So, for instance, would you give this post a warning or infraction?

I think the ban option for supporters is acceptable only in severe cases. When supporters banned Frankie and Chiefdawn last week for misleading threads, I call that abuse of powers. That is something that a mod can take care of at his discretion/convenience. If someone is spamming porn, then by all means, take care of it by any means possible asap.

We got along on mod power alone for a long time before you got here. There are a lot of people who post here. Some of them are very level headed like Rain Man, HemiEd and Nzoner (just to name a few of the many) and I wouldn't have any problem with guys like that being deputized. Others will shoot their refrigerator at the drop of a hat and don't belong anywhere in the chain of command when it comes to banning people.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/faq.p...nable#faq_spam

False News or Thread Title
Many people come here for their Chiefs news, so we don't tolerate false news stories, even if done as a joke. Misleading thread titles can fall into this category.

Its listed right there under bannable offenses.

I disagree, misleading thread titles are BS and I encourage the swift action by all involved.

No, I wouldn't. I would click the report post option and leave it to a mods discretion.

Apparently, you missed the part where the mods said that those two deserved to be banned for those actions.

In all honesty, the infractions should be done away with, and they should add 2-4 mods to the picture.

Even with the infractions stopping Marlboro Chief from posting more than 7-8 times, it still took almost 20 minutes to get the posts deleted.

IMO, that's 19 minutes too long, especially when we're talking about porn.

There are enough level-headed people here that are around all the time - it wouldn't be that hard to add some depth to the mod roster.

I'm not doubting that you did, but theres a lot of questionable stuff that gets passed over by the supporters as well.

Last week when people were making a bunch of fake threads about Pioli Signing / Herm getting fired, they were cluttering up the board, and a lot of us were getting sick of it...

Anyways, thats my 2 cents, I don't have much more to add.

I don't give a shit if it is a bannable offense. It is BS that you have the power to make that call just because you gave $25 to Kyle. It should be reported and let a mod deal with it. Mind your own business and let the mods do their job!

Yeah, while I don't think he was trying to be racist, it sure came off as racist, but I wouldn't give him a warning on something like that. Its not serious enough.

I think a monthly charge would create a sense of entitlement, but overall, moderation isn't a bad thing if it's in the right hands.

I've handed out 2 cards. 1 as a joke, the other for racism, or porn, or some such shit.

No, I didn't miss that part. I just said that it should have been left to the mods.

I assume mods are chosen for their neutrality
the petty would have field day with this
of course the discourse would rival a Gochiefs bashing thread

Eh, who do you think GAVE the supporters the so-called "power" they have?

If you have a problem, take it up with Kyle.

How about Nothing, theres nothing wrong with it given the context of the post.

Mod roster? It is a total shit job that brings on nothing but bitching people.

Well, it's obvious the mods and the administrator are actively participating in this thread, so I guess it should be left to them.

CoMo is and has always been a button-pushing idiot. Personally, I have no patience for it. But others seem to think its cute.

I guess there is no changing your mind.

Just note that Kyle is the one who put this "program" into place. If it was a huge problem it wouldn't be there in the first place. I think you are over-reacting.

I get sick of poop threads and drunk threads cluttering up the board. I just click ignore thread, and they are gone.

He obviously sees the program being abused or he wouldn't have raised the number of infractions to five.

Trust me, I know. I've had numerous conversations with Morphius, Phil and Parker regarding what a shitty job it is.

But that doesn't change the fact that more are needed, and there are more than capable people that can handle the responsibilities.

Just like Shtsprayer's comments, it all depends on how you choose to interpret it.

moderating supporter powers
should be a hoot

No, it defaults to 3 and I just felt that was too small a sample size... I honsetly never messed with the settings until now

This is the kind of temperament that makes for a good ChiefsPlanet mod. :thumb:

Also, the "supporter" group is manually added to by me (which is why people sometimes have to remind me to add them)

No one has abused it yet AND no one that I feel would abuse it would be added to the group regardless...

It is supposed to be a fun perk... I have yet to see anyone use it to create a special "clique" or lord it over anyone...

A final word on it, if someone abused it and it was obviously intentional... they would be the one getting banned.

To clarify, anything that agrees with your notion, is good. Anything you don't agree with is bad. okay.

I don't think I'll ever be visiting www.PatteuPlanet.com. Which is where you should take your narrow minded thinking.

The grand puba has spoken.

LOL, that's flattering, but there are many longer tenured members who would be far more deserving of it than me.

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Please close thread...

I had no doubt about this part whatsoever.

I have offered or I am willing to offer my services as long as it doesn't pertain to me moderating any part of DC, for the obvious reasons.

What?

Hi there, it's me, breaking my self imposed ban. I've been lurking today. The new system creates animosity that shouldn't be created. Mini Nazi's abound. I made an obvious joke thread. Mayhaps it could be deemed a "false thread" but it was so a freaking a parody on all the "Herms fired/Shanahans in" threads, that I didn't see it as a "false" thread. So I got "infarked" Pissed me off. And this bullshit....

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Don't worry, though. I'm not going to go and find a bunch of other posts and ban you. I just give one infraction, unlike others.[/QUOTE]

Oh, thank you great one...oh mighty supporter. Athletic supporter!

And this was just ahours after a "Is it cool to jizz on her face" thread!

Bullshit....still needs discussion....

It's none of my business.

LOL

I meant Grand Poobah...

I don't see the system being abused. I didn't even know about it when I contributed. And I haven't used it. I wouldn't be a very good cop.

So you want MeMe down here?:shake:

Yep, she was here all the time before DC. Cesspool that it is it has redeeming qualities.

What kind of supportive powers could some one get for $100?

You could probably own fatchatter for that kind of dough.

I understood it was $500.!

yeah, I remember that when I found this place. She had me more confused than I normally am.

Supporters had nothing to do with those bans, FYI.

You've obviously got the right to run your board however you want to, but SHTSPRAYER was banned because of who he is, not because of what he posted in that particular thread. I'm confident that a different poster could have posted those same things without drawing the ire of the Sheriff of Refrigeration and his Barney Fife. Both of them have had run-ins with SHTSPRAYER before and IMO, Frazod in particular, welcomed an excuse to use his wonder powers on him.

SHTSPRAYER was banned because he was posting some pretty overtly racist stuff.

He deserved worse than what he got.

"White Liberals - Obama is a racist! Why did you vote for this magic negro! black pimp! Zippa dee doo dah!"

He was definitely inciting racial animus. He could have made a very good point without being so overtly racist.

Yeah I just read through that thread...Hes a racist bigot and such...

I hate your new sig. I also hate bigots. Speaking of which, how's it feel to be in the Nazi's?

It feels.......AWESOME

fwiw, as a long time member and someone who remembers why this BB was created, I think the powers given them is a great idea.

This place was created to get away from overbearing Mods, and in 9 years I have only seen one time a mod really went to far.

Way to many times in the past, shit would happen here on the BB and it would sometimes take hours to be taken care of.

IF you think that you have been abused in some way, then by all means take it up with Austinchief. In all the years I've known him (online) I have never seen him abuse his power, and is always been fair. Frankly there are times I wish he would be more of a dick to some people.:D

Just my .02 worth

Getting a red card totally pissed me off. My Jack Harry fired thread was obviously a parody of the bullshit posted that day. I get a red card and "Jizz on my face" is cool? I call bullshit.

:deevee:

Eventually you might want to just settle on a single version of this whiny tale of woe you've vomited up for the.... what - 20th time now? That way you could just cut and paste and save yourself the trouble of rewriting it. Give it a rest. Nobody had a problem with it except you and your fellow Taliban. And our resident ACLU guy, who probably gets weepy every time the latest version of Marlboro Chief gets whacked.

Lol...Who gave you the Red Card?

To be fair, you did see that similar posts got people temporarily banned....if you missed those ones, c'est la vie.

Also I believe it wasn't a Jizz on my face thread, it was Luv wondering why guys thought that was hot.

Not that I'm defending the situation, but you should have known the risk factors going into making that thread.

For what it's worth, I was aware of the SHTSPRAYER temp ban and allowed it to stand. I check in on the infractions every couple days to make sure there's no one going crazy. Would I have banned him in the first place? Maybe, maybe not. But his post was certainly questionable, so I decided to let the temp ban stand.

You all can continue to argue about that choice over in DC; that's not the intent of my post here. I just wanted to make it clear that this isn't some system sitting out there where someone could go crazy unnoticed.

Just think of it as neg rep. It takes a bunch of people all pissed off at you at the same time for it to matter.

Fire Me Boy! red carded me. I didn't feel that something that obviously a parody would cause a stir....my bad.

Thanks DaFace and Austin for clarifying all of this. So basically it is not like what the whiners think it is and you guys actually watch over who gets infractions and what not.

Therefore I conclude all the whining is for not. Thanks. :thumb:

I think that it's a good system, so long as the mods are moderating *that* system. It lets the community do the heavy lifting when it comes to moderating the forum. I've been trying to figure out a way to do such a thing, and I think that this system is as good as I've seen - despite the fact that it does invite a fair amount of drama when people want to start mincing over what constitutes racism and what doesn't. Which isn't altogether a bad discussion to have. But at the end of the day, it forces people to consider the audience - the community - and think twice about posting over the top stuff.

STOP BEING REASONABLE! You are taking all the fun out of a good pissy fit!

I think it's a bad idea. If this board needs more monitoring, just add another moderator, otherwise I think it sets a bad precedent and is going to be abused eventually. I guess it's a clever way to increase donations, but I don't see the point otherwise.

The "I don't care what you think" directly stems from people lining up to defend an out and out troll, who, if he shared an antipodal political belief, the same people would be lining up to pillory.

Jets fans show up to warn us about Herm: permabanned

Jet fans shows up and consistently spews thinly veiled racist garbage but does so from a common political viewpoint: Keep him around.

It's hog shit.

I think you bring up a good point TJ. In the past people would post all kinds of crazy stuff and the worst that could happen would be neg rep but who cares about that. Now maybe people will watch to some degree what the say or how they say it. I am not advocating censorship so much as some kind of decorum.

I think that BK abused the system in banning Chiefdawn by going back in old posts to find something to red card so as to get the poster banned. Maybe I should contribute some money to get some power and find three BK drunken stupid posts and ban him. See how great he thinks it is then.

People should be free to wish for the death of a presidential candidate without repercussion, facist.

You sons of bitches have swayed me over to liking the athletic supporters.

In case you missed it.

Three separate people gave him an infraction, which would have resulted in a temp ban had I not manually done it myself first.

holy crap .... never even noticed it


he should have to take it down, at least

Yes I did.

**** it, DaFace, please take away my Supporter Status or at least my Infraction powers. Its now obvious that jjchieffan doesn't really care about the whole situation, just me personally.

Thanks.

P.S. I hope this appeases you jj.

I think SHTSPRAYER is a separate issue. He's an obnoxious troll who should have been perma-banned a long time ago. I don't think giving users to ability to ban people is the solution to trolls, the mods need to take care of that.

man! $120 a year from one member. Imagine 100 members paying all year. Thats $12,000 from 100 members in 1 year. Where does that cash go?

Into the G-string of that chick that Austin Chief was flirting with a few weeks ago.

Yeah....about that....Austin Chief is in this for the great monetary rewards:rolleyes:

you wouldn't give a crap if shit prayer wasn't part of your insane GOP posse.

Strippers and blow.

$12K doesn't go very far.

lol YAHTZEE!

I knew you'd come around. We're usually on the same page.

Please don't let any one else know this....

mmmm strippers......