 4774514)
I thought it was amusing, it's the kind of thing people do on video games.

I love playing Madden online...being up by several scores...and calling timeouts in the 4th quarter when time is running out to just to rub it in some more...it's hilarious.

Sometimes I'm in a nice mood and run out the clock...but not usually. Depends if the little prick has a mic in or not...

kcxiv 05-30-2008 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 4775583)
I love playing Madden online...being up by several scores...and calling timeouts in the 4th quarter when time is running out to just to rub it in some more...it's hilarious.

Sometimes I'm in a nice mood and run out the clock...but not usually. Depends if the little prick has a mic in or not...

:( you like shitty games. I am sorry. lol I alwys take a shot at people that play Madden. No offense. lol

Hootie 05-30-2008 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv (Post 4775591)
:( you like shitty games. I am sorry. lol I alwys take a shot at people that play Madden. No offense. lol

the madden bashers are crazy...

Madden, on XBOX ORIGINAL, is the greatest football game ever created...2K5 doesn't touch it...the people who think that obviously no nothing about game play...the people that bitch about QB vision don't realize it's single handedly the best feature ever added to a football game...you just have to take time in practice mode to learn it...I love when people bitch about it.

Now...

Madden on the next gen console has been a huge letdown...the gameplay is horrid. Like I said in the madden thread in media lounge...I will rent 2009 for the 360...if it isn't improved...I will buy 2009 for the regular XBOX and play it on my 360...

BWillie 05-30-2008 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 4775583)
I love playing Madden online...being up by several scores...and calling timeouts in the 4th quarter when time is running out to just to rub it in some more...it's hilarious.

Sometimes I'm in a nice mood and run out the clock...but not usually. Depends if the little prick has a mic in or not...

I used to hail mary it in the final seconds to get it down to the 5 yard line. Then down it 3 times in a row and punt it through the field goal posts when I'm blowing someone out. Man that really pisses them off.

I don't have a problem with guys running up the score in any sports ever. Because it's a sport, thats it. Unless they are talking trash while doing it, I don't have a problem. I just think Sasha is just young enough he really doesn't know better. I don't really think there was any malicious intent, thats just kind of the lackadaisical guy he is

kcxiv 05-30-2008 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 4775598)
the madden bashers are crazy...

Madden, on XBOX ORIGINAL, is the greatest football game ever created...2K5 doesn't touch it...the people who think that obviously no nothing about game play...the people that bitch about QB vision don't realize it's single handedly the best feature ever added to a football game...you just have to take time in practice mode to learn it...I love when people bitch about it.

Now...

Madden on the next gen console has been a huge letdown...the gameplay is horrid. Like I said in the madden thread in media lounge...I will rent 2009 for the 360...if it isn't improved...I will buy 2009 for the regular XBOX and play it on my 360...

NO, **** NO. I did like the QB vision cone. I have commented on that in the past, but it wasnt up to the level of 2k5. No way. 4 years later and 2k5 still kicks EA's ass. Present or past.

Mojo Rising 05-30-2008 07:14 PM

I have been a Laker fan for a long time. 2 things Phil and Kobe need to address in the next week are Gasol's showing up of his teammates and Sasha's brashness. Sasha shouldn't have shot the ball when SA was letting the clock run out and not fouling him.

The Lakers have always been a class organization and this doesn't fit.

It won't effect them this year but might come back to bite them down the road.

Spott 05-30-2008 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 4774796)
People are going to go crazy when I say this, but Scottie Pippen is overrated because he didn't go to Kansas. Scottie is a great player, don't get me wrong, but he only played college ball at Central Arkansas. Paul Pierce is better than Scottie Pippen because he went to Kansas.

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