Also there are certain positions you don't use top 10 picks on, you don't take say a LB unless he's a pass rusher capable of 15 sacks with a top 5-10 pick or you will be ridiculously overpaying and overvaluing the position.

Alot more goes into a top 5-10 pick than just BPA.

Minus a few deep balls that he's thrown to WR's with 10 yards of separation (sounds like your knock on Bradford) he hasn't been anything special, though he hasn't been terrible either.

Again, pining for the player we had NO CHANCE to take, because he was already gone.

And had we had the chance and taken him, I'm sure you'd be giving him every excuse why he'd be sucking ass right now.

Matt Ryan has four things he wouldn't have had in KC:

A decent OL

A great running game

WR's that can actually get open

Good coaching



If KC had drafted him, the countdown to bust status would have started the second after Goodell called his name...

San Fran will not draft Beenie Wells

Well that it's then, our team is to stupid to develop a QB, we should all go be fans of other teams.

Thanks stumppy!

no way do the lions finish 'ahead' of us

Dude its the "lions"

He could do more in big games, against good teams to start.

Sure, he's got great stats against Georgia Southern and Central Michigan, then is back under 60% against decent defenses.

SC made him look pretty average, and he picked up a ton of numbers in the 2nd half of that ass-whooping Alabama laid on them...31-0 at half.

I'm NOT saying he sucks, but I'd sure like to see him play another 3 months before I declare him a cant-miss NFL QB, just because we happen to need one...

See ya.

Don't let the door his you on the ass...

Great rebuttal, by the way.

I tell you your mancrush has been average, and the best you can do is this?

Disappointing.

I'm sorry Stafford made more NFL throws in that Alabama game than I've seen from Sam Bradford in 2 years.

Some people don't even know what they are suppose to be looking for.

And hey call him my mancrush all you want, atleast he isn't a brittle failure like yours is.

Like the floating duck into triple coverage for a pick?

Whoops.

Here comes the excuse. Will it be:

a) It was towards the end of the half, it didn't matter

b) Well, sometimes you have to take a chance when you have shitty WR's

c) All of the above

Do you know what a NFL throw is....throwing to guys with 10 yards of separation isn't one.

I personally enjoy your posts because I knew before I ever read it was going to be out how the top QB prospect this year sucks and you don't want him.

To be fair, Huard IS in the NFL...

Also Sam Bradford has thrown more picks than Stafford has this year and we all know that OU has sure been playing some dominant teams right?

ROFL

No, I've never seen an NFL throw in my life. :rolleyes:

Then why are you arguing with me about which QB makes them and which one doesn't?

He's the top QB prospect in ****ING OCTOBER.

If he's still the top prospect in late April, and there aren't 15 guys at other positions that hold better value than him, I'll be all for it.

Seriously, I thought you guys might have learned a lesson after last year. Getting attached to a QB 6 months before the draft is ****ing reeruned.

God forbid someone might grade out higher than the Almighty Matthew Stafford.

Lets go for the myopic pick of Michael Oher.

Another excellent rebuttal.

I don't think you actually disputed a single thing I've said. You just deflect to something else entirely.

What do you want me to rebut that you came into the thread to basically call everyone talking about Matt Stafford stupid? Or that you really aren't a fan of taking QB's because you think it will cripple are well already crippled franchise?

You've made enough posts about this for anyone that has read them to know what you think about drafting QB's high.

I'm sorry our team is awful, people want to talk about something and drafting a QB is high on that list.

Once again, you COMPLETELY miss everything I've said.

I didn't call anyone stupid for talking about Stafford.

I DID say that it's ****ing reeruned to hitch your wagon to a QB in OCTOBER, just because we NEED one.

Christ, we need a MLB too. And a RG. And a RT. And a shit-ton of DE's. I could continue.

If people want to get this worked up over a kid in October, by all means, go nuts. But you'd think people would have learned a lesson from doing the EXACT SAME THING over Brohm and Woodson this time last year. There's too much that can happen between now and April to sit here and say that we MUST take Player "X".

I'm going to laugh my balls off when Stafford isn't even the first QB taken in April...


Like I said: If late April rolls around and Stafford grades out worth a Top 5 pick, is available, and there isn't an obvious better player available when we pick, I'm all for it.

It doesn't really matter if hes the first one taken, what matters is how he produces in the NFL.

Dude its October, we suck ass, this gives us something to look forward too.

Give me a QB that's gonna go ahead of him...the only 3 QB's worthy of high picks are underclassmen...

And newflash you don't take MLB's OG's or RT's with top 10 picks....

Tell that to the people that say you HAVE to have a R1 QB in this league to be successful.

I wonder...

If Stafford was to "pull a Brohm" and fall out of the 1st round:

1) Would people here still want him in a later round?

2) If yes, why? It's already been "proven" that you have to have a R1 QB to win...

I'm not claiming to know, considering there's still THREE MONTHS of the season to be played, and another THREE MONTHS of workouts/combine/etc before the draft.

Just a side note - why the **** is Houston not drafting an Offensive lineman with every pcik until Round 6, from this year forward through 2012? God that's the dumbest fuggin franchise for not understanding the importance of the interior line, geesh.

There are 2 ways I see Stafford dropping past the #1 overall pick.

1. He's hurt.
2. The franchise drafting already has a franchise QB. (at which point they wouldn't be drafting #1 now would they?)

In fact, I think that the #1 pick is going to have a high amount of trade interest this year simply because of Stafford.

Mecca's sarcasm meter is broken, I see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r96vm...eature=related
Check at the :15 mark of this video.

At the :37, :55, 1:30 marks of the bama game.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Py_8lk0GpUo

Maybe the 1:00, 1:25, 2:30, 3:12, 3:54, 4:06
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXbbg6PJmcM

mock me gently.... mock me slowly.
take it easy, don't you know......

I honestly think this is a terrific idea...although ill be surprised if Coffman falls into the 2nd. And Daniel should be a RND 2 pick...hey it works in Madden :)

Round 2 is about 4 rounds higher than Daniel gets drafted.

He's a duel threat. Probably the first QB off the board, with Tebow right behind.

we have alot of stinky teams we need to pass to get the top pick


i have confidence we can do it though

We really need those 0 and 1 win teams to win a few.

say no to the one year wonder with raw potential. If any DE is the 1st one off the board it should be Selvie.

Don't limit yourself. Wish for three first round picks.

There is a flip side to this coin...

Prospects are put on the map, are widely considered top flight, and then people spend 6 months tearing them down to prove that they know something.

Look at Philip Merling, Brandon Flowers, Sam Baker, or Desean Jackson from last year for examples of this.

Aren't we wasting a lot of time talking about a QB in the draft? Especially the Bradfords, Staffords, Tebows etc?

The Chiefs game will never feature a down field QB with the current coaching and GM staff.

Picking one of them is an aboslute waste of a good QB that will not have success due to the run run dink pass punt strategy.

Trade down and focus on line men.

We're getting a whole new regime. New front office and new coaching staff.

That is the best news Chiefs fan can have at this time.:clap:

link?

that would be a great pick for the colts. I would worry bout how to get the ball to maclin on most teams, but not the colts, indoors with manning.

top pick in draft + empty Arrowhead = new regime.

It ain't happening during the year, once the season is over we're going to see huge changes.

I have a lot of respect for Herm in one aspect, he went out and convinced the owner to do the very thing that would cost him his job, because it was the proper way to do things. He gets a pat on the back for that, right before he gets a kick in the butt for his piss poor coaching. :D

The front office has to sell hope in the off season, and keeping everything status quo will result in a HUGE drop in season ticket holders in time for a new Arrowhead. Clark can't have that, so he's going to have to make the move. I'm sure he'd like to keep Carl around to open the stadium, but he'll probably do something else, like put him in the Chiefs hall of fame for the opener or something.

If he's been fired I actually bet he'd get a huge round of applause when they announce him as 'former' GM and President of the Chiefs.