Where is the RG option? That is really the area we need to focus on

If Stafford is so much better, then why wouldn't the Lions take him over Sanchez?

Stafford for the record.

You should probably disregard his post it's full of reerunedness.

It's even more annoying in person. I honestly get to where I avoid talking about it, because I just end up getting pissed.

LOL...see I get pissed off because I have a real problem with stupid people.

I will literally respond with, man you are one dumb mother****er.

Why are talking shit about yourself?

No Thigpen option?

Thigpen is going back into the draft? Damn it Scott! :cuss:

Har har....

I don't remotely get close to as bad as alot of people do..just flip on 810 for a half hour.

I am just messing with you

Turn on 610 now. This host is saying Herm should come back because they may lose the young players if he doesn't come back

Yea that guy's a dumbass, he says we don't need a QB either, because you don't need a franchise QB.

Wow I'm pretty sure that Sanchez had a leg injury right before the season am I right? I remember seeing a clip before the season about Sanchez maybe missing the season opener walking around on crutches with a brace on. That makes me mildly reeruned?

You guys can promote Sanchez all you want but I'll bet my bottom dollar that Sanchez will not be better than Carson Palmer and will just be a pretty face that comes out of a USC football program. Maluaga will be ten times the player that Sanchez will be. If we take Sanchez with the #3 pick, Pioli or not, then I"ll believe that we're mildly reeruned. You can argue against me but in five years I'll still stand by the correct assessment that Stafford will be better than Sanchez.

And comparing a QB that was injured to another QB that was injured isn't dumb as shit, stop defending your USC boys so brazenly and accept that I have my opinions and you have yours.

Go to http:/articles.latimes.com/2008/aug/09/sports/sp-sanchez9

I never said that Sanchez missed games due to his injury, but the fact that he was just in practice and dislocated his knee cap is pretty unheard of for a QB that he just moved the wrong way and got injured.

This isn't the only point I have for not wanting Sanchez, but in someone that got injured strictly off of a practice throw makes me a little weary of his durability against top tier defenses. This year he didn't really face any top tier defenses outside of the rose bowl game.

WTF??

I seriously dont get this argument.

Some people act like Herm is the only coach in america who can coach up young players???

If you don't miss a game due to injury it's not significant now is it?

And it's not a remote reason to start bringing up Brodie Croyle who misses seasons...you took an injury that caused no missed game time and compared him to Croyle that means I can call you reeruned.

And he has failed at it for 3 years...

See our DL for player development...

Only a poster on chiefsplanet can try to compare a guy who had a minor injury and missed no games to a guy who's blown out both his knees and blew up his shoulder...

Yea those 2 players are obviously comparable in the injury front.

I think they both have huge upside.

I would like to see either drafted and groomed on the bench, Stafford because he needs to mature as a decision maker and Sanchez because he has much less time starting in college.

If I had to choose one that I felt could make the transition to starting in the NFL right away, that would be Sanchez because of his maturity and composure.

I chose Sanchez. After watching a few games, I think Sanchez plays in a more NFL-like offense. I'm not opposed, however, to drafting Andre Smith, sucking for another year, then drafting a QB next year. Next years draft is going to be QB rich, whereas this draft might see 3 first round QB's total.

Some of you guys should start drinking bottled water.

There has to be a dangerous level of lead in what you're currently drinking.

Im wondering why Bradford chose to stay?

Was he frightened by being taken by the Lions?

Umm the best from that junior class just came out.

yes, now that you mention it. So, I don't think the Chiefs get Sanchez OR Stafford.

Probably OL Alabama or Ole Miss in first round... or a massive attempt to trade down to someone who HAS to have stafford or sanchez.

He knows that he will be picked apart in workouts and tape study....

Riiiiiight, ok I'll give you the Croyle thing I didnt need to bring it up,

BUT

Mark Sanchez almost got taken out on a practice play snap where his KNEE buckled out on him. His coach even said "We got lucky"

Read the damn article you might learn a thing or two. I don't want a QB that has the propensity to break himself in practice. Those are the facts, deny them as you wish.

Who's gonna be there next year besides Bradford?

Maybe when you know how the injury happened I'll respect your opinion of it because it didn't happen on a snap....

So, let me see if I understand this.

You don't want Sanchez cause he almost got injured, which makes him almost injury prone, right?

I don't think you pass up a franchise qb because something bad almost happened in practice one time.

I heard he got a paper cut on his throwing hand in Biology class once.

There was that time the drunk girl almost puked on him.

I voted Stafford, but I'd be just as happy with Sanchez.

I heard the real reason Brady Quinn dropped was because he accidently zipped himself after going to the bathroom

I cant wait until we get the:

"Lets take Crabtree at #3" threads....

LMAO

FYP

I was talking to my dad, and he said he was hoping we didn't get Stafford because he felt he wasn't a good decision maker. Just because someone can play under center doesn't automatically mean they're going to make it in the NFL. Look at the examples from this year. Ryan and Flacco have proven to be smart quarterbacks. Is that something that can be learned? He thinks that we're going to end up trading down and picking up a QB next year.

Unless Bulger agrees to a pay cut, they are not drafting a QB 2nd overall.

His numbers this season would beg to differ.

In Stafford's case, I think it is just a question of maturity.

He's got a strong arm, and like many young QBs with a strong, feels that he can make plays that aren't there.

Some kids grow out of that, and Stafford seems to have a good head on his shoulders, so I think he will learn.

He's improved from year to year, but he was still making questionable decisions.

How many bad teams with one of the top 3 picks, with no QBoTF on the roster, dont pick a QB?


Unless Pioli wants to bring in a free agent starter, all signs point to the Chiefs selecting a QB.

Especially since 2 top tier guys have declared. You dont pass on talent like that.

Excuse my ignorance or if you've mentioned it before, but who do you choose say both are available at 3?

Petro was going on and on yesterday about how Sanchez was a walking injury and couldn't be counted on to play 16 games. :spock: I think people are just picking up on that dumbassery, since they don't have a clue.

He was concerned with the fact that he tends to like to throw into double coverage. Can't do that against an NFL defense.

Elway and Favre would like to disagree with that.

And let me say this one more time:

That Rose Bowl performance was NOT some great "parting of the clouds by the hand of God to let the light shine down on Mark Sanchez on this one glorious game", it was another day in the life, and business...as...usual.

And if you want to make Aikman comparisons, that's fine as long as people understand that it's an "Aikman minus the brain dead/autistic slap-fight"-factor, with Peyton Manning's footwork thrown in to boot.

I'm happy with either guy, and I'm very happy that we can draft and develop a franchise QB now that the pretenders have gone back to class.

Right now, I'm leaning in Sanchez's direction, but a mild breeze could sway me in the other direction.

That's how close I see them.

Was reading a Ram board the other day and they were pretty sure they could get Sanchez in round 2 or 3 ROFL

Soren Petro is a crap-flinging chimpanzee with a spine akin to jelly. He licked Carl's loafers like an Indonesian prostitute until Clark shit-canned his ass.

You can read the same dipshittery about Sanchez here.

And how many times were they picked off? What kind of receivers did they have compared to us?

He's right, and that's one of the things he'll learn quickly in the NFL.

Elway learned that he couldn't get away with it all the time, and his decisions weren't nearly as stupid as Favre's.

Favre was just a dumbshit.

To be fair, there are probably boards pointing here and laughing because people think Sanchez became a top 3 pick the minute he declared.

The question is does Stafford and Sanchez = Manning and Leaf with a boom and a bust? Or are they gonna be like Manning and Rivers with a boom and a boom? Or god forbid will they turn out like Carr and Herrington and be a nice pair of busts?

PhilFree:arrow:

Alot of people really don't realize how good of a prospect this guy is. You bring him up to most average football fans and they have no clue he's a potential top 3 pick.

Fire the missile, launch the rocket, or float it on in or over the shoulder; is there anything this guy can't do?

It wouldn't even be luck or good maneuvering to land this kid, it would be straight-up Karmic Justice for DECADES of stupidity, pain, and suffering.

Do you really think he would have declared if he hadn't been given the impression he'd be a top 5 pick?

We're not the only ones. I was watching SC while I was working out today, and they said they weren't for sure if Sanchez might actually go before Stafford.

Nice turnaround, what I'm saying is that the guy was passing to a reciever in PRACTICE and dislocated his knee cap. That's what I'm saying, if you'd read what was in my post instead of what you wanted to read you'll see I said that theres a bunch more reasons why I believe Stafford is better than Sanchez. I believe that at that position you'll see that Maluaga is better than Sanchez in overall productivity. Sanchez IMO is no better than Lienart was with that system.

Here's some simple dialect for ya:

Matthew Stafford, no injuries during starts at Georgia.

Mark Sanchez, dislocated his knee in practice while throwing the ball.

Mark Sanchez in one year has had more injuries than Matthew Stafford in three.

AGAIN that is not the only reason I wouldn't take Sanchez over Stafford, I believe Sanchez is a good QB but not worthy of a top 3 pick. He comes from a system at USC that has been put in place there for many years and makes all QB's look good. Hell John David Booty looked good at USC, given not as good as Sanchez. Matt Stafford had a poor Oline, a bad defense, and almost as many wins as Sanchez. Sanchez had one of the best defenses, a good Oline, good recievers that didnt drop too many balls... hell he had USC! I know what Sanchez is capable of but if you're talking about Stafford or Sanchez my vote is Stafford, but hey thats what makes forums great they are prime places for you to voice your opinion and then have it mercilessly ridiculed by those whose opinions differ.

You know for as much as I've heard people bang on Bradford stating that it's nearly impossible to evaluate him given the talent he's surrounded by, I'm surprised Sanchez seems to get more of a pass on this.

Give me Stafford.

Sanchez has faced a lot of pressure and taken a lot of hits.

He isn't surrounded by the talent that Bradford was, and he plays in a pro set.

You're right, in a way. You can, though, when you have the arm that Stafford does.

Dude, I hope if we get him, we can trade down a few spots and pray that we can pick up more 1st/2nd/3rd rnd draft picks. #3 seems kind of high to me. Hope he turns what alot of people say he can do here to good stuff in the Pros.

Sanchez has a pretty big arm too. I really hope we land him. I saw Stafford play four times this year, I was only really impressed once. Though, based on potential, I wouldn't cry in my beer if we landed either one.

I can name a couple players without using google...

Ronald Johnson
Blake Ayles
Damian Williams
Joe Mcknight
Stafon Johnson
CJ Gable
David Ausberry
Vidal Hazelton (:()
Patrick Turner
Stanley Havili
Marc Tyler
Broderick Green (played with him for a few games)
Curtis Mcneal ????

this is what he worked with in 08

Prior to watching more college QB film than I ever wanted to in this life, I was ready to say "**** it" and let Thigpen go unchallenged. After watching the Novelty-O fizzle out, I came to understand that we HAD to use that top pick to secure a pro-system, franchise QB for the long haul ahead.

That established, I can say without a doubt that Mark Sanchez is the ONLY current college QB I'd put on the field at Arrowhead TODAY and be confident about the decision.

Staffchez

Don't know if this was posted

Sanchez will be on the bench his entire first year.

Sanchez hasn't faced all that much pressure. How many games was USC down where Sanchez had to bring them back?

08/30/08 @ Virginia W 52-7
09/13/08 9 Ohio St. W 35-3
09/25/08 @ 18 Oregon St. L 21-27
10/04/08 10 Oregon W 44-10
10/11/08 Arizona St. W 28-0
10/18/08 @ Washington St. W 69-0
10/25/08 @ Arizona W 17-10
11/01/08 Washington W 56-0
11/08/08 California W 17-3
11/15/08 @ Stanford W 45-23
11/29/08 Notre Dame W 38-3
12/06/08 @ UCLA W 28-7
01/01/09 + 8 Penn St. W 38-24

He's a hell of a prospect, but almost all of the Bradford criticisms apply to Sanchez. He just doesn't have enough experience to justify a top 10 pick.

Not hardly. Your saying he's holding out because he fears the criticism? But your joking right?

If SB was on the list, he'd be my pick, but I'd be curious to see how either Sanchez or Stafford would develope. I'll bet the three will play quite a few NFL games when all said and done.

When is Frankie going to come in and say they are both 4th round picks.

anybody knows what Sanchez projects as

I'll go on record now as saying Pioli will pick neither of them, and trade down.

"Meh" on you! Meh I say!:D

So now CP posters are already comparing Stafford to Elway and Favre because he has a strong arm? Premature much?

Sanchez is like Lex Luger's nickname, but a Stafford is fine also.

Stafford will likely be on the bench as well.