This.

Washington also sat Jason Campbell his rookie year when they had aging Mark Brunell.

Cleveland also sat Brady Quinn his rookie year when they had Derek Anderson who threw 5 TDs and 8 picks the prior year.

Learn behind Thigpen?

What?

The 'Thigpen can't play behind center' shit is pure myth. No QB could play in R2P2 last year because half of our line didn't block...

Whoever is running the offense next year needs to run THEIR system...if Thigpen can't pull that off then I agree, he's worthless...but I saw Thigpen make several good throws and reads from behind center this year...the only reason we needed a gimmick offense was because, like I said, we had MAJOR MAJOR protection issues.

and obviously no one really thinks, or few people at least, that Thigpen will be our future...but Baltimore was heading into the season with Troy Smith as their QB...because Flacco was extremely 'raw'...and a fluke situation to Smith and a freak injury to Boller is the only reason Flacco ever sniffed the field.

Sanchez will probably be listed at #3 next year if we draft him...for a year...behind Thigpen and Croyle. Learn the ropes, give Pioli a season to evaluate, and then set him up for success in 2010.

This is the same guy who cost Matt Leinart a shit pot full of money by talking him into coming back.

This.

If he truly cares about the kid, why publicly shit in the helmet of a player that is going to represent the USC program in the pros?

What if the advisory report saying Sanchez is a 2nd rounder is fairly accurate and Carroll's contacts in the NFL told him Sanchez was a 2nd rounder?

Even if true, it shows a huge lack of class on Carroll's part to drag this into the media. He's only hurting Sanchez more by blowing it up in the media.

Imagine Bob Stoops calling Bradford an idiot for returning to OU, if he happened to be told he'd be a Top 5 pick by the advisory committee and his contacts.

Right or wrong, you keep that kind of talk in house.

No one called anyone an idiot.

Might as well be.

If Carroll feels Mark is making a mistake, fine. He's entitled to that opinion.

But what I don't understand is what there is to gain for Carroll in making it public, other than trying to embarrass Mark, or get him to change his mind. Calling out the decision publicly serves no good purpose, IMO.

Exactly, it was a douchebag move on Carroll's part.

If he disagrees, so be it...handle it in house...not out in the public.

NY sat Manning behind Warner. Cutler started out as the backup behind Plummer. Rothlisberger started out as the backup behind Maddox. Flacco started out as the backup.

Well, we disagree on this one. I've listened to other interviews Pete did, and he doesn't come within a stone's throw of calling Mark an idiot. He said Mark was making a decision that the percentages didn't support. He said that Mark is going against the grain and they didn't see eye-to-eye on the decision. If you interpret that as tantamount to calling him an idiot, then so be it.

I'd be curious as to what the failure rate is for Senior QB's. And I'd also like to see a breakdown on this 62% number and see how it was arrived at.

I bet the senior failure rate is comparable, yet Carroll wants to hang his hat on stats, while ignoring the fact that Sanchez gets jack shit if he suffers a significant injury after returning.

By PC bringing it out in the media, one of two things is going to happen:

Sanchez will not be a 1st round pick, and will look stupid for declaring, or he will he a high pick, and Carroll will look stupid for making an issue out of it publicly.

Someone is going to lose, and it didn't have to be this way. What's so hard about keeping this in-house?

I think he was talking about underclassmen QBs, but am not sure. I think the more compelling data point is that of number of college starts in relation to success in the NFL.

IMO Pete used the stats to illustrate what the best set of circumstances might be for Mark to come out and be successful. I don't think people would argue that Mark has put himself in the best situation in terms of preparation and experience to be a productive NFL QB.

I admit I thought Pete could have handled the press conference better. But I also think that he had the player's best interests at heart. FWIW, I thought that this interview a bit later was more indicative of how he felt.

http://www.am570radio.com/cc-common/...KLAC-AM&TRACK=

Maybe he was hoping the kid would change his mind. As long as he didn't talk to an agent he could have had a change of heart.

No reason to go public.

Which is fine, I pointed that out earlier.

But is calling him out in public the only way that Carroll feels is going to get Mark to change his mind?

Again, I have NO problem with Carroll having this opinion.

I have a huge problem with taking it to the media.

SOUNDED like pete is covering his own ass, you know if sanchez fails pete can tell the next HS qb who he's sitting with "well sanchez failed but i told him so' classless douchebag thing to do. like i said in another post self serving, the "i care about my players" is now "i care about them as long as they do as i want"

Sanchez could get insurance and I'm sure boosters would have set him up* if he returned. Plus, if the advisory board is correct and he doesn't get drafted until the second round then he will have lost millions.





*Without violating any NCAA rules of course.

ROFL

Pete is probably very sorry to disappoint you.

I think it was his last opportunity. According to Carroll everyone but Sanchez thought he should return - advisory board, coaches, his parents, etc.

i havent got time now to listen, but if its any different then why didnt he say this on NATIONAL TV and just on local radio?

then why do all the experts have him as a sure fire 1st as of now?

That's the thing, it WASN'T his last opportunity.

Sanchez has (well, had) 4 days to rescind his decision. Michael Oher took advantage of this option last year. This is assuming he hasn't hired an agent.

I'm not sure how anyone can justify a coach doing this to one of his players.

Don't really know - maybe it was because he had cooled down. If you believe everyone involved, Pete and Mark had been up discussing it late into the night after Pete had just returned from vacation in Hawaii. Pete is a passionate guy and probably isn't used to Mark not listening to his counsel.

Carroll's just worried about another trophey.

Jesus Christ that was the dumbest of them all. You; build fire, jump in. Die.

Make that a donkey dick and we've got a deal.



Dropped on head much?

He wouldn't know where to begin.

FYP:D

alot of guys can comeout early, that doesn't make them a succesful QB of the Chiefs. Sanchez has failure all over him.
Trade Larry to The Skins for Colt Brennan

Do you EVER get tired of being wrong?

ROFL I hope you're kidding!

I'm sure that the skins are desperate to replace an elite back in Portis with a washed up headcase like LJ.

seriously how many people here think Sanchez will be a better pro QB than Colt Brennan?

DCS,Keep plugging for those USC players that fail in the league and obtw they are failing in College as well, they seem to lose to some nobody PAC 10 school every year now. LMAO

Portis will not be back in D.C. Mark that down poncho!!

I think Pete should have said "Mark is going against the grain" and left it at that.

How'd you guess my real name?

True, and it's really shitty of him. That's going to hurt him in recruiting eventuall.

I actually think Carroll has the players best interests at heart. Living in L.A. I hear about all of the things he does in the community. Obviously this helps his recruiting but he goes above and beyond to stem gang violence and keep kids off the street. He seems like a great guy which is why I was surprised he let his emotion get the better of him and sound off in the press at the possible detriment to Sanchez's career.

I've tried to avoid this and be merciful, but no more.

This is step 1:

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You'll find step 2 on your Rep Page. Dickwad.

OMG please no ,please don't screw with my rep,lol
I don't want to have to run and hide behind my desk!!:):clap:

He didn't do anything to the kid. Apparently the guys who make millions and actually make the picks have the kid as a second round prospect. Carroll isn't lowering the kids value, he's just telling the internet "gurus" inside info.

The same experts who had Brohm as an early 1st, Quinn as an early 1st and who at this time last year had Flacco in the 2nd and 3rd round?

That's a good point. I suppose anything he said was probably known by the folks that matter.

Wanna' go for two, asshole?

ABOUT 99.9% i would hope

If I came off as saying carroll was a bad guy, I didn't mean to. I just think that he tends to make things harder, not easier, on his college players once they leave.