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Mecca 09-24-2008 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by boogblaster (Post 5049115)
Drafting another QB means another 2 to 3 years of ugly games .. but its the only way to completely rebuild ... Croyle is too brittle ... I like the two kids from here KUs & MUs QBs...
They're to short.....anyone under 6' isn't a legit NFL prospect at QB.

milkman 09-24-2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049107)
A closer comparison would be Drew Brees.
Drew Brees is actually a full 6' tall, and he is an anomaly.

I'd be surprised if Daniel measures taller than 5' 10" when the NFL measures him.

Rausch 09-24-2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049089)
Matter of opinion.

He had a couple of big years, and the rest of his career could be best described as productive, but watching him, I just never thought he was anything to write home about. .
IIRC he was Co-MVP and a blown coverage away from a SB ring.

It's nothing compared to the last 12 KC QB's but it's something...

Chiefnj2 09-24-2008 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049072)
It's actually something they took from a thing called the Lewin projection system,The idea is hinged on the assumption that with sufficient game film, scouts can accurately determine weather or not a player has the capacity to be an early round pick. So games started becomes a big factor. Players who start relatively few games tend to have their stock skewed upwards because the scouts haven't seen as much on them, so they get sold on "Upside". This along with completion percentage goes into the projection.

The result is a system that accurately predicted that Peyton Manning would be great, and that Ryan Leaf would be a failure. It's been pretty accurate for the most part.

If you pull up freshman and sophomore stats Stafford's are pretty right in line with Jay Cutler and Carson Palmer.
I found it. It was from Footballoutsiders. The most successful NFL QB's had 35 or more starts and had a completion percentage greater than 60% in college.

milkman 09-24-2008 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049127)
IIRC he was Co-MVP and a blown coverage away from a SB ring.

It's nothing compared to the last 12 KC QB's but it's something...
As I said, he had a couple of good years.

The rest, he was Ok.
But not great.

Rausch 09-24-2008 09:34 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049126)
Drew Brees is actually a full 6' tall, and he is an anomaly.

I'd be surprised if Daniel measures taller than 5' 10" when the NFL measures him.
Ok, explain to me again why 2-4 inches can make or break a (non-porn) career.

Then explain why mobility can't overcome that.

And FTR I'm not saying I want us to draft him, only that it's a measurable like a sub-par 40 time...

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:34 AM
Well Stafford is going to be right at 35 at this end of this year......I'm curious to look at his % after this season, he did make serious strides from his freshman to sophomore year. I know people say he was shaky but he was a true Sophomore starting that's expected.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049142)
Ok, explain to me again why 2-4 inches can make or break a (non-porn) career.

Then explain why mobility can't overcome that.

And FTR I'm not saying I want us to draft him, only that it's a measurable like a sub-par 40 time...
Other than alot of guys with shitty 40's have become good players where as I can't think of 1 QB under 6' tall that was ever a meaningful QB.

Rausch 09-24-2008 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049140)
As I said, he had a couple of good years.

The rest, he was Ok.
But not great.
I'd say 3 great years and the rest average.

I'd also argue that the average years are due to the wear and tear of constant sneaks/draws/bootlegs and whatnot but that is debatable...

milkman 09-24-2008 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049127)
IIRC he was Co-MVP and a blown coverage away from a SB ring.

It's nothing compared to the last 12 KC QB's but it's something...
Oh, and I'm not saying that I wouldn't trade almost every QB the Chiefs have trotted out there over the years.

I'm just saying he was somewhat overrated.

But that wasn't even the point of the post to begin with.

McNair serves as a blueprint on how to develop QBs that get drafted out of gimmick offenses.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049119)
Bradford is more polished and much closer to a finished product..if you have a competent coach that can teach Stafford footwork and base stuff think of what he'll be then.

Stafford is far and away more physically gifted.....Bradford is safe but I don't think he'll ever be elite....Stafford on the other hand is a bit riskier but he grew up idolizing Elway and does possess some of those skills.
While I agree that Bradford is not as likely to improve as much over time, does he need to to be an elite NFL QB? There have been a lot of accurate QBs who have made themselves into Elite QBs, especially relative to gunslingers. I realize Stafford has more upside - but the inherent risk is him not achieving it. That and Bradford is smart a hell. I'll take "Most important QB traits for $1000, Alex."

Rausch 09-24-2008 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049148)
Other than alot of guys with shitty 40's have become good players where as I can't think of 1 QB under 6' tall that was ever a meaningful QB.
You know that people played football before 1985, right?...

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049159)
While I agree that Bradford is not as likely to improve as much over time, does he need to to be an elite NFL QB? There have been a lot of accurate QBs who have made themselves into Elite QBs, especially relative to gunslingers. I realize Stafford has more upside - but the inherent risk is him not achieving it. That and Bradford is smart a hell. I'll take "Most important QB traits for $1000, Alex."
But where does that go when I tell you that Stafford is pretty much a lock to declare and no one thinks Bradford will you can't go "well we ain't taken Stafford cause we want Bradford next year" then you have like the 3rd pick and miss out.

You can't play that way cause the odds of having back to back #1's is slim and none.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049163)
You know that people played football before 1985, right?...
The game is also alot different now than it was then.....I know people love old timer talk but the early days of football didn't feature 250lb LB's that run 4.4s

milkman 09-24-2008 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049142)
Ok, explain to me again why 2-4 inches can make or break a (non-porn) career.

Then explain why mobility can't overcome that.

And FTR I'm not saying I want us to draft him, only that it's a measurable like a sub-par 40 time...
In the end, a QB has to be able stand in the pocket and use the entire field.

Moving a QB outside the pocket limits him to half the field, and good defenses can take that half away from the QB.

Rausch 09-24-2008 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049158)
Oh, and I'm not saying that I wouldn't trade almost every QB the Chiefs have trotted out there over the years.

I'm just saying he was somewhat overrated.

But that wasn't even the point of the post to begin with.

McNair serves as a blueprint on how to develop QBs-
Stop right there.

There we are in complete agreement.

Slowly inch the guy along, feed him more as he's able to digest, and give him the time he needs to take it all in before throwing him out there.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:42 AM
Also as all the players on the field namely the lineman get larger the QB's have to be larger to see the field.

Really look at the top flight QB's they're all very large people.

Brock 09-24-2008 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049175)
Also as all the players on the field namely the lineman get larger the QB's have to be larger to see the field.

Really look at the top flight QB's they're all very large people.
So are all the really bad ones.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:44 AM
If Chase Daniel wants to make it in the NFL I'd tell him to shoot up a bunch of HGH and hope he grows a few inches.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049168)
But where does that go when I tell you that Stafford is pretty much a lock to declare and no one thinks Bradford will you can't go "well we ain't taken Stafford cause we want Bradford next year" then you have like the 3rd pick and miss out.

You can't play that way cause the odds of having back to back #1's is slim and none.
It depends on how it all shakes out. It maybe that the NFL is closing in on an agreement to slot rookies. If they do, I suspect Bradford would come out this year, because he's smart.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049182)
It depends on how it all shakes out. It maybe that the NFL is closing in on an agreement to slot rookies. If they do, I suspect Bradford would come out this year, because he's smart.
If that happens everyone is coming out....but I haven't seen Bradford on any board basically no one thinks he's coming out.

Rausch 09-24-2008 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049177)
So are all the really bad ones.
ROFL

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049186)
If that happens everyone is coming out....but I haven't seen Bradford on any board basically no one thinks he's coming out.
If we have the #1 pick, what are the rules about us contacting players who may potentially come out?

CoMoChief 09-24-2008 09:54 AM
Bradford > Stafford > Sanchez > BYU QB (cant remember name) > Tebow > Daniels

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049209)
If we have the #1 pick, what are the rules about us contacting players who may potentially come out?
That would be against the rules I believe..players have a window to decide if they are coming out or not, and a date they can change their mind by if they don't hire an agent.

I think there's a good chance Stafford would have the higher grade even if he was in the draft with Bradford.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 09:57 AM
Also, if everyone comes out, it wouldn't suck to snag Freeman, who could freefall to around the fourth. He also has the physical tools and could provide some depth.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049223)
Also, if everyone comes out, it wouldn't suck to snag Freeman, who could freefall to around the fourth. He also has the physical tools and could provide some depth.
A 6'6 dude with a big arm is not falling....those guys are called combine risers.

Mecca 09-24-2008 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5049213)
Bradford > Stafford > Sanchez > BYU QB (cant remember name) > Tebow > Daniels
i disagree with that but hey.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049228)
A 6'6 dude with a big arm is not falling....those guys are called combine risers.
If everyone came out, this would be a very deep QB draft all of a sudden. There would be some great talent at low rounds.

the Talking Can 09-24-2008 10:03 AM
realistically, where will daniels go?

6th, 7th rounder a la Brennan and other spread offense QBs with video game numbers

4th, 5th...someone thinks he's a "2nd day" steal?

3rd...someone is convinced he is a an immediate QBOTF?

2nd....height be damned?

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049228)
A 6'6 dude with a big arm is not falling....those guys are called combine risers.
Or preseason GM porn.

The intang....in.......the stuff one can't measure is what truly makes a QB.

It's why Leaf and Mirer sucked and Montana and Brady didn't.

Leadership, guile, heart, desire, will, fortitude.

Your QB is your leader. If he can't lead he won't last...

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5049237)
realistically, where will daniels go?

6th, 7th rounder a la Brennan and other spread offense QBs with video game numbers

4th, 5th...someone thinks he's a "2nd day" steal?

3rd...someone is convinced he is a an immediate QBOTF?

2nd....height be damned?
I think someone will risk him in the 4th-5th.

Noth that where you start is what matters...

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5049237)
6th, 7th rounder a la Brennan and other spread offense QBs with video game numbers
.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:05 AM
Daniel is probably going anywhere from 5th to undrafted....

And um Tom Brady is 6'4 it's not like he's some midget.

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049244)
Daniel is probably going anywhere from 5th to undrafted....

And um Tom Brady is 6'4 it's not like he's some midget.
No, he was just a forgotton extra that got his only shot due to an injury.

I'll bet that 6'4" is why he won those rings and the faith of his team and coaching staff.

Or perhaps it was his resilience and precision. His ball placement and decision making. His calm nature in in the storm.

I won't argue that being tall helps but it sure as hell doesn't make a QB...

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049259)
No, he was just a forgotton extra that got his only shot due to an injury.

I'll bet that 6'4" is why he won those rings and the faith of his team and coaching staff.

Or perhaps it was his resilience and precision. His ball placement and decision making. His calm nature in in the storm.

I won't argue that being tall helps but it sure as hell doesn't make a QB...
Seeing over your O-linemen is a prerequisite for both ball placement and decision making.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:12 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 5049259)
No, he was just a forgotton extra that got his only shot due to an injury.

I'll bet that 6'4" is why he won those rings and the faith of his team and coaching staff.

Or perhaps it was his resilience and precision. His ball placement and decision making. His calm nature in in the storm.

I won't argue that being tall helps but it sure as hell doesn't make a QB...
You're basically describing Matt Ryan...who I add alot of people here didn't like. There are plenty of things I think are overrated when it comes to scouting QB's but I would never in a million years draft a QB under 6'2.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049261)
Seeing over your O-linemen is a prerequisite for both ball placement and decision making.
By the way if Sam Bradford can get to 240 I think he's as similar prospect to Matt Ryan.

the Talking Can 09-24-2008 10:18 AM
i'll be honest about daniels, i'm prejudiced by all the qbs that come out of Texas Tech and do nothing in the nfl....they look unstoppable in college...

that may or may not be a fair comparison....he may have more heart/talent/whatever i can't say....

but if he were there in the 6th, i'd take him....

MIAdragon 09-24-2008 10:19 AM
This is a great idea!

Mr. Arrowhead 09-24-2008 10:20 AM
Mecca, what do you think the chances are, that Mark Sanchez comes out this year?

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:20 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049266)
By the way if Sam Bradford can get to 240 I think he's as similar prospect to Matt Ryan.
Matt Ryan doesn't have anything on Bradford's accuracy, this year or last.

Brock 09-24-2008 10:21 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049266)
By the way if Sam Bradford can get to 240 I think he's as similar prospect to Matt Ryan.
240? What the **** would be the point in that?

Rausch 09-24-2008 10:22 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049264)
You're basically describing Matt Ryan...who I add alot of people here didn't like. There are plenty of things I think are overrated when it comes to scouting QB's but I would never in a million years draft a QB under 6'2.
You'll never in a million years be in a position to draft any QB...

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049283)
Matt Ryan doesn't have anything on Bradford's accuracy, this year or last.
Look who they are playing with, Ryan played with no one so he rarely got to throw to guys with separation.

I think if Bradford can get his size to a similar level they become similar prospects, guys with good heads and accuracy but don't have the giant arms.

Put Matt Ryan on OU he looks like Bradford does...

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Arrowhead (Post 5049282)
Mecca, what do you think the chances are, that Mark Sanchez comes out this year?
About 40%, he basically waited 3 years to be the starter at SC, it's a big deal to him. His dad is a firefighter and everything I know about him just speaks to him probably not coming out early.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049290)
Look who they are playing with, Ryan played with no one so he rarely got to throw to guys with separation.

I think if Bradford can get his size to a similar level they become similar prospects, guys with good heads and accuracy but don't have the giant arms.

Put Matt Ryan on OU he looks like Bradford does...
Matt Ryan at age 24 with Bradford at age 19, 20? Just sayin'.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049284)
240? What the **** would be the point in that?
That's about how big Ryan is.....generally when a guy is 6'4 they are expected to be in the 225-240 range.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049295)
Matt Ryan at age 24 with Bradford at age 19, 20? Just sayin'.
Hey I think that's a compliment since Ryan is pretty NFL ready hell he's won 2 games already.

Brock 09-24-2008 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049297)
That's about how big Ryan is.....generally when a guy is 6'4 they are expected to be in the 225-240 range.
Jesus, you have to take everything to the level of absurdity. Peyton Manning doesn't weigh 240.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 10:27 AM
Mecca just likes to suck Matt Ryan off, nothing new.

Skip Towne 09-24-2008 10:28 AM
As long as we're using guys like Haggan and Englebert why not a guy like Paul Smith, former Tulsa QB. He is extremely accurate and could get us to our QBOTF. Holds the NCAA record of 14 consecutive games over 300 yds passing. Comes cheap. Currently on the Jags practice squad.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049306)
Jesus, you have to take everything to the level of absurdity. Peyton Manning doesn't weigh 240.
230..so close enough....either way Bradford needs to gain weight he's probably about 210 right now.

Brock 09-24-2008 10:28 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049312)
230..so close enough....either way Bradford needs to gain weight he's probably about 210 right now.
No, it's not "close enough". You said Bradford needs to weigh 240 to be on a level with Matt Ryan. Absurd.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5049308)
Mecca just likes to suck Matt Ryan off, nothing new.
Oh cmon, I think that's a good question, how can you love Bradford after not liking Ryan when they are frankly similar prospects other than Bradford plays on a much more talented team.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049315)
No, it's not "close enough". You said Bradford needs to weigh 240 to be on a level with Matt Ryan. Absurd.
I'm saying Sam Bradford needs to gain weight......I was just comparing him to Ryan in that line but yes he needs to atleast get to 225.

milkman 09-24-2008 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049315)
No, it's not "close enough". You said Bradford needs to weigh 240 to be on a level with Matt Ryan. Absurd.
He also said, in the quote you posted, that a 6'4" QB should weigh in the 225-240 range.

Brock 09-24-2008 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049320)
He also said, in the quote you posted, that a 6'4" QB should weigh in the 225-240 range.
That's not the post I'm talking about.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2008 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049316)
Oh cmon, I think that's a good question, how can you love Bradford after not liking Ryan when they are frankly similar prospects other than Bradford plays on a much more talented team.
Does Bradford have a habit of going cold for 3 quarters before coming alive in the 4th quarter?

milkman 09-24-2008 10:31 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5049308)
Mecca just likes to suck Matt Ryan off, nothing new.
It appears to me that he likes Stafford's potential more.

Chiefnj2 09-24-2008 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 5049311)
As long as we're using guys like Haggan and Englebert why not a guy like Paul Smith, former Tulsa QB. He is extremely accurate and could get us to our QBOTF. Holds the NCAA record of 14 consecutive games over 300 yds passing. Comes cheap. Currently on the Jags practice squad.
Tulas has a QB this year that is lighting it up. Nice system they have for generating great stats.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5049322)
Does Bradford have a habit of going cold for 3 quarters before coming alive in the 4th quarter?
Bradford is pretty much as consistent as the half-life of radon. WHAT?!

Brock 09-24-2008 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049326)
Bradford is pretty much as consistent as the half-life of radon. WHAT?!
But Matt Ryan wasn't.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:33 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5049323)
It appears to me that he likes Stafford's potential more.
He does have more upside....I think Stafford would go ahead of Ryan if they were in the same draft.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5049322)
Does Bradford have a habit of going cold for 3 quarters before coming alive in the 4th quarter?
Against the ACC.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5049337)
Against the ACC.
Are you aware that the ACC has had more players drafted than the Big 12 over the last 5 years?

They've had more defensive players drafted than any conference, that was one of the arguments for Ryan, he was doing the most against the best with the least.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049341)
Are you aware that the ACC has had more players drafted than the Big 12 over the last 5 years?
The Big 12 is the strongest conference in the nation this year.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049346)
The Big 12 is the strongest conference in the nation this year.
Yea......I don't think so.....I don't think anyone has anything on that schedule Matt Stafford is facing.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 10:40 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049341)
Are you aware that the ACC has had more players drafted than the Big 12 over the last 5 years?

They've had more defensive players drafted than any conference, that was one of the arguments for Ryan, he was doing the most against the best with the least.
ACC has talented players but their teams are dog shit.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:41 AM
I think what Hamas said is right, there's alot of glued in people on Bradford cause he's in the area with a Big 12 team.

Brock 09-24-2008 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049354)
I think what Hamas said is right, there's alot of glued in people on Bradford cause he's in the area with a Big 12 team.
And because he looks like an NFL quarterback when he plays.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049356)
And because he looks like an NFL quarterback when he plays.
Ok and he's a similar prospect to Matt Ryan, he doesn't have the best arm, he uses his head, all that.

Then you swap down to Georgia and that's a whole nother kinda prospect with the huge arm and every single physical tool you could ever ask for.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 10:44 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5049356)
And because he looks like an NFL quarterback when he plays.
Nope its bc he plays in the Big 12. :rolleyes:

JBucc 09-24-2008 10:44 AM
I don't give a shit about the Big 12 and I like Bradford a lot.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 10:45 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049360)
Then you swap down to Georgia and that's a whole nother kinda prospect with the huge arm and every single physical tool you could ever ask for.
White JaMarcus Russell

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by JBucc (Post 5049364)
I don't give a shit about the Big 12 and I like Bradford a lot.
Do you like him better than Matt Stafford or Mark Sanchez..I'm not saying I dislike Bradford I'm just saying I'm not sure he's quite the same prospect that they are.

Nightfyre 09-24-2008 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049349)
Yea......I don't think so.....I don't think anyone has anything on that schedule Matt Stafford is facing.
Georgia:
Georgia Southern
Central Michigan
South Carolina
Arizona State
Alabama
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
LSU
Florida
Kentucky
Auburn
Georgia Tech

Oklahoma:
Chattanooga
Cincinnati
Washington
TCU
Baylor
Texas
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5049368)
White JaMarcus Russell
He ain't that fat!

And he's more mobile......I think you need to watch some more of him before you make that kind of comparison.

You're basically saying every big time talent QB with a big arm is a moron.

ChiefsCountry 09-24-2008 10:46 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5049370)
Do you like him better than Matt Stafford or Mark Sanchez..I'm not saying I dislike Bradford I'm just saying I'm not sure he's quite the same prospect that they are.
You like what they look like, not what they play like.

Mecca 09-24-2008 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 5049372)
Georgia:
Georgia Southern
Central Michigan
South Carolina
Arizona State
Alabama
Tennessee
Vanderbilt
LSU
Florida
Kentucky
Auburn
Georgia Tech

Oklahoma:
Chattanooga
Cincinnati
Washington
TCU
Baylor
Texas
Kansas
Kansas State
Nebraska
Texas A&M
Texas Tech
Oklahoma State
Alabama, Florida, LSU, Auburn tops anyone on that OU schedule save maybe Texas.


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