I think that is where AA comes in handy, it gets you away from that group of friends and gives you a group of people to make friends from.

Chewing is a really disgusting habit...even as a dude it makes me disgusted.

Butch up.

Trust me...I agree. We have some butch ass lady at my work that chews. Talk about disgusting.

Good Luck SR, If you put you mind to it and really want to do it, you will get through it.

People, places, and things is what they call it. Meetings can be good, but there are entirely too many way crazy people for me to deal with that all the time. There are good people, but most are not really trustworthy.

The wife is on me to quit dipping again as well.

A friend of mine does it...he always has bottles and cans full of spit around it's just gross.

I'd rather have someone smoke and blow it in my face and I'm a non smoker than watch someone dip and spit, that's how much it bugs me.

Yup. I've been doing it for so long that it doesn't bother me, but I can see why it would bother anyone else.

That is really, really gross. Those things get absolutely rank, but I was certainly guilty of it in college. Now I'm very "clean" in my dipping. Usually do it when I'm outside. When I'm inside, I have a glass jar that I spit in, and I clean it out every night. Still a gross habit.

I get a can of dip about once a month. It's not a big habit, but the wife hates it. I keep it as clean as possible and many times buy those pouches. That stuff, like everything, is getting to be expensive as hell.

I am not a huge fan of AA

I've quit tobacco more times than I can count, sometimes with months and even multiple years of being "clean". But I've always put myself into situations to be roped back into the addiction.

I quit again Saturday. Dumped my remaining cans and just quit.

Chewing seems to be more popular than I ever imagined it was.

That's good advice. I've seen the results of that and it ain't pretty.

Wow that must be the mother of all hangovers. Don't shave your head Red.

i got married

Working manual labor, it would be very, very hard for me to quit. I don't chew all day, since I teach, but I usually have a few after work. A can lasts me a couple of weeks now. When I've worked manual labor in the past, I could do a can in a few days.

I think that's the tough part of getting into the whole bar/social thing. Quitting will mean you have to cut some ties with people you may like, due to the fact that anything social they do revolves around alcohol.

my dad said he was gonna quit the cigs. started smoking cheap cigars. said he was gonna quit drinking, drank twice as hard when hed fall of the wagon. his brain went pop at 51.


my advice. if moderation doesnt work for you,its time for a 'come to jesus' meeting with what kinda man you are and where your life is headed.

One of my carpenters participates in AA, NA, and now "Living Free".

See if you can find a Living Free program in your neck of the woods. http://www.livingfree.org/meetingloc...ode=findchurch

I smoked grass for a long time. I then just made up my mind to quit. I got rid of all the paraphernalia, and quit going to the places that increased my temptation. Grass is pretty easy compared to some other addictions, but if you have kids, keep a picture of 'em handy and ask yourself if you want to see them mirroring your behavior. We all want better things for our kids, and it should start with getting them a better version of the parent you are now.

I'd give it up, but really, kicking my ~2-4 drink a year habit is really too much to ask from one person, lol.

Now soda on the other hand, dear lord, I decided to cut down on that just last week. If I liked coffee at all it would be an easier habit to break.

Lucky for me I dont have any smoking cigs addictions. I cant believe someone would start up on that.

I do go out almost every night looking for tail and getting drunk, but other than that...

ROFL

I will say this though I am addicted to H20. Personally I think thats a good addiction though.

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/k...008/heath8.jpg

moderation is the logic behind, walking the line & toe the mark.

its what men do, in troubled times.

god knows im a rounder. i love to drink,gamble,smoke,chase women,fight all forms of vice make me come alive.

but then ive got friends and family to think about,but it boils down to me.

if youve got enough sence to know your about to step off in that hole, you got enough strength to stear clear.

nuff said.

:spock:

that shit leaving your body suuuuuucks. I get really nausous and will take a dramimine and it helps because the shit you go through with withdrawl is the same as motion sickness.

You should try CO2. I hear it really mellows you out.

i also hate the fact that it seems like I can't let go what happened during the work week unless I drink. When I was sober for those months the weekends just seemed to suck ass too. All I would think about was work

I'm already on the diet, lol.

You should be billing $125 an hour for this stuff.

you'll be all about quitting when you feel like shit, the true test is when you feel good. can you stop yourself from ****ing it all up

HAH!! My new haircut.

Sounds like you have already done the hardest part from what I understand with any addiction, and that is admit you have it. I think denial is the reason so many people go on for years before getting help. Maybe you need to "change your playground" as they say. Perhaps you are hanging with people that are enablers. It really starts with you wanting to change. If you dont really want to, you cant. Is it easy if you want to? Hell no, but it starts there. Hanging with friends that ask if they can buy you a beer cause it has been a bad day isn't good. Maybe a visit with your physician would be a good place to start. Ask if they have any advice. You are probably depressed dude.

Please tell me that you are intentionally attempting to be a caricature.

How many beers would you drink a day SR?

I'll quit with you SR, until tonight.

I decided to stop drinking so much. I got WoW and have been a gamer nerd instead of a drunk the last 2 weeks so I hope to keep this up

sounds ok to me. Day 1. The week has never been hard for me it's that damn weekend when the party is cracking

My God. Good luck, SR.

ROFL WoW is my anti-beer as well.

I was flipping through channels last week sometime. And on MTV they had some show (real life) where it showed this 22 year old kid just get drunk all day. Being all stupid and stuff. He lived at home.

Anyway his dad said he drank about a liter of vodka everyday.

Would that be about a fifth? I don't know my measurements/conversion chart.

But thats a lot. Then i flipped the channels more, because MTV sucks anyway.

Good luck to you SR. I hope you conquer your demons.

Just please don't forget the Dr thing I was talking about, the last person I knew who tried to kick it, also had the shakes issue, but ended up collapsing and they had to call the ambulance to take them in. The nurse just scolded him telling him that it was lucky he didn't kill himself.

Church is a good way to go, but remember, there are drunks there too. The most important thing is for you to get professional help and only hang with folks that really care more about your health than the fun they have

okay...

that is for being addicted like 3 or four servings a day.

pretty good website

Red, rock bottom, hit it and you will be over it - I sincerely hope you hit it before your health deteriorates too badly.
Bless you

Damn SR you got some mad problems. I would look into AA if I was you.

I did in fact get a little F-ed up this weekend though. Here is me Fri night.:thumb:

http://i309.photobucket.com/albums/k...008/heath7.jpg

With as many pictures as MV posts of himself, you'd think he was here trying to pick up one of you guys. He must have money going for him, because he's not cute (he looks like a dumbass), and he certainly isn't smart.

since when were those necessary for you...

Lets see a pic of you and see how "cute" you are....

You have to resort to meeting strange men over the internet and you are clowning on ME??? PLLLLLEAAAASEROFL

nice body midnight vulture

Alright I changed my avatar since it was offending everyone. No more flicking people off LOL.

I never claimed to be cute. And you're going on ignore.

I took you off ignore to see if you'd grown up any. Apprently not, so back you go as well.

Having candy around you will help too Red.