Oh, by the way, his 'family' told him to stay in school. So, no, he isn't doing what is best for him and his family.

Also, how is the girl going to get any money out of him when he is a backup in his Sophomore year?

Wow, there is nothing not to like about the guy in your eyes. No reason for concern whatsoever.

YOU don't have a ****ing clue what is best for him and his family.

I think this is right on. They just want any QB they can justify taking at #3.

Well, I expect that his family knows, and they told him to stay in school.

Only him and him alone knows whats best for him

It does to me, and those are the specific reasons why I like Sanchez over the other quarterbacks. I also like his family background. They are very strong and supportive, and all show good intelligence and character. Personally, I don't think that his lack of experience means much, especially when almost everyone to a man thinks that he should sit and learn for at least a year, if not two before he even sees long term NFL action.

Gresham would have been the best receiver in this draft if he came out. Guy is a freak. Personally, I'd love to see the Chiefs look seriously at him next year. And their offensive line, especially in college, was utterly dominant.

That is about as dumb of a position as I have ever seen. The guy is 22 years old, he doesn't even know what's best for him. He has had several people try to tell him. Like his father, coach Palmer and of course Pete Carroll.

Oh, and Mecca didn't just say what was best for Sanchez, but Sanchez and his family. His family is fine and wanted him to go back to school because they want the best for him.

When my 7 year old daughter wants to eat all of her Halloween candy in one sitting, she THINKS it is what is best for her. Being older and wiser, I don't allow it.

Now, Sanchez 'thinks' this is what is best for him. And, he isn't listening to anyone tell him differently.

The more I read about him, the happier I will be when the Chiefs don't take him.

I'd be cool with either one. Most would prefer Stafford. I would prefer Sanchez, mostly because of the way scouts have raved about his intangibles, passion, leadership, as well as physical tools. Combine that with Carrol's comments that he'd be the #1 overall pick next year if he stayed, and he's got more talent than Palmer? That's the guy I REALLY want.

But Stafford seems like a legit prospect too, by most accounts even better.

Hell, I would be cool with Cassell as long as we don't give up a high price for him. I don't think that would be the better choice, but if that's how Pioli & Haley thought would be best after their evaluations, then I'll be ok with it.

I just want a franchise QB. Period.

You just want a quarterback, dude. Positional value. Talent be damned.

Stafford and Sanchez aren't worthy of the #3 overall selection. If they're available in the 3rd round, which is what the advisory committee evaluated them at, then it might be safer, and I'd be happier about the pick.

Stafford, Sanchez, Leaf, Freeman, George, Davis. All the same guys.

Which is why we've pilloried the spread monkeys coming out next year.

Nice try, you dumb ****.

That is not what the crew on NFLNetworks Total Access was saying last night with regards to Stafford.

Franchise QB, dude. **** positional value, I don't care about that. Talent is implied with moniker "Franchise QB".

And bullshit they're not worth of #3. If he becomes the man, then years from now they'll say "best value in that draft", regardless of current draft position.

Your comparing a 22 year old to a 7 year old? :spock:

Believe it or not at 22 years of age, most can think for themselves. You can go to war at 18, become a cop at 21, but I am sure that he can't make the correct decision regarding HIS life at 22.

He is going in the first and possibly very high in the 1st, I think it would have been a mistake not to come out. I think Bradford made a mistake going back, but it's just my opinion.

Surprisingly, I was being a smartass and being passive aggressive with the bears, whom we never should have fed.

See post #95, and check the batteries in sarcasm detector.

Your sarcasm meter in on the outs

Eh, I thought so based on some of your other posts, but maybe all the mother****ers on here talking shit about *insert some dumbass suggestion for #3* are getting to me.

Understandable.

Sorry! I totally wiffed on that one. :)

Well, now that I re-read your post I should have caught it. Sorry this shit's getting to me.

I just don't understand some of these fans...

Like I said what he felt it was best for him and his family. They could tell him to stay in school, but he did what he felt was right.

Also, the same way alot of athletes have girls do that same stuff. A backup sophomore can become a jr/sr starter. She would only get the money when he's going pro anyway. You would have to file charges after they hook up also you can't wait till he is the starter and go oh yeah 2 years ago he raped me.

He can do wrong, he is my 2nd best QB in the draft, but I feel he is still worth a #3 pick. IF he would happen to fall, it would be because of his limited experience not his ability, attitude/off field behavior, or anything else really.

Mecca didn't say that, I did. I believe every word of it too. At 22 years of age with a fully functional brain, I'd like to think he can weigh his options and pick what is best. His family might have disagreed and wanted him to graduate, but he might have felt financially, going early was best for them considering the potential rookie cap that might be placed.

I also think Bradford made a mistake by not leaving early. He might get drafted higher next year, but if a new CBA is in place and has a rookie cap, he missed out on a ton of money.

And who's to say this didn't play a BIG factor into his decision, worried about a rookie cap...

Why its true.

Uh oh.......here comes your........confrence bowl game record argument........GAY

Good so they didn't have a dominant WR. Gresham was the 3rd best TE in the conference this year. They were good, but not dominant by any means. OU has had better in the Stoops era.

Off topic, but did anybody read about this kid Devin Moore? Showed some heart and love for the game today. Wyoming running back Devin Moore wasn’t invited to the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

So he held his own.

On Thursday, Moore performed in T-shirt and shorts for scouts who were in town for the much bigger party for which someone who isn’t good enough at scouting to get a scouting job with an NFL team deemed Moore to be unworthy to attend.

According to Gil Brandt of NFL.com and Sirius NFL Radio, representatives from 14 teams attended the workout.

Moore ran the 40-yard dash in 4.43 and 4.41 seconds. Per Brandt, the 4.41 would have been the fifth-fastest time at running back at last year’s Combine.

(That said, we haven’t seen or heard whether the times will be adjusted based on any possible differences between the surface on which Moore ran and the FieldTurf at Lucal Oil Stadium in Indy.)

Moore also jumped 35 inches vertically, 10 feet broadly, pressed 225 pounds 27 times, ran the short-shuttle in 4.22 and 4.29 seconds, and performed the three-cone drill in 7.14 seconds.

Since Moore resides in Indianapolis, he was permitted to arrange a workout there. Otherwise, he would have had to wait until the Wyoming Pro Day.

Sorry. I was kind of a jerk there.

I think a junior that has played at least two full years is fine coming out. I think a junior that has only started one year at the QB position should go back.

I joined the Navy at 18. I thought I was doing what was 'best' for me. I then became a Deputy Sheriff at 22, because I thought I was doing what was 'best' for me. I got married at 22, again... thought it was best for me.

All of them were mistakes....and frankly, I think this is a mistake for him too.

But, that is jmho.

That is just more rationalization for taking a QB THIS year.

Do you know that the girls mother is who called the police. Again, there is NO way that she can get money out of this. Now, it could be some other motive, but the money angle is BS.

She can't get money to not file charges if he won't have any for two years.

I think the fact that Tyler Thigpen was our stater last year and that there are 2 QB's deemed worthy to be taken in the top 10 is enough rational for taking a qb this year.

For the record I would take Sanchez with the number one pick if we were in that position.

No I didn't know that, I've only heard about it vaguely and have not gotten all details. From what I have heard it sounded to me like a Kobe thing. From what I have heard, he was not charged with anything due to lack of evidence. The three witnesses, one of which was a friend of both Sanchez and the girl and another was Cushing, all supported Sanchez. Also, I saw that times were messed up her initial report said that the assault happened at 12:30, but Sanchez was still at the bar at this time. Then the reports said 1:30 when Sanchez was helping 2 other USC Students push their car, which had ran out of gas, to a parking stall.

The money thing is what I still see in this. Just because he didn't have the money she was looking for in 2006 doesn't mean a guy who was once regarded as the top high school QB in the country won't have money. It's like Sherron Collins was originally to pay around $75k to the girl that said he did the elevator stuff, when he was only a sophomore. She saw NBA dollars...even if he doesn't go to the NBA people still see it.

ROFL

He asked, and he received!

And I will have NO problem with that whatsoever. Just like a rational, knowledgeable football fan should.

LMAO

It's a bunch of ****ing bullshit. The guy didn't play in Blacksburg VA. for Christ's sake.

Sanchez is not a "reach". Alot of people have him as a top 3 pick already and his combine will solidify that.

Great opinion on the subject!

In my expert opinion, I agree with you.

I am an expert on this btw. I once was an assistant JH Football coach for a 3 year span. After seeing one kid play for just one full practice, I proclaimed "that kid's gonna be 6'5", 230lbs, and have a laser rocket arm." That particular kid had a little brother who would watch the practices and was kind of the team mascot. He was just a little tike then, but people sure loved him because of his big brother.

what??

I don't understand this. He was a really productive player. He's a little small, but no smaller than a lot of other backs in the league. He'd be a great change of pace back for a team like the Giants.

Iglesias, you wonderful, wonderful young man:

Apparently he didn't watch the AFC West D's this year :)

On the flip side Chase Daniels was on 610 this afternoon and he said in his informal interviews last night all the teams told him that in 1-2 years 80% of the teams in the NFL will be running some version of the spread offense as their primary offense.

Now they could be blowing smoke up his ass but that is what he was told.

Reminds me of something...

9/22/08

Earlier this week to Austin Chief

I'd love it if they did! Smart teams will play REAL Offense, and the talent level at the QB position will be so stark and defined coming out of college, making a pick becomes that much easier.
Tearing apart those spread offenses at the pro level becomes that much easier.

VIVA LA STUPID! :D

You got it brother! :thumb::toast:

CANT be true. ask any of these "experts" here. thats a HS offense nothing more:D

Why do people bring up the Sanchez arrest thing when it was completely thrown out? There was so little evidence it was laughed about...

That would be like if someone accused you of something the cops went jesus there's no evidence at all throw that shit out, and 3 years later people acted like you did it.

Goddammit, Sauto, you will speak only when spoken to.

ROFL whatever

I think it's funny to see people try to hold onto the spread like it's the future...isn't your college team doing it enough?

I tried to tell him...they even said "by all means go ahead we are sure you will not find anything" when the DA wanted an extra week to try and find any evidence at all, IIRC.

Logic just doesn't apply, like the people who automatically assume he wasn't good enough to beat out Booty when it's been explained 500 times what happened, and then they act like it didn't happen.

LMAO

Mmm. The Peckerson Stockholm Syndrome has MANY faces, and all of them ugly as a two ruble Ukranian whore.

I get really tired of having to explain the same shit everyday, it's like some posters have Alzheimer's.

Yet the same poster who doesn't like Sanchez jumps up and down because I said Crabtree isn't elite...

maybe some people just dont put too much stock in what you say

Or maybe they're stupid?

Isn't it ironic that most of the posters that don't like Sanchez love that short slow WR from the spread offense?

short? 6'3" is short? slow? we dont know about that. he hasnt ran

He measured at 6'1 today pal, he isn't 6'3.

Look at this.
Look at how stupid you are.

why because EVERY site about crabtree has him at 6'3"? **** if he was measured today how the **** would i know? i actually work for a living

Schedule light Fridays.

cant. mondays set up the week, and fridays it seems as though EVERYONE needs something done. cant let that money walk somewhere else. people are creatures of habit. if they HAVE to have it done and i cant do it they will go somewhere else and next time probably call there first, at least thats what i tell myself when i'm cramming all that shit in on a friday:D moneys good though

see hamas maybe im not so stupid after all

LMAO

I agree. Don't ever force your customer to go to a competitor. Some of them will like him better.

Write that down.

I find myself contemplating what "warm and fuzzy" customer service from Skip Towne must be like.

ROFL

I can only speculate, but I'm betting that even if Stafford is sitting there with Sanchez, and Pioli pulls the trigger on a QB, he will take Sanchez.

Stafford is more physically gifted, by only by a small margin, but Sanchez brings more in terms of intangibles.

I would, as well.

Misnomer much?

All the more reason to believe Sanchez is all of that and a bag of potato chips.

Because the biggest intangible -- can this guy handle being an NFL quarterback? -- is absolutely impossible to measure, no matter how many times you interview someone or watch him play.

I can live with that. I like Sanchez better too. I'd be happy with Stafford though. Either way and I'd feel we got good value for the #3 pick.

I really hope we have the option to pick either one of these guys. Right now, the Saturday morning of the combine, I prefer Stafford slightly to Sanchez. But either one is fine by me.

While that's true, one can get a sense of an individual's mental toughness from watching him play, interacting with teammates, how he handles pressure in the pocket, and how he handles himself under scrutiny from the media, as well as how he interviews.

The level of comfort and confidence that Sanchez displays in these situations gives one a feeling that he is more mature and better equipped emotionally to make the transition.

You want a QB to have that much confidence. Everyone I have ever seen that succeeded greatly had extremely high confidence.

I agree about Sanchez, but then, I was also enamored with Joey Harrington's intangibles.

I guess what I'm saying is that there's a reason why they're called that.

My memory is hazy, but I think that Harrington played in a spread, and as we've seen, those guys don't transition all that well to the NFL.

I also liked Harrington's intangibles, but he's a guy that should have sat and learned and worked on his mechanics for a couple of years before he was thrown out there.

I also thought that he was a system specific QB, and the Lions offense was a bad fit.

The one thing I didn't really see in Harrington was maturity

I think all these things worked to stunt his development, and he has never recovered.

I think the big thing with both these guys is how will they be handled by the staff. Guys like Harrington may have had more success with a better team and better coaching. Harringtons confidence was destroyed by year 3. How the coaches bring them along will be immense. Every guy will react differently and need different things from their coaches in transitioning to the NFL. Archie Manning got his a-- kicked repeatidly and kept coming. If we dont pass block well we better have more 3 step drops and quick passes to help out. If they arent ready we cant push em either.

Yes...said much better than my rambling...

I'd wager the gist of today's interview, on the non-playing side, was something to this effect:

"We're looking for a guy who can not only learn the job at the professional level and take direction well, but someone who can be a leader quickly and is prepared to call Kansas City home for a long time to come".

"Can you do this"?

:shrug: