He just sounds like a Raider, too.

Because if both QB's are gone Kicker is barely a step up from the completely useless Linebacker position...:rolleyes:

Don't get yer panties in a bunch.

That one is clearly just a joke.

Casserly ranked the OT workouts as Monroe #1, J Smith #2 and Oher #3.

I know, but jimminy christmas...:D

Mayock hates receiving TE's...he literally when praising Pettigrew bashed receiving TEs saying blocking is more important.

Personally I think Jared Cook and Travis Beckum would be the 2 guys I'd target if I was looking for a TE.

And David Buehler was actually recruited as a DB/Athlete so he's very athletic despite being a kicker.

My God. How many times are you going to post the exact same thing in different threads?

It's just an example of how Mayock is so completely over the top about some things...receiving TE's are more important than blocking TE's and he refuses to acknowledge that, just like his circle jerk of Aaron Curry is absurd.

Oher really made an ass of himself in drills, didn't he?

How much of a dumbass is Andre Smith?

He goes totally AWOL today because he assumed that he fulfilled his combine requirement by showing up for height and weight.

I'd totally take this **** off my board.

Herman Johnson looks like a ****in grizzly bear out there

What happened?

In the pull/trap drill he leaned too far forward when he went to hit the pad and almost fell on his face.

In the backpedal drill, he was the only guy who turned the wrong way when the coach pointed the football to a given side.

Hopefully he'll fall to our second round pick

He isnt a right tackle type, so it wouldnt be good for us.

He would most likely be BPA, and IMO worth that pick for sure. He would give our line a lot more options and would really help solidify it.

Yeah.

He looked totally unprepared.

I didn't like Jake Long last year, and while he did nothing in the combines to change my opinion of his athletic ability, the way that he showed that he worked hard to nail these drills before he went to the combines impressed me.

The difference between Long last year and Oher this year really speaks to their work ethic.

Oher has more natural talent, but his work ethic, or lack thereof, scares me.

He cant play guard and he isnt a right tackle, so how would that make our line better other than depth behind Albert?

Well, Albert could easily move to one of those other positions. And yes, I know about the value of drafting him in the first round, etc, but if it makes the team better, sometimes you do unconventional things.

Although, it should not be considered an option, because Albert have done a damned good job as a LT, despite missing out the whole training camp.

He will get better eventually. The Chiefs already have the 2nd most important position filled (LT) and it should be left alone at all costs. The Chiefs now need to get the most important position filled, and that's the QB.

You might have missed that we were talking about the SECOND round. I am assuming if we are taking a QB, we are taking him at number 3.

Yeah.

It was crazy to watch how quickly he could flip his hips to change direction on the down-the-line drill. He looked like a damned slot receiver doing it.

I just don't know if he's got it upstairs. I don't know if it's focus, dumbassery, a combination, or just general laziness, but he really scares me as a prospect.

With that being said, I don't think there's any way he'd drop past 25.

I fully believe the Chargers will look at an OT,RB or a guy like Mauluga with their first pick so even if Smith and Oher are looking like complete dumbasses there's a chance that's their landing spot.

Ah, I did miss that. I thought you were referring to the 1st pick.

Still, the 2nd round picks is very much important as a first round pick.

Hypothetical question. Let's assume that Stafford and Sanchez are off the board, what is the probability that the Chiefs may get B.J. Raji, if he's projected as a top 5 pick?

What you think of Pettigrew going to Atlanta? That would probably help out Matt Ryan tremendously....

He'd help Turner more than Ryan, at the next level Pettigrew is Jason Dunn.

Frankly, if both QBs are off the board then there really isn't a player whose value will match the pick for the Chiefs.

I am not sold on a guy like Malcolm Jenkins there, though, and if we are transitioning to a 34 we will already undercutting Dorsey's value, so I could live with Raji at three.

Ok so wow if true....


Maybin at 250

INDIANAPOLIS - Penn State defensive end Aaron Maybin just checked in at the NFL Scouting Combine media center. He has his weight up to 250 pounds. He's 6-foot-3 1/2. That's probably good news for teams that may want him to be a 4-3 defensive end. Now we'll see if he runs a fast time.

---Mark Gaughan

http://blogs.buffalonews.com/billboa...in-at-250.html

First link not working...


Penn St. DE/OLB Aaron Maybin apparently heard the critics that said he was too light to be a DE in the NFL. Admitting that he finished his final college season at 230 pounds.

“They wanted to see me put on some weight,” said Maybin. “So I went to work and put on 20 pounds. I feel real good right now.”

Maybin is now at 250 and said he feels good and more explosive than when he was 230. He’s been doing a lot of explosion, power lifting type training. We’ll see if it pays off, but many expect him to have a monster workout, which will only send him further up the first round board.

http://blogs.buffalobills.com/2009/0...dds-20-pounds/

man, how do you add 20 lbs of what i presume is mostly muscle, in a few months?....legally, i mean....

I posted a picture of him in this forum...I still have a hard time believing he's 250 but that doesn't change the fact that he is by far the rawest of the raw when it comes to playing.

Indeed.. It does seem a little strange.. Apparently he has a very high metabolism which made it very hard for him to put on weight.. he must be eating 30 steaks a day...

http://www.allfootball247.com/wp-con...ron-maybin.jpg

That still doesn't look 250 to me...he's cut but there's no bulk, unless he's the guy in the green shirt.

lol ok dont know how to post pics.. but i got that info from draftcountdown and they had an interesting pic of Maybin before and after...

http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=30372

There is absolutely no way he's 250 in that picture unless he has 10lb weights attached to each ankle.

and that guy is a kicker?! Holy hell! That's some serious athleticism!

Maybin must have not pissed for 3 days before his weigh in...I'm sure guys do that, drink a ton of water and try to keep it in to weigh more just like guys who are considered overweight try to dehydrate themselves to suck out the lbs of water weight.

Looking at Mecca's picture, it doesn't look like it's been done without the aid of "supplements". Question, are the players subjected to blood tests in the combine, or once they are under contract. If it's not until under contract, would that be sufficient time for "supplements" to be released and out of the system?

They don't blood test for HGH.

To me, he looks exactly like someone who is on HGH.

http://cache.gawker.com/assets/image...allone_hgh.jpg

http://www.nerve.com/CS/blogs/61fps/...-of-persia.jpg

look at the difference in his delts....

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...73222_6909.jpg

Looks like he went all Micheal Jackson on us as well.

Maclin ran a 4.4
DHB ran 4.32
Deon Butler ran 4.26
Johnny Knox ran 4.25
Kenny Britt: 4.48
Quan Cosby ran 4.44
Harvin ran 4.37
Iglesias ran 4.51


Disappointing time for Maclin. He looked a little stiff when he ran. I'll be interested to see what he posts at his pro day.

Anyone know of a stream for the combine? Searched justintv, no luck there.

I am gonna be stuck at work alll day, with maybe 40 customers lol.

*got link in the other thread, thanks DaKCMan AP
http://www.justin.tv/stickinittotheman

Maclin just followed it up with a 4.37.

Sure he's raw, but teams want to see athleticism and explosion when looking for elite rush backers for the 3-4, and that's what Maybin will be.

It will be interesting to see who gets drafted first between him and Everette Brown.

Mayock just said Stafford "blew coaches away with his board work and comprehension".

It's fuzzy on Justin.tv, did Pat White run a 4.50?

Thats what I saw earlier on nfl.com/live, and I think I saw it posted above.

Sanchez getting ready to throw...

Brown has the same athleticism with polished pass-rush moves. No question. Maybin is a 15-20 guy if you ask me.

Well, Sanchez has definitely been underwhelming on his throws so far...

So where do you see Brown? Top 10?

I think they're both 15-20 guys - neither looks like top 10 picks at this point.

This quieted the fanboys down quite a bit.

DCS should be suicidal at this point. (hoping)

No, it really didn't quiet any of them down. Now, the combine doesn't matter for QBs other than interviews. You can read all about it in the thread in the main forum about the combine.

BJ Raji looking like an idiot in an interview with the crew on NFLN

Sanchez has not looked impressive today. I can't put make or break stock in a combine performance throwing to a different WR every single time you throw. What was unimpressive though was him throwing at least two balls several yards out of bounds on deep throws. I would put a little more stock in what he does in his Pro day and team workouts.

Came around a little bit. Didn't seem that comfortable though

The biggest plus to me is that he did everything. Even if he stunk up the room I give him many props for not being afraid to get out there and compete. I'm so tired of guys being afraid to compete cause they're afraid to hurt their payday. I understand, but I respect the guys puttin it out there so much more.

Yes, I think Brown goes top 10. Although I'm not sure how his combine check-in affects that(think he was 3" shorter than listed). No doubt in my mind he's the top pass rusher, I wonder when the last time no pass rusher was taken top 10.

Slight revision: I definitely think brown goes in the 8-12 range, Maybin I would put between 15 and 30.

That's because he is an idiot.

I didn't think he came off like an idiot at all. Came off like an aggressive DT getting some camera time.


PhilFree:arrow:

I see that Raji put up 33 bench reps. Thats not bad, only 4 off from the leader.

Orakpo did 31, and interesting enough, Cushing put up 30 (5 more than Curry). If Cushing turns in a good 40 time, he could rocket up the board.

Only 4 running backs broke 4.5.

That is just awful. Awful

Beanie had a horrendous 40. There was talk of him running a 4.4 flat. I don't know how he's a top 20 pick right now.

Ziggy Hood hammered out 34 reps. That's awesome for him.

Seriously? Wow, I didn't think he had the mass to do that well. Good for him.

I was really hoping someone would get into the 40+ range.

Cushing is probably more naturally gifted than Curry is that's whats lost in all this.

White, Robiskie, Unger, Wood, Monroe = the bigger name combine winners so far.

Orakpo ran a 4.63

Good time for a big guy. Same time as Shonn Greene

From Scott Wright:

Maybin officially ran slower than 4.87... ROFL

Orakpo ran a 4.7 official.

Cushing's form on the bench was awful. He just bounced the bar every time and never locked out. He probably got credit for 5-7 more reps than he should have.

This from a report by NFL Network’s Paul Burmeister:

Texas defensive end Brian Orakpo limped off the field a few minutes ago and went under the bleachers with one of the trainers. He’s done for the day, but it’s just a tweaked hamstring. Orakpo said he was worried after he thought he heard it ‘pop’, but the trainer said he was ok.

NFL Network’s Mike Mayock has Orakpo listed as his second-best outside linebacker and one of the five best overall prospects in the draft.

His Pro Day workout will be on March 25.

Arron Curry just ran a 4.54

Cushing followed it up with a 4.64

Cushing drifted to his right in the first 15 yards. He should be able to run better than that his second time.

Pile Jumper just ran a 4.87

ROFL ROFL ROFL

Clay Matthews with a 4.59

Maugula with a 4.83

And pulled up with a foot or ankle injury

Clay Matthews with a great 4.59 time.

Mauluga just pulled up lame after a 4.83.