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HC_Chief 09-11-2001 10:16 AM

DaWolf - a very good friend of mine moved to the US from Iran about the same time... for the same reason :)

Only the ignorant would do the crap you mentioned. I know I'd be royally pissed if someone did something like that to my bud or any member of his family. There are stupid people everywhere - I hope you don't run into any this time around.

stevieray 09-11-2001 10:16 AM

The most scary thought is that this is Americans.

Chief Henry 09-11-2001 10:16 AM

Is it one plane down in Pennsylvania or two planes?

Gaz 09-11-2001 10:16 AM

Bigoted buttheads...
 

DaWolf-

No matter where you draw the line, there are ignorant, hate-filled people on either side. It ain't right, it ain't fair and I have no idea what we more rational folks can do about it., other than preach against it.

xoxo~
Gaz
Thinks good Americans of Arab descent are in for a rough time.

DaWolf 09-11-2001 10:17 AM

Quote:

In a free and open society, you cannot prevent this kind of thing. The only way for a free society to discourage terrorism is to make the retribution so overwhelming that terrorists are not willing to pay the cost.
That's easier said than done. IMO anything you do short of going to the source only strengthens their resolve. Remember, these guys are wackos who think God is reserving a place for them up there in his court for doing crap like this, so they pretty much welcome death. The only way to slow it down is to go right to the source and elimitate it, and the only way to stop it is to educate ignorant people...

Iowanian 09-11-2001 10:17 AM

GAZ,

25 nations had offices in the WTC buildings. The world economy will be affected from this...not just the US. I think We may be able to russel up some support.

We can financially and or militarily cut the legs out from under any Foe who gets in our way.

Its Time for us to "call in some payback" from the many many countries we've rebuilt, defended with blood of our brothers, fathers and friends, fed in famine, doctored from disease, and protected from oppression. Its time for people to "$h!t or get off the pot".....Anyone who turns their back on us in a situation like this should be left to starve, die, and feed the buzzards with their corpses.

The Blood of my family has been spilled to defend all corners of the world....Don't get in the way of us Defending our OWN HOME!!!!

"Eye for an Eye, Tooth for a tooth."
"I will come down on thee with Furious Anger...

~any of that ring a bell?

pink 09-11-2001 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KPhobia
Most of the Energy Companies in Houston have closed. The Houston & area school districts have close.
The Mayor just reported that all of these closings have been voluntary and at the discretion of the corporations. The school districts have not closed, but have given the parents the option to pick up their children.

The Governor just reported that there is no threat as of this time to Texas. Texans should continue with their normal schedule.

As if nothing was happening???

BigOlChiefsfan 09-11-2001 10:19 AM

Wolf,
I'm serious. Wear CHIEFS gear the next day or two.

NaptownChief 09-11-2001 10:20 AM

Bob Dole is most likely correct...We have all seen it before to lesser degrees...No political or country affiliations so we do nothing...That is horse $hit...If you allow them in your country then you are affiliated and are condoning this action. If you don't do everything in your power to bring them to justice then justice should be served on your whole country...

After a few days of the masses going on with their lives they will conveniently forget about the lives that were taken and say "we shouldn't kill more innocent people by bombing certain countries...blah, blah, blah..." Before you start saying that, just pretend it was your children and family member in the WTC....

We have to set a precendent that ANYONE who contributes to a terrorist groups ability to function is held fully accountable..

Phobia 09-11-2001 10:21 AM

For those curious, Pink is my g/f. Please treat her kindly. :D She's read here off & on for a long time, but I think that was her first post. Her last name is Pinkerton, thus "pink" as a handle.

HC_Chief 09-11-2001 10:21 AM

An US Ambassador on NBC just called this an act of war and called for full military response to whoever was responsible.

Mr. Laz 09-11-2001 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tommykat
They are just showing the dancing and happiness in Palestine...:eek: :mad:

pieces of dog cr@p... that's where most of this terrorist stuff starts.

wouldn't be upset if we made palestine a waste dump.

we need a place to dump our radioactive waste, don't we !?!?!

burn 'em!!!

NaptownChief 09-11-2001 10:23 AM

I'm glad you explained the Pink handle...:D

Rausch 09-11-2001 10:24 AM

One Boeing 747 was flown along the highway reportedly for 8 minutes, assumedly to avoid radar, then climbed back up in altitude to cause the second impoact on the other world trade tower.


It has also been reported that this means that American pilots were not in in control of the plane. American pilots are instructed to sacrifice themselves if thier plane is trying to be used to as an offensive weapon against military or civilian targets.

These were pilots from another country. This was a well planned, well orchestrated attack.


This does not seem like a group of a few thousand idiots, this is a planned military offensive...

Lzen 09-11-2001 10:25 AM

Found this on another message board.

Date: 9/11/01 10:15:29 AM EDT
Author: dtemblay


With the failure of America to attend the Durban conference to promote anti-semitism, Yasser Arafat has perpetrated a new Pearl harbor on America, sparked not by economic issues but by religious hatred. This also is a day that will live in infamy. The infernal engine of state-sponsored terrorism has reached a new level of perversity. If anyone ever doubted the true evil he represents, there can be no doubts now. It is time for the United States of America and her allies to declare total war on these despicable cowards. Anyone who asists or defends them must be treated as an enemy of the state. There can be no neutrals in this assault against humanity. It is time once again to raise the terrible swift sword against our enemies.

DaWolf 09-11-2001 10:26 AM

Just to be clear, while I disagree we should start a war at this point, I totally agree, countries who harbor or support terrorists like this need to be held accountable. For example, if we find out that Iran provided funding for this group or something like that, then they do become the enemy, they do need to answer for that, and they better be willing to point out who it was. I don't think bombing them or another country solves the problem,
but obviously, something would need to be done...

Rausch 09-11-2001 10:27 AM

Arrafat came on a news conference, scared out of his mind, and did everything but beg us not to whipe him off the planet.


He's a piece of ****, but it was obvious he didn't do this. The guy was about ready to cry, he couldn't even hardly speak he was soo terrified.

Phobia 09-11-2001 10:28 AM

DaWolf,

If Iran or any other country provided ANY amount of assistance to these psycos, then her leadership needs to experience an explosive supposatory courtesy of GDub. No questions asked.

Rausch 09-11-2001 10:29 AM

Mayor of New York is pondering weather or not to declare a state of marshal law....

He's going to meet with the governor....

Gaz 09-11-2001 10:30 AM

Whomever it is, wherever they go...
 

DaWolf-

I am not talking about the cannon fodder who fly planes into buildings. I am talking about the brains and money behind the scheme.

And perhaps I have not been clear about "overwhelming." The price must be set so high that no one is willing to carry out a terrorist attack. I am talking about killing in mass numbers, salting their fields and burying their dead with pigs. The terrorist planners must blanche in horror when they imagine raising arms against American citizens. If we truly want to ensure that terrorism ends, we must be ruthless and terrible in our retribution.

Easier said than done? Of course. But it can be done if we have the will to endure the consequences.

xoxo~
Gaz
Weighing the alternatives.

nmt1 09-11-2001 10:30 AM

Here's a good article.

http://www.nationalreview.com/derbys...re091101.shtml

pink 09-11-2001 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KPhobia
For those curious, Pink is my g/f. Please treat her kindly. :D <snip>
because we all know (especially a selected few this past weekend in KC) that she can't handle herself ... ;)

Rausch 09-11-2001 10:31 AM

We should act swiftly on this, but most importantly, we need to know WITH 100% CERTIANTY who is responsible.

If W knows one thing, it's how to effectively eliminate people...:rolleyes:

DaWolf 09-11-2001 10:31 AM

I don't know why we've dealt with Arafat for so long (although I thought I heard earlier he had condemned this attack, maybe i heard wrong). Dude is always on one side trying to talk peace, but on the other side not lifting a damn finger to stop the dumbasses who call themselves "Hamas." He's a coward...

Phobia 09-11-2001 10:32 AM

KCJohnny,

I removed your post with the idea that you might not be thinking clearly with all the excitement. If you are certain that none of what you disclosed required any clearance, feel free to repost it and I'll leave it alone.

Fat Elvis 09-11-2001 10:35 AM

KCJ-


Whatever differences we may of had in the past, our prayers are with you and our servicemen today.

keg in kc 09-11-2001 10:35 AM

Oh my god.

I don't watch TV or listen to the radio while I work, so I didn't know about this until now, when I stopped to eat lunch.

I can't believe this is happening, and I can't believe the way it happened. I never in my life thought there'd be a war on american soil, but today is it. We're under attack.

I can't even think straight. This is beyond belief.

KCJohnny 09-11-2001 10:36 AM

KPhobia:
It is standard operation procedure for us to react this way, it should not come as a surprise to our enemies. I appreciate your vigilance in protecting sensitive information. I will not go into any detail other than to say we can put 3,000 paratroopers, A-10 tank killers and air land mechanized forces within 18 hours in the back yard of any nation on earth. I would be terrified if I were an enemy of the USA.

KCJ
Doesn't know anything other than what the media is reporting...

HC_Chief 09-11-2001 10:37 AM

KCJ - when you get shipped out, strap your kevlar on tight & stay safe! :D

Bob Dole 09-11-2001 10:37 AM

Amen, brother
 
Quote:

Let nobody think that Americans are incapable of facing this foe and defeating him. Let nobody think that this country is any less able to "face the naked days" than she was in 1861, in 1917, in 1941 and 1950. We shall rise to this. We shall take our revenge. We shall absorb these blows, and strike back a hundred times harder. Let America's enemies crow today: Tomorrow they will tremble, and weep.

Phobia 09-11-2001 10:37 AM

Quote:

I am talking about killing in mass numbers, salting their fields and burying their dead with pigs.
I'd love bring those responsible to the US, fry them, and bury their remains on a newly created National Outhouse. Visitors to the site would have the opportunity to excrete upon the remains of the terrorists.

KCJohnny 09-11-2001 10:37 AM

Airborne!
 
We're ready!
KCJ

DaWolf 09-11-2001 10:38 AM

Gaz,
My sense is, you do that, and if you don't get them in the process, then you're just justifying what they've done in their minds. Remember, these terrorists are for the most part wackos with an ignorant, skewed outlook on the world. I mean, if they feel this is a holy war and they are destined to stand at the side of God when it is all over, no price is going to be too high for them. Seeing their fellow countrymen dead or things like that aren't going to sway these guys, it'll just push them to do more. These are people who are flying planes into our buildings or strapping bombs onto themselves and blowing themselves up or attacking our naval vessels with no fear of death. If it comes down to Armageddon, us killing them and them killing us, if they have the belief that in death they are martyrs, they have no fear of death...

47mack 09-11-2001 10:38 AM

What do you all honestly think the U.S. will do?

Clint in Wichita 09-11-2001 10:38 AM

Someone should start another thread...this one's getting pretty big.

stevieray 09-11-2001 10:39 AM

Today, we are all brothers. This is a huge wakeup cal....for the world.l

Mr. Laz 09-11-2001 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BRAD_CAUDLE
We should act swiftly on this, but most importantly, we need to know WITH 100% CERTIANTY who is responsible.

If W knows one thing, it's how to effectively eliminate people...:rolleyes:

i disagree completely... part of the reason these terriorist pigs are so brave is because they KNOW that the u.s. will always act politically and with tons of restraint.

lets the big dogs eat!!!!!!!

anyone that is ANYWAY included in any of these terrorist organizations shouldn't wake up tomorrow.

maybe these guys wouldn't be so quick to take credit for all this cr@p if wholesale terrorist slaughter happened EVERY time something happened.

these groups would be scrambling to "deny responsibility" to save their own necks.

if i was george w bush, i would give the CIA,FBI and NSA cart blanche to do whatever is necessary to handle the problem.

and i would make it abundantly clear that a bunch of court cases would
NOT be at all necessary.

Chief Henry 09-11-2001 10:39 AM

KC Johnny,

To you and all our military and your families. Prayers are with you.

Vivat Jesus.

Rausch 09-11-2001 10:39 AM

It's been confirmed that one of the planes that struck the trade towers was being flown by someone other than the pilot.


No nationality or race was identified....

Logical 09-11-2001 10:40 AM

Kphobia,

I appreciate you taking care of KC Johnny this way. John is an emotional person. You have probably done him a great favor.

Jim
Idle threats do no good, covert action is required. Hopefully there are those like Ollie North lining up to do their finest as we need them most in times such as these.

Clint in Wichita 09-11-2001 10:40 AM

I started another thread. We should probably start using it.

Phobia 09-11-2001 10:40 AM

KCJohnny,

Ok - I was initially alarmed, but then, all my senses are heightened today. I'm so riled, if an armed forces recruiter walked down the street, I'd probably beg him to take me back into the military.

Best of luck to you and your armed brethren.

Bob Dole 09-11-2001 10:40 AM

Rumors...
 
Rumor is that Dubya is about an hour away from here at Barksdale AFB.

Maybe Bob Dole should drive down and try to have a chat.

Alton deFlat 09-11-2001 10:41 AM

This may have already been posted, but I don't think any terrorist organization could have orchestrated this on they're own. Some foreign nation or nations HAD to be involved. Just my opinion!!
This is the most horrific thing to happen in my lifetime. I just can't understand why other human beings can be so terrible.

AustinChief 09-11-2001 10:44 AM

Locked this thread....

btw the BBS server is due a reboot... which I was about to do today... it only takes the board down for a couple of minutes... but I'll wait now... That is one reason you'll see a few more hiccups. I'll look at setting auto reboots up for once a week... so that we don't see future probs.

--Kyle


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