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dtebbe 12-30-2008 04:37 PM

WOW! The Rat just got PAID! $20 mil!

He's a great coach, will have a job tomorrow if he wants it.

DT

Simply Red 12-30-2008 04:37 PM

MAKE IT HAPPEN CARL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1THOUSAND!1!1HUNDRED11DOLLARSAND11CENTS!!!

Buck 12-30-2008 04:37 PM

PLEASE NO COWHER

kregger 12-30-2008 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341209)
Shanahan is an awful player personnel guy.

He is a great coach.

He should absolutely be considered here when the new GM signs on.

At least he knew to get rid of Portis instead of handing him the keys to the bank.

the Talking Can 12-30-2008 04:37 PM

shanahan has been treading water for a decade....firing assistants and signing one terrible FA after another while going no where...

he is way past his prime...he needs a break

no way do i want him in kc

i'd rather have cowher, it that were the choice

Mr. Laz 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

i don't want him as GM/HC though

he needs a GM to keep a leash

KCChiefsMan 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

wow! that's crazy

suds79 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5341227)
seems like he values free agency more than the draft and I don't think that's how you win in today's NFL.

That's true. Good point.

Sure-Oz 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

He is a great coach, just keep him at that, and he will get a job fast and yes we should consider him

Iowanian 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5341167)
i'd take that POS in a heartbeat

http://health.indiamart.com/gifs2/vomiting.jpg

Frazod 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5341159)
Why? He's not a Bronco any longer.

If Al Qaida cut bin Laden, I wouldn't want him as president.

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

Pioli and McDaniels are going to end up in Cleveland...

I wonder if we make Polian our GM if he keeps Herm...after all, Tony fuggin' Dungy is the head coach in Indianapolis.

BigRedChief 12-30-2008 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suds79 (Post 5341220)
If we don't get him, fine. But for people to flame away about the idea of even considering him are idiots.

Take away the name and hatred for a second.

If you could hire a coach who was a 2 SB winner and is known for having an offensive running system where you an pretty much pencil in a 1200+ yard back (if they don't rotate) would you not be interested?

And just what has he won without John Elway?

tk13 12-30-2008 04:39 PM

I think he's a good coach. Wouldn't give him personnel control though.

Ultra Peanut 12-30-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Braincase (Post 5341211)
Norv Turner... the Dean of AFC West coaches.

Hahahahahaha. Sneak into the playoffs at 8-8 to save your job and look back as everyone else falls behind you. That has to be surreal.

Bwana 12-30-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carlota69 (Post 5341224)
**** Gruden. I wonder if Herm is next?

No shit

luv 12-30-2008 04:39 PM

I bumped a thread Claythan started there a few days ago pimping Herm. Some guy said that Shannahan would not go until he was ready.

Shox 12-30-2008 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 5341235)
i don't want him as GM/HC though

he needs a GM to keep a leash


I think he is a pretty damn good head coach. His problem was trying to be the GM and coach.

A good GM to feed him his talent and he would be a great coach.

Ultra Peanut 12-30-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5341242)
If Al Qaida cut bin Laden, I wouldn't want him as president.

Yeah, but that's only because we don't have the right personnel to run his scheme.

Dr. Johnny Fever 12-30-2008 04:40 PM

Garcia Bronco said this had no chance of happening.

kregger 12-30-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5341245)
And just what has he won without John Elway?

And what did Elway win without TD?

kstater 12-30-2008 04:40 PM

This is on a faster pace than the Carl is fired thread.

Brock 12-30-2008 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kregger (Post 5341254)
And what did Elway win without TD?

Several AFC championships.

the Talking Can 12-30-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kregger (Post 5341254)
And what did Elway win without TD?

carry his team to the superbowl

Shox 12-30-2008 04:41 PM

Acutally I would say he is a great offensive coach. His D has sucked for a long time.

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:41 PM

The only problem I have with Cowher is...

He used to be on the perennial hot seat in Pittsburgh until he won that Super Bowl...then he went out on top the year after when they underachieved and now everyone (including himself) thinks he's this unbelievably great coach...is he going to come into town and be arrogant and complacent and not work his ass off and think he can get by just because he's Bill Cowher?

I rather see a first time guy like Harbaugh/Smith/Sparano who are going to work their asses off in every phase of being a head coach because this has been their life long dream and they want to be great...not Cowher who is (or at least thinks) already great.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:41 PM

It just amazes me that Herman Edwards continues to have a job.

There is no GM I want here that thinks that Herm should stay.

luv 12-30-2008 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luv (Post 5341250)
I bumped a thread Claythan started there a few days ago pimping Herm. Some guy said that Shannahan would not go until he was ready.

http://www.orangemane.com/BB/showthread.php?t=75405

triple 12-30-2008 04:42 PM

most overrated coach in recent memory.

congrats on the success 10 years ago, but the guy had made gaffe after gaffe with free agents and draft picks in recent years.

this season he won 8 games in one of the worst divisions in football ever but that's probably a 6 win team otherwise.

i congratulate Denver for being forward looking and having the courage to make the right move even if it may not be popular.

Mr. Laz 12-30-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shox (Post 5341251)
I think he is a pretty damn good head coach. His problem was trying to be the GM and coach.

A good GM to feed him his talent and he would be a great coach.

agreed

kregger 12-30-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5341256)
Several AFC championships.

That ring ain't as purty though.

Donger 12-30-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5341242)
If Al Qaida cut bin Laden, I wouldn't want him as president.

Meh.

Shox 12-30-2008 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341262)
It just amazes me that Herman Edwards continues to have a job.

There is no GM I want here that thinks that Herm should stay.


Great point.

the Talking Can 12-30-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341262)
It just amazes me that Herman Edwards continues to have a job.

There is no GM I want here that thinks that Herm should stay.

Herm must have pictures of Clark having a blowjob party with his soccer team

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shox (Post 5341260)
Acutally I would say he is a great offensive coach. His D has sucked for a long time.

No doubt about this...

BUT...

Shanahan is another one of those stubborn coaches who believes in his way and only his way...if you don't think he had a hand in those horrible defenses then you don't think Herm had a hand in our R2P2 horrible offenses the past few years.

suds79 12-30-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5341245)
And just what has he won without John Elway?

Nothing.

He hasn't found that franchise QB since John. But at least he understands that you have to have that guy to win it.

I'm not saying hire him. Don't get me wrong. I just don't get the people who flame on the idea that he could be a canidate... 2 SBs

Donger 12-30-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 5341245)
And just what has he won without John Elway?

Since Elway retired after the 1998-99 season, the Broncos have gone 91-69 (.568) in the regular season, have won only one division title in 10 years and are 1-4 in the postseason.

Is that better than the Chiefs during the last eight years?

the Talking Can 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by triple (Post 5341265)
most overrated coach in recent memory.

congrats on the success 10 years ago, but the guy had made gaffe after gaffe with free agents and draft picks in recent years.

this season he won 8 games in one of the worst divisions in football ever but that's probably a 6 win team otherwise.

i congratulate Denver for being forward looking and having the courage to make the right move even if it may not be popular.

this

kc rush 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

If the Chargers flame out in the first round of the playoffs, would it be conceivable that every coach in the AFC West is replaced this year?

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 5341272)
Herm must have pictures of Clark having blowjob party with his soccer team

No kidding.

If Pioli agreed to come here, but wanted to keep Herm, I wouldn't want him here either.

Brock 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5341276)
Since Elway retired after the 1998-99 season, the Broncos have gone 91-69 (.568) in the regular season, have won only one division title in 10 years and are 1-4 in the postseason.

Is that better than the Chiefs during the last eight years?

Here we go again, "Well, he did better than the Chiefs did" as if that's any kind of meaningful measure.

Mr. Laz 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

GM Chris Polian
HC Mike Shannarat

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341262)
It just amazes me that Herman Edwards continues to have a job.

There is no GM I want here that thinks that Herm should stay.

I wonder what Polian thinks about Herm...

Indy has had a lot of success under Dungy (because they have Peyton friggin' Manning) and Herm has the same philosophy as Dungy...I could see Polian keeping Herm on board which scares me...

Carlota69 12-30-2008 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5341276)
Since Elway retired after the 1998-99 season, the Broncos have gone 91-69 (.568) in the regular season, have won only one division title in 10 years and are 1-4 in the postseason.

Is that better than the Chiefs during the last eight years?


Just slightly.

smittysbar 12-30-2008 04:45 PM

Un****ingreal!!!!!

Sweet Daddy Hate 12-30-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottawa_chiefs_fan (Post 5341218)
The problem with this is that Denver will be a very desireable location for a HC - more competition now.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5341225)
The guys at OM want Cowher bad now, hell 1 person mentioned herm lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by BuckinKaeding (Post 5341230)
PLEASE NO COWHER

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer me (Post 5341253)
Garcia Bronco said this had no chance of happening.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5341256)
Several AFC championships.

You watch! You just ****in' WATCH; Denver will hire Cowher, and we'll end up getting our asses kicked EVERY ****ING TIME WE MEET.

And where will you be then?

But by all means; all you scientists out there please keep pimping whatever ****ing no-name dicksmack gets your two-inch wang hard.

:cuss:

ottawa_chiefs_fan 12-30-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kregger (Post 5341254)
And what did Elway win without TD?

..and what did either of them win without Mike Shanahan?

Chieftain58 12-30-2008 04:45 PM

omfg! Sign him up!

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5341276)
Since Elway retired after the 1998-99 season, the Broncos have gone 91-69 (.568) in the regular season, have won only one division title in 10 years and are 1-4 in the postseason.

Is that better than the Chiefs during the last eight years?

Well...the last two years have pretty much tanked our W/L and at least they have ONE postseason win...

But yeah...the Chiefs and Broncos have both mastered mediocrity over the past decade.

Personally, I like our roster over there roster...it wouldn't be close if not for Cutler, either.

R&GHomer 12-30-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shox (Post 5341136)
Man I do not like that arrogant xxxhole. I just don't know if I could be a Chiefs fan with Shanny roaming the sideline.

I couldn't agree more. **** that horrible cheating suck azz *$%&&%)(#)($*$*. I would stop being a fan the moment Clark named him coach.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5341282)
I wonder what Polian thinks about Herm...

Indy has had a lot of success under Dungy (because they have Peyton friggin' Manning) and Herm has the same philosophy as Dungy...I could see Polian keeping Herm on board which scares me...

Then I wouldn't want Polian either.

Donger 12-30-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5341280)
Here we go again, "Well, he did better than the Chiefs did" as if that's any kind of meaningful measure.

Well, which team would you prefer? He has to be measured against something.

penguinz 12-30-2008 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5341276)
Since Elway retired after the 1998-99 season, the Broncos have gone 91-69 (.568) in the regular season, have won only one division title in 10 years and are 1-4 in the postseason.

Is that better than the Chiefs during the last eight years?

They have a playoff win don't they?

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:47 PM

I'm honestly thinking the Chiefs best route is hiring one of the Ravens guys and Rex Ryan, who I think is probably the best option out there.

Carlota69 12-30-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5341286)
You watch! You just ****in' WATCH; Denver will hire Cowher, and we'll end up getting our asses kicked EVERY ****ING TIME WE MEET.

And where will you be then?

But by all means; all you scientists out there please keep pimping whatever ****ing no-name dicksmack gets your two-inch wang hard.

:cuss:

LOL--Too much coffee today?

Brock 12-30-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Donger (Post 5341293)
Well, which team would you prefer? He has to be measured against something.

You may as well hire Marty Schottenheimer.

the Talking Can 12-30-2008 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ottawa_chiefs_fan (Post 5341287)
..and what did either of them win without Mike Shanahan?

and what did Captain win without Tennille?

Donger 12-30-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brock (Post 5341299)
You may as well hire Marty Schottenheimer.

Who do you think should be hired (if Herm is actually removed, of course)?

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5341286)
You watch! You just ****in' WATCH; Denver will hire Cowher, and we'll end up getting our asses kicked EVERY ****ING TIME WE MEET.

And where will you be then?

But by all means; all you scientists out there please keep pimping whatever ****ing no-name dicksmack gets your two-inch wang hard.

:cuss:

See...this guy has bought into the legend of Bill Cowher as well...

The guy is a good football coach...but before that Super Bowl Pitt fans were calling for his head on a year to year basis...especially during the whole Kordell Stewart/Tommy Maddox run...Cowher lucked into Big Ben and that's that...

Now everyone thinks he's a top 3 football coach and that was never the case...

If Denver signs Bill Belichick, then color me worried...but the mere presence of Cowher with their current roster doesn't really scare me.

kcfanXIII 12-30-2008 04:49 PM

i can't believe this thread is growing faster then the "carl resigns" thread

DJ's left nut 12-30-2008 04:49 PM

I'd LOVE this guy as a head coach.

C'mon, 8-8 with the injuries he had is incredible. Herm's yacking about bad luck and blaming youth when we go 2-14, meanwhile Shanahan had it worse than us and managed to play .500 ball. That's pretty damn impressive.

Would I want him as my GM? Nope, too much power and responsibility for one guy. But I'd take him (and his hatred for our two biggest rivals) on our sideline all day, every day.

Adept Havelock 12-30-2008 04:49 PM

Sonofabitch!!!! :eek: :thumb:

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:50 PM

I'll put Jason Garrett in Denver. I think Garrett needs to get out of Dallas, plus Bowlen loves offensive coaches.

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341292)
Then I wouldn't want Polian either.

Totally true...but as someone pointed out this next year is pretty much a free year for the GM if they keep Herm...

Personally, with so much invested in our 2008 draft, I'm ready for an entire new coaching staff capable of developing Dorsey...because I swear to God if Dorsey is a bust it's just going to set back this team even more...we really need him to be the stud he was advertised as.

Coach 12-30-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341297)
I'm honestly thinking the Chiefs best route is hiring one of the Ravens guys and Rex Ryan, who I think is probably the best option out there.


I personally think this could happen if DeCosta was named the new GM, IMHO.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:50 PM

What I can guarantee is that Shanahan wouldn't grade himself a "C" for a 2-14 season.

NaptownChief 12-30-2008 04:50 PM

Definitely confirmed on ESPN....The master of passing the blame to everyone but himself has finally been let go. This might kill the tanning bed business in Denver.

Carlota69 12-30-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5341310)
I'll put Jason Garrett in Denver. I think Garrett needs to get out of Dallas, plus Bowlen loves offensive coaches.

I bet your right. Maybe Bowlen thought now is the time becuz Garrett is available.

Coach 12-30-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5341308)
I'd LOVE this guy as a head coach.

C'mon, 8-8 with the injuries he had is incredible. Herm's yacking about bad luck and blaming youth when we go 2-14, meanwhile Shanahan had it worse than us and managed to play .500 ball. That's pretty damn impressive.

Would I want him as my GM? Nope, too much power and responsibility for one guy. But I'd take him (and his hatred for our two biggest rivals) on our sideline all day, every day.

His problem is the defense. He's like a younger crooked Dick Vermeil. Solid offense, horrible defenses.

penguinz 12-30-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 5341308)
I'd LOVE this guy as a head coach.

C'mon, 8-8 with the injuries he had is incredible. Herm's yacking about bad luck and blaming youth when we go 2-14, meanwhile Shanahan had it worse than us and managed to play .500 ball. That's pretty damn impressive.

Would I want him as my GM? Nope, too much power and responsibility for one guy. But I'd take him (and his hatred for our two biggest rivals) on our sideline all day, every day.

The only way He would be a good HC for us would be if there was a strong GM that did not allow him to make any decisions for the defensive side of the ball.

He has proven over the last 3 years that he is no better at fielding a decent defensive team than we have been.

Brock 12-30-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaptownChief (Post 5341316)
Definitely confirmed on ESPN....The master of passing the blame to everyone but himself has finally been let go. This might kill the tanning bed business in Denver.

No kidding, people around here think Herm throws people under the bus. Mike's been the master of that for years.

The Bad Guy 12-30-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5341313)
Totally true...but as someone pointed out this next year is pretty much a free year for the GM if they keep Herm...

Personally, with so much invested in our 2008 draft, I'm ready for an entire new coaching staff capable of developing Dorsey...because I swear to God if Dorsey is a bust it's just going to set back this team even more...we really need him to be the stud he was advertised as.

I can't remember a lame-duck coach surviving with a new GM.

They have to find a staff with a clue how to use talent. Gunther Cunningham is like the special ed. coordinator. He ****ing ruins players.

ottawa_chiefs_fan 12-30-2008 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hootie (Post 5341303)
See...this guy has bought into the legend of Bill Cowher as well...

The guy is a good football coach...but before that Super Bowl Pitt fans were calling for his head on a year to year basis...especially during the whole Kordell Stewart/Tommy Maddox run...Cowher lucked into Big Ben and that's that...

The whole argument of separating the coach and the QB does not make sense...what would Belichek be without Brady? (he did not even make the playoffs)..come on - that argument just can't be made in most cases where a HC has won all their SB's with one QB - which is MOST of them....

PRIEST 12-30-2008 04:52 PM

Holy Crap !!!! & Herms got a job LMFAO:cuss:

dirk digler 12-30-2008 04:52 PM

Holy shit I can't believe Bowlin made this move but it was the right one.

I guess TJ was wrong again........as usual

kregger 12-30-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaptownChief (Post 5341316)
Definitely confirmed on ESPN....The master of passing the blame to everyone but himself has finally been let go. This might kill the tanning bed business in Denver.

Damn, I thought for a minute you were talking about herm.

Hootie 12-30-2008 04:53 PM

I think it's a bit ridiculous that every season 1/4 of the current head coaches in the NFL get fired...

We're going to have to get real lucky to find an actual coach worth a shit with all of that turnaround. It's Super Bowl or bust for every team, every year...I think those expectations are a little much...

I think it is practical for a team to make 1 Super Bowl appearance every decade...winning 1 every 10 or 15 years...with the parity in the NFL today.

So this is going to be one unhappy board for a very long time...if we did win a Super Bowl...what would everyone do the following year when we went 8-8...followed by 10-6 and a 1st round loss? Look for a new coach and GM?

Pooch 12-30-2008 04:53 PM

I know we are waiting on a new Gm but how can herm still have a job!!

Bwana 12-30-2008 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 5341327)
Holy shit I can't believe Bowlin made this move but it was the right one.

I guess TJ was wrong again........as usual

Shocker!

SPATCH 12-30-2008 04:54 PM

it's gonna be slim pickin's boys


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