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MadMax 03-03-2009 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 5550170)
I do. In fact, I think he will be a good player in this scheme. The great news is that we get to find out in a few months just how 'reeruned' I am.




Eeeeew, fun times ahead for you.. :) I predict he will be what he is, a not so good QB. I hope I am wrong.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-03-2009 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MadMax (Post 5551369)
Eeeeew, fun times ahead for you.. :) I predict he will be what he is, a not so good QB. I hope I am wrong.

I feel like a kid waiting for the latest gaming console for Christmas.

In August.

MadMax 03-03-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5551421)
I feel like a kid waiting for the latest gaming console for Christmas.

In August.



Should be very entertaining here ;) I can't wait.

htismaqe 03-03-2009 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 5551186)
Snoop, Parker and Alexander had great careers after 2001.

Chris Thomas FTW! ROFL

JohnnyV13 03-03-2009 03:34 PM

Wow...don't you get how clever Gretz is? He's hoping to make us THINK Cassel is the next Len Dawson by saying he hopes the fans don't think that.

The Buddha 03-03-2009 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 5551624)
Wow...don't you get how clever Gretz is? He's hoping to make us THINK Cassel is the next Len Dawson by saying he hopes the fans don't think that.

This is classic psychology. Like saying that I am not as good looking as Johnny Depp... Now, you're already associating the two of us, whereas before, there was absolutely NO correlation whatsoever.

milkman 03-04-2009 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 5551624)
Wow...don't you get how clever Gretz is? He's hoping to make us THINK Cassel is the next Len Dawson by saying he hopes the fans don't think that.

From a physical standpoint, the comparison has merit.

Neither had/have exceptional arms, both were/are prototypical pocket passers who had/have enough mobility to escape the rush.

Both were/are accurate in the short to intermediate passing game.

Lenny threw a better deep ball, though, and he was the unquestioned leader of his Chiefs teams.
He also was as cool in pressure situations as any QB to ever play the game.

The fact that both were backups for years before moving to the Chiefs and getting the chance to be the team's starter also leads Gretz to that comparison.

Cassel has a long way to go before the comparison can gain any legs.

TimeForWasp 04-29-2012 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5553384)
From a physical standpoint, the comparison has merit.

Neither had/have exceptional arms, both were/are prototypical pocket passers who had/have enough mobility to escape the rush.

Both were/are accurate in the short to intermediate passing game.

Lenny threw a better deep ball, though, and he was the unquestioned leader of his Chiefs teams.
He also was as cool in pressure situations as any QB to ever play the game.

The fact that both were backups for years before moving to the Chiefs and getting the chance to be the team's starter also leads Gretz to that comparison.

Cassel has a long way to go before the comparison can gain any legs.

Good point :thumb:

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2012 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 5550076)
I really don't know. I just hope we improve this D, so Cassel can lead this team to some wins.

LOL

-King- 04-29-2012 01:20 AM

Why the **** was this bumped?
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Chiefspants 04-29-2012 01:26 AM

Lol, there are some terrific nuggets in here.

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5550080)
I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 5550161)
What kind of complete deluded moron could possibly believe anything so painfully reeruned?

Well, at least we were wrong about Tamba, if only we could say the same thing about Mark Castle..

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2012 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5550080)
I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?

LOL Ouch

TimeForWasp 04-29-2012 01:54 AM

To think I was happy about getting Cassel at this time.:banghead:

kcxiv 04-29-2012 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5550080)
I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?

lol!

bevischief 04-29-2012 08:11 AM

Just ban them...

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SenselessChiefsFan (Post 5550067)
Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game.

Jon Kitna career stats:

60.3 %
6.7 YPA

Matt Cassel career stats:

59%
6.6 YPA

:facepalm:

FloridaMan88 04-29-2012 08:29 AM

Cassel is more like Lake Dawson than Len Dawson

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by MahiMike (Post 5550093)
Cassel is much better than Kitna. I'd say closer to a Brad Johnson when he was with the Vikings.

Brad Johnson career stats:

61.7%
6.7 YPA

Brad Johnson when he was with the Vikings

61.6%
7.2 YPA

Matt Cassel career stats:

59%
6.6 YPA

:facepalm:

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 08:39 AM

BTW, Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
6.39 YPA

http://behindblondiepark.com/wp-cont...jon-kitna1.jpg

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images...jpg?1291951498

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8580363)
Cassel is more like Lake Dawson than Len Dawson

Career playoff appearances

Lake Dawson: 3
Matt Cassel: 1

:facepalm:

BoneKrusher 04-29-2012 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580376)
Career playoff appearances

Lake Dawson: 3
Matt Cassel: 1

:facepalm:

very interesting LMAO

FloridaMan88 04-29-2012 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580376)
Career playoff appearances

Lake Dawson: 3
Matt Cassel: 1

:facepalm:

Shit, Cassel can't even compare to Lake Dawson.

Coogs 04-29-2012 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SenselessChiefsFan (Post 5550067)
I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson.

So he is going to be a Sportscaster? Who knew? :shrug:

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh (Post 5550960)
I don't think it's a stretch to think matt could turnout better than green.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_Bfgd297oBv0/..._070606_ms.jpg

Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
6.39 YPA

Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
7.7 YPA

boogblaster 04-29-2012 08:54 AM

ima gettin' sick .. again .....

FloridaMan88 04-29-2012 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580397)
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Bfgd297oBv0/..._070606_ms.jpg

Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
6.39 YPA

Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
7.7 YPA

Give Trent Green the Chiefs current defense and it is reasonable to think they could have made a legit Super Bowl run.

Hammock Parties 04-29-2012 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 5550816)
How about we just let Cassel be the first Matt Cassel?

According to his Chiefs stats he's roughly the second Steve Bono.

BoneKrusher 04-29-2012 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580397)
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Bfgd297oBv0/..._070606_ms.jpg

Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
6.39 YPA

Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
7.7 YPA

Trent was surrounded with a great cast on offense but the defense couldn't stop a team led by Pee Wee Herman.

milkman 04-29-2012 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8580377)
Wow what a shock, you are spewing Fat Scott's talking points that the Chiefs don't have any immediate needs to fill on the roster.

Teams like the NY Giants don't have immediate needs and can afford to draft strictly for depth in the early parts ot he draft.

Teams like the Chiefs who are coming off a 7-9 season and set the franchise record for fewest points scored per game don't have that luxury.

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8580406)
Give Trent Green the Chiefs current defense and it is reasonable to think they could have made a legit Super Bowl run.

On the one hand, I am "spewing Fat Scott's talking points".

On the other, this team, with Trent Green, could make a legit SB run.

Which is it?

whoman69 04-29-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8580413)
Trent was surrounded with a great cast on offense but the defense couldn't stop a team led by Pee Wee Herman.

I know you are, but what am I...Francis

Ultra Peanut 04-29-2012 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut (Post 5550160)
I think you're ****ing reeruned.

http://i.imgur.com/L0qfX.gif

Bowser 04-29-2012 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8580406)
Give Trent Green the Chiefs current defense and it is reasonable to think they could have made a legit Super Bowl run.

Those '03 and '04 teams with our current defense would have been unstoppable.

Ultra Peanut 04-29-2012 12:56 PM

I would rather have 42* year old Trent Green than 30 year old Matt Cassel.

* :deevee:

FloridaMan88 04-29-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8580415)
On the one hand, I am "spewing Fat Scott's talking points".

On the other, this team, with Trent Green, could make a legit SB run.

Which is it?

JFC You are a dumbshit.

Let's walk through this nice and slowly so even someone at your advanced age can comprehend.

What position did Trent Green play? QB

Where is the Chiefs biggest hole on their roster? QB

What is the most important position in the NFL currently towards winning a Super Bowl? QB

Al Bundy 04-29-2012 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580410)
According to his Chiefs stats he's roughly the second Steve Bono.

But does he like Kansas City's restaurant's?

okcchief 04-29-2012 01:52 PM

He's not the next Lake Dawson. Give me a ****ing break.

007 04-29-2012 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Satanic Goat (Post 8580397)
http://bp2.blogger.com/_Bfgd297oBv0/..._070606_ms.jpg

Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
6.39 YPA

Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
7.7 YPA

Difference being, Trent Green knew how to manage an offense.

milkman 04-29-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8581076)
JFC You are a dumbshit.

Let's walk through this nice and slowly so even someone at your advanced age can comprehend.

What position did Trent Green play? QB

Where is the Chiefs biggest hole on their roster? QB

What is the most important position in the NFL currently towards winning a Super Bowl? QB

I am not the dipshit who doesn't get it.

On the one hand, you bitch about that lack of talent on this roster, telling me that I "spew Fat Scott's tlking points.

On the other, you claim that Trent Green would be capable of leading this team to a SB.

QB is our biggest hole.
Everyone knows that.

But you don't get to SB with a roster devoid of talent, even with an outstanding QB.

So, which is it?
Is this team lacking the talent, or is this team that is a QB away from contending?

You can't have it both ways, dipshit.

Dave Lane 04-29-2012 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 8580174)
Lol, there are some terrific nuggets in here.





Well, at least we were wrong about Tamba, if only we could say the same thing about Mark Castle..

Well mine at least was at least kind of tongue in cheek I thought there was a chance Tamba could pull it off.

BigMeatballDave 04-29-2012 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 8581494)
Well mine at least was at least kind of tongue in cheek I thought there was a chance Tamba could pull it off.

Yeah.

Mecca was ADAMANT that Hali could not play OLB. There are several posts to prove it.

He avoids this topic like the Plague.

Simply Red 04-29-2012 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5550080)
I dunno the same people who think Tamba Hali can play OLB?

What a fraudulent google searcher you are. Your football opinions are turds.

Psyko Tek 04-29-2012 09:42 PM

I thin Cassell can be the next MItch Holthiss


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