Only if he can stab himself in the back..... ****ing weasel...

I guess we'll agree to disagree.

In New York, he made the "mistake" of not going for it on 4th & 1. There was no guarantee that they would have made the first down, nor is there a guarantee that they would have scored. But I guess in your mind, that's an error on Herm's part. Running at Kris Jenkins with Kolby Smith? Who's going to win that battle 90% of the time?

Versus Tampa Bay, the defense fell apart without the services of DJ and Flowers. The Special Teams suck because there's no depth across the entire roster and they'll continue to suck until the roster is rebuilt.

In San Diego, are you blaming Herm? They went for the win. I guess you think he erred and they should have kicked the extra point (even though he already missed one PAT) and attempt to win in OT?

And last weekend, where did Herm err? Surtain gave up the TD. Bowe fumbled. The kicker missed a 16 yarder and a 50 yarder. Where did Herm err?

I guess we just see these games much differently.

:huh:

They both are teh suck and both need to be removed...

I read this kind of stuff everyday. Herms track record speaks for itself. The guy is a horrendous gameday coach and a pretty blah evaluator of talent, just some think he's great at it because of what was here before.

It's also widely reported that Carl's greatest fault is giving TOO MUCH control over personnel decisions to his coaches.

This was undoubtedly the case with Grandpa, but now you're claiming that Carl was ruling with an iron fist (Edit: with Herm, sorry). Not hardly.

Look, I believe that Herm was hired with the mandate to try to win with that decaying '06 squad. From '07 on, this thing has been Herm's baby, IMO. And it sucks. Again, for me it's all about what he's done (read: hasn't done) with the defense.

Carl has been quoted as saying he signed McIntosh and he alone thought they could "win with the old guys".

I'll be happy when Peterson delivers his final speech after the season's over so these issues can be cleared up once and for all.

Who keeps putting McIntosh out there on the field?

If he would of kept his man pleaser shut instead of acting like a pompus ass when he arrived, Mr God ****ing gidt to the Tampon 2 and will correct everything DV did wrong.. It wouldnt be so bad. But the ****ing loser ass douche nozzle, opened his cock holster and hasnt lived up the his self proclaimed hype of being a defensive guru....

Uh, don't you think that if there was someone better on the squad, they'd be out there?

For ****sakes, Johnston was out there before he was injured and he was a 7th rounder.

Peterson, as usual, did nothing to prepare for the departure of the "old" offensive lineman.

Has to be Carl....:thumb:

I know he fell on the sword after last season, taking responsibility for the poor line play, but that's what leaders are supposed to do. Herm, if you're reading this, make a note, since you NEVER ****ing do this.

Anyway, let's take this at face value. But this still doesn't help your argument. In other words, do you agree that we're in "full rebuilding mode"? Ok. What the **** has Herm really done differently with the right side of the line. Jones? Taylor, an actual young guy, can't get on the field. McIntosh, teh suck whom Carl supposedly forced on Herm, is still playing.

The rebuild is a farce. Donnie Edwards is still limping around at LB. Young players aren't getting on the field on the O-line. Remember the Barry Richardson man love on this board?

We've been sold a bag of goods.

More or less by proxy.

That pretty much says "My roster sucks" when McIntosh is the best right tackle on your team.

If there is something you can rail on Herm extremely hard for it is this defense. Derrick Johnson hasn't developed to being any better, guys like Hali and Pollard who are in their 3rd years are crap, he hasn't fixed anything we're in the same spot just the shitty guys aren't as old.

I can't stress enough how much I love the fact that the reerun fringe around here is now criticizing Herm for "stabbing Carl in the back" by going over his head to force the sort of changes onto this team that have been needed for a decade.

Why stop there? Just finish the job and make your sig say "Hi, I'm a complete ****ing idiot" in big red letters.

Wait. Don't respond so quickly so that I can be the first to make the point. WTF.

And Herm has done very little to fix it either... Hell he has spent and spent on the DL and it blows goats nuts 90% of the time.

Why is Taylor good enough to fill in for Albert at LT, but not good enough to oust McIntosh?

Okay where do I sign up....

I will blame everything from global warming to aids on Herm... I dont care.

You have chickens?

Remember that the line is: it takes 3 years to develop a D-lineman. Surprisingly, you don't hear that line very much anymore out of 1 Arrowhead.

I'd like to know why Herm gets this hit as a great drafter or talent guy when they say you can judge drafts after 3 years and 3 years ago was his first draft and by all intents and purposes that draft should get a total F.

You voted for Obama, huh?

:shrug: What surprises me is that they went with Turley and Welborne instead of going out last off season and even attempting to replace them.

Yeah!!! Who's ****ing who now?!? By a minute. Suck it.

Because he doesn't have the prototypical size to play RT, dummy.

He'd he much better suited to play guard....uh, wait a minute.

What?

Nope actually I didnt, but OK is a republican state, I could of voted for Jesus himself and the electoral votes went to the Republicans...

You know, Rerun, I completely respect you for admitting that. A lot of guys feel the same way you do and won't actually own up to it, instead pretending like they're being objective.

Yeah, our ****ing bad. Congratulations, we're now qualified to take someone's job at Arrowhead. I'll contact Clark tomorrow for us.

I agree, though I will say it's completely fair to add a year or two to that total when said players are being coached by ****ing reeruns.

Who told you that? If someone tells me a guy is to small to be a OT then says they can play guard I would literally ask them if they drool...

And the reason he doesn't play for the guy who asked is because Herms dumbass thinks it's better to have the same 5 guys play together than switch it up. They harped on that all during preseason 1 unit of 5 guys and how that hurt them last year.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

You're not stupid if you can yell. That's the threshold.

You know exactly who said it. He's been posting in this thread.

Said he's be better suited at guard or center.

The irony being, we have speed bumps at both positions, and Taylor STILL can't get on the field.

He's not a prototypical right tackle. He's not heavy enough and isn't a power tackle, which is necessary on the right side.

Personally, I think he'll step in when Waters retires and the Chiefs won't miss a beat.

I didnt buy into Herm being a great defensive mind and excellent talent mastermind that he was labelled when he arrived...

So far, major disappointment, IF ANYTHING, ANYTHING he shoud of been able to fix this defense, his mouth told us so. We are a franchise worse defense. I am sick of all the excuses, injury excuses and lack of talent because he sucks at drafting OL and DL.... Dorsey was a sure thing and a immediate impact player according to the Chiefs and Herm...

Winners always find away to win, Losers look for excuses and blame everyone else.

Ah, my mistake.

**** these guys then.

They should be Pro Bowlers by now with all the screaming going on at practice.

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You have Clarks number? Dude, you are rocking!

Can I be your friend?

Are you disagreeing with me about Taylor?

The Chiefs HAVE played him right guard in certain situations. He's received a holding call and an offsides call at right guard.

IF the Chiefs didn't have Albert or Waters, Taylor would be on the field.

Putting a guy you think is smallish and not strong enough to play OT at guard is really smart when teams are going to the 340lb DT...

Yeah, anyone can fix a defense when you trade away your best player.

EVERYONE knows that.

I havent changed my stance on Herm from day one, I dont trust him to be honest, he has no self respect or any integerity... IF he had any of those, he would accept responsiblity, yet year after year, his bus looks like a meat grinder...

Its sad and troubling to say the least.

So then you're of the opinion that Taylor doesn't belong on the field anywhere?

He's 6'3, 295 and from all accounts, he's not a beast in the weight room.

So where do you play him?

So he's only capable of playing on the left side?

Because we have jack-****ing-shit at C, RG and RT, yet the kid only gets spot duty.

At this point in the year, he should be starting SOMEWHERE.

You play your best 5 OLmen.

You can't tell me with a straight face that Taylor isn't at least our 3rd or 4th best OLman.

The season ended 7 weeks ago, get him on the ****ing field and see what the **** he can do.

You are aware that they are two different positions and require a different skill set and body type, right?

He's filled in at right tackle and right guard this season. Has he impressed you? He hasn't impressed me.

At left tackle, I thought he was outstanding.

Excuses, there are always excuses for Herm...

Carl did this, we traded this, our team lacks talent, you cant fix a team in 3 years, blah blah blah blah blah.....

Like I said, Winners will find a way to win, Losers make excuses and blames everyone else.

Just for once I would like Herm to step and say, You know what? This game is on me, My decessions cost this team the game, I am sorry and will resolve the issue... I am willing to accept responsibility....

But if you believe Herm has the integerity to stand up and accept blame, I have some chickens to sell you....

It's hard to impress anyone when you get a series here and there.

ZERO continuity.

And FWIW, he showed more in very limited duty than McIntosh, Jones or Smith have shown all year...

Also, Ryan Harris is one of the best young RT in the league.

His size?

6'4" 300 pounds.

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But the older people at RG or RT arent impressing any of us either, so what does it hurt to get time on the field?

Is this that accountability thing that Herm often references? Hmm...now doesn't that seem ironic. Isn't one of his favorite lines, "Players need to make plays."? Translation: "I didn't do it! Don't look at me! They were prepared! I can't coach 'em and catch it, too!"

So let me get this straight: The Chiefs are playing every young guy on the roster that's ready to play but in your opinion, they're not playing Herb because why again?

It doesn't make sense. It's just like those people clamoring for Barry Richardson. If either were ready to handle the chore of starting full-time, they'd be out there.

And FWIW, I like Smith better than Jones and Smith better than the 'Wanger at center.

Taylor has been getting time at both positions but apparently, it's not enough for some.

Don't agree.

Cottam needs more reps. I realize that the absence of Gonzo for a series or two might cause Thigpen to piss himself, but we have more pants in the locker room. Charles needs more touches. LJ might get pissed, but I have a blow-up doll that he could toss/slap around when the trainer is looking for new pants for our #4. I ask only that he wipe her off when he's done.

If Morgan can't get on the field a bit more with the impressive dual of Page and Pollard, well, that pick is looking like shit.

Exactly.... It really is disappointing that the leader of this team just gives up on his players to protect himself... I guess its anything to save his own skin...

You give far too much credit to this coaching staff to maximize talent.

Tamba Hali basically licked balls for several weeks before this genius staff thought it would be a good idea to put him back into his most comfortable spot.

Do you agree that Taylor has more upside and potential than McIntosh?

Oh that's funny, your on a roll tonight

You're right, it doesn't make sense.

Nothing this staff does makes sense.

DeJuan Morgan was universally thought of by scouts as a R1 talent.

Yet, he can't find the field, and Jon ****ing McGraw can.

Does that make sense?

Why the **** is our 5th overall draft pick playing at the goddamn nose, while Tyler is playing the undertackle?

Does THAT make sense?

I have ZERO confidence that this coaching staff could find their ass with both hands and a map, much less get people on the field to get some experience in a wasted season, or play them in the correct ****ing position to begin with.

Isnt Jon McGraws wife and Herms wife best buddies?

Swingers. Clearly.

Didn't Adrian Jones play for Herm in New York?

If you can't see the shitty performance of those two ****tards, and not think Herm plays favorites - then I have some ocean-front property I'd like to sell you in Olathe.

If it wasn't for Herm Jon McGraw wouldn't even be in the damn league, he's on the team cause he's a family friend.

At right tackle?

No.

Does that property include chickens or roosters?

And yet people bitched about DV...

Yep, total sense. And I'm not disagreeing with the examples you've given.

But in this particular case, I'm not convinced by any stretch of the imagination, that Herb Taylor is the long term solution at right tackle.

As for your example, Rudy Niswanger is 6'5 but that doesn't make him Kevin Mawae.

At RG?

Maybe not long term, but in the short term, having him on the field would be more benefical to a potential long term...

As a tackle and I agree he ****ing sucks.

That's doesn't mean that there's someone better on the roster. I'd like to think that there's someone better, but that doesn't make it so.

I don't buy that.

He's already filled in for Albert on several occasions. If Albert were to go down for any length of time again, who's going to back him up?

McIntosh.

Personally, I'd rather see Herb taking snaps at right guard or right tackle to determine whether or not he's a long-term solution at either, instead of forcing him to play and having McIntosh back up a rookie.

Taylor at RG then...

Honey Badgers.

Cant disagree with that, but having him on the bench isnt the best solution if we are in a true rebuilding youth movement...

Hell they have bitched about that for 3 days on the radio...

Horny Badgers?

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While I agree with the Hali example (WTF where they thinking, anyway? Gunther's a dumb****) to date, Taylor has looked more "comfortable" at left tackle than on the right side.

On the right side, he's jumpy and misses his blocks.

From what I've seen, he's a left side lineman.

Look, you don't play a guy out of position just because he's young. That doesn't make any sense.

We're talking about ONE position here. Not the entire squad. It's clear that the Chiefs are trying him on the right side in hopes that he'll lock a position down.

So far, he hasn't.

And as far as KC Sportsradio is concerned, I stopped listening to those hacks more than 5 years ago. Those guys wouldn't be able to participate in a meaningful thread on the 'Planet. They're imbeciles.

I'm off to bed, guys.

I have a final at 7, 9 and 11 tomorrow.

Gotta hit the rack.

Enjoy your discussion...

Just question Dane? I notice that its alwasy Petersons fault for the talent, now its gunthers fault for Hali?

Why the freak do we even need a HC when he doesnt have the spine to correct the issues that are dragging him down?

This is probably the most inept coaching staff ever assembled.

Finished off finals today.. Wahoo!