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Delano 03-24-2009 02:24 PM

In 2013 you clowns can celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Kansas City Chiefs and the arrowhead helmet.

2009 is the 50th anniversary of the AFL and in 1959-1962 the franchise was in Dallas.

Nothing to get bent outta shape for.

Mr. Krab 03-24-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5607147)
WTF is the problem? They weren't the Chiefs in 1959.

The problem is that this ISN'T Texas!!!

The problem is that this isn't just a style or a color, this actually shows a outline picture of another state on the uniform.

The problem is the picture of the other state that is on the helmet is still active in the NFL.

The problem is the other state on our helmet will actually be our OPPONENT in one of these games.

It's beyond stupid



**** Texas, **** everyone in Texas


If they use the AFL logo instead and i'm fine with it.

The Franchise 03-24-2009 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607172)
The problem is that this ISN'T Texas!!!

The problem is that this isn't just a style or a color, this actually shows a outline picture of another state on the uniform.

The problem is the picture of the other state that is on the helmet is still active in the NFL.

The problem is the other state on our helmet with actually be our OPPONENT in one of these games.

It's beyond stupid



**** Texas, **** everyone in Texas

Oh settle the **** down Nancy.

Mr. Krab 03-24-2009 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pestilenceaf23 (Post 5607178)
Oh settle the **** down Nancy.

hehe :moon:

L.A. Chieffan 03-24-2009 02:30 PM

kfc, when the dodgers wear a "B" on their hats i don't turn into ****ing John Hinckley

SBK 03-24-2009 02:30 PM

Bunch of you must have slept in a sandpit last night and not cleaned your 'giners out this morning.

talastan 03-24-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607172)
The problem is that this ISN'T Texas!!!

The problem is that this isn't just a style or a color, this actually shows a outline picture of another state on the uniform.

The problem is the picture of the other state that is on the helmet is still active in the NFL.

The problem is the other state on our helmet will actually be our OPPONENT in one of these games.

It's beyond stupid



**** Texas, **** everyone in Texas


If they use the AFL logo instead and i'm fine with it.

Careful n00b, while I see your point, there's no reason to throw a fit about it.

Mr. Krab 03-24-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5607148)
The Chiefs were founded on Texas oil money.

Just remember that.

Of course you are for it, you live in Houston.

Mr. Krab 03-24-2009 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by talastan (Post 5607196)
Careful n00b, while I see your point, there's no reason to throw a fit about it.

I think i might of pulled a groin with that post. :D

Hammock Parties 03-24-2009 02:33 PM

That really has nothing to do with it. I'm all for ****ing Texas up the ass.

I just respect the origins of the franchise and enjoy a changeup.

Delano 03-24-2009 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607203)
I think i might of pulled a groin with that post. :D

There's nothing quite like hate masturbation.

jimhitter 03-24-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607200)
Of course you are for it, you live in Houston.

Hmmm. Texas seems to be a hot button for you. What are your thoughts on Alabama or Wyoming or New Hampshire?

'Hamas' Jenkins 03-24-2009 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5607148)
The Chiefs were founded on Texas oil money.

Just remember that.

And they've been supported for the last 45+ years outside of that mosquito-infested shithole.

Mr. Krab 03-24-2009 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimhitter (Post 5607218)
Hmmm. Texas seems to be a hot button for you. What are your thoughts on Alabama or Wyoming or New Hampshire?

If we wear those Texan uni's this year does that mean we are actually part of "America's Team"? :grr:


How 'bout dem Chiefs!?!?

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 02:40 PM

50 ****ing years old we are, and we have to travel back in time to another STATE, to get a Throwback look happening!?

For the LOVE OF GOD; put the Pele soccer socks, and "Go on and take a free ride"-look of the 1970's to bed, and give me a NEW UNI.

tomahawk kid 03-24-2009 02:40 PM

Jesus, folks.

The Titans are wearing the original Oilers uni's with an oil derrick on the helmet.

I wonder if they're pitching a fit?

Seriously - our franchise was originally based in Texas. Who gives a flying fuck if we have the old logo on our helmet for a few games?

Delano 03-24-2009 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607229)
50 ****ing years old we are, and we have to travel back in time to another STATE, to get a Throwback look happening!?

For the LOVE OF GOD; put the Pele soccer socks, and "Go on and take a free ride"-look of the 1970's to bed, and give me a NEW UNI.

Dumbass.

You want some sweet graphics on the helmet, ehh Mr. Crap E. Photoshop?

ChiefsCountry 03-24-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607226)
If we wear those Texan uni's this year does that mean we are actually part of "America's Team"? :grr:


How 'bout dem Chiefs!?!?

Man you are a giner about this.

L.A. Chieffan 03-24-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607229)
50 ****ing years old we are, and we have to travel back in time to another STATE, to get a Throwback look happening!?

For the LOVE OF GOD; put the Pele soccer socks, and "Go on and take a free ride"-look of the 1970's to bed, and give me a NEW UNI.

:clap::clap::):D:D:(:eek::cuss::cuss:ROFL:spock::spock:

kcfanXIII 03-24-2009 02:42 PM

you guys have to trust pioli on this. he knows what he's doing.

Spott 03-24-2009 02:43 PM

I don't care if we wear the Texans uniforms, but we shouldn't be wearing our old Dallas uniforms when we are playing the freaking Cowboys. I think it would be a better idea if we just wore them when we played all of the teams in our division since they are all original AFL teams.

Also, **** Texas.

L.A. Chieffan 03-24-2009 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 5607238)
you guys have to trust pioli on this. he knows what he's doing.

He can run through anyone

Spott 03-24-2009 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5607230)
Jesus, folks.

The Titans are wearing the original Oilers uni's with an oil derrick on the helmet.

I wonder if they're pitching a fit?

Seriously - our franchise was originally based in Texas. Who gives a flying fuck if we have the old logo on our helmet for a few games?


I wonder if the Titans will wear those Oiler uniforms when they play in Houston.

Fish 03-24-2009 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607229)
50 ****ing years old we are, and we have to travel back in time to another STATE, to get a Throwback look happening!?

For the LOVE OF GOD; put the Pele soccer socks, and "Go on and take a free ride"-look of the 1970's to bed, and give me a NEW UNI.

Yeah... let's take style suggestions from the guy who's ever-changing sig resembles an 80's Crest toothpaste ad.

ChiefsCountry 03-24-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 5607241)
I don't care if we wear the Texans uniforms, but we shouldn't be wearing our old Dallas uniforms when we are playing the freaking Cowboys. I think it would be a better idea if we just wore them when we played all of the teams in our division since they are all original AFL teams.

Also, **** Texas.

The Cowboys game is the perfect one for it IMO. They are the reason the Chiefs are in Kansas City. Also every stinking bandwagon fan of the Cowboys should no the real reason why their team is around.

mikey23545 03-24-2009 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607229)
50 ****ing years old we are, and we have to travel back in time to another STATE, to get a Throwback look happening!?

For the LOVE OF GOD; put the Pele soccer socks, and "Go on and take a free ride"-look of the 1970's to bed, and give me a NEW UNI.

Finally, proof that a negative IQ is possible.

Good work, GoSuck.

DeezNutz 03-24-2009 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcfanXIII (Post 5607238)
you guys have to trust pioli on this. he knows what he's doing.

ROFL

Delano 03-24-2009 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 5607254)
The Cowboys game is the perfect one for it IMO. They are the reason the Chiefs are in Kansas City. Also every stinking bandwagon fan of the Cowboys should no the real reason why their team is around.

It is beautiful ****in' symbolism that is beyond the knuckle-draggers who are bemoaning the helmet.

Agent V 03-24-2009 02:57 PM

For whoever said they wanted a CHIEFS throwback, the Chiefs ARE wearing throwbacks. Their uniforms haven't ****ing changed. Thus, in honor of the AFL's 50th Anniversary, they're going as far back as they can.

Really, it's just a marketing ploy to sell more jerseys. Not a big deal.

Jethopper 03-24-2009 02:58 PM

Texas is just a bigger version of Mobilehoma.

crazycoffey 03-24-2009 03:05 PM

wow, just wow. waste our time somemore with another fight about something I couldn't give two shits about. We were the texans first, so freakin what.

"But, we'll have the state of texas on our helmets, OH NOESSSSSS!!!11!! - I hate it so much, I'm going to petition to change a decision that has already been made, and waste my time and others, bitching about something we have absolutely zero control over!!!11!!!"

Frazod 03-24-2009 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chief103182 (Post 5607279)
For whoever said they wanted a CHIEFS throwback, the Chiefs ARE wearing throwbacks. Their uniforms haven't ****ing changed. Thus, in honor of the AFL's 50th Anniversary, they're going as far back as they can.

Really, it's just a marketing ploy to sell more jerseys. Not a big deal.

Who the hell would buy a helmet with Texas on the side of it?

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5607233)
Dumbass.

You want some sweet graphics on the helmet, ehh Mr. Crap E. Photoshop?

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 5607250)
Yeah... let's take style suggestions from the guy who's ever-changing sig resembles an 80's Crest toothpaste ad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5607257)
Finally, proof that a negative IQ is possible.

Good work, GoSuck.

Hey tools! The Chiefs just announced the Official Car for the 2009 Season!
Unfortunately, the spokesman is dead:

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crazycoffey 03-24-2009 03:08 PM

If you really wanted to make a petition about the texans, you should have fought Houston stealing our team's heritage.

Hammock Parties 03-24-2009 03:08 PM

I'd like to hear what Len Dawson has to say about this. I'm sure his opinion would shut a few of you up.

crazycoffey 03-24-2009 03:10 PM

I think it's a good idea, and wish we were actually playing Dallas in Texas this year for it. I'd make the trip just for that game.

L.A. Chieffan 03-24-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5607330)
I'd like to hear what Len Dawson has to say about this. I'm sure his opinion would shut a few of you up.

He can run through anyone

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5607330)
I'd like to hear what Len Dawson has to say about this. I'm sure his opinion would shut a few of you up.

Hey, I'm down with it! That's our history, and that's cool with me! And we deserve the **** OUT OF IT for looking like the "McChiefs" for 40 ****ing years.

Sal-ute!

BigCatDaddy 03-24-2009 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frazod (Post 5607311)
Who the hell would buy a helmet with Texas on the side of it?

Someone from Texas maybe?

Jethopper 03-24-2009 03:29 PM

That Cordoba looks like it rides like a covered wagon.

rad 03-24-2009 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607137)
ROFLROFLROFLOH MY GOD; they ARE gonna' wear the Texans Rig!!!!ROFLROFLROFL

We had this discussion last week! I was like; "what are they gonna' "throwback" to, the Texans Helmet"?

Good grief...:doh!:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607138)
We are actually gonna have a picture of TEXAS on our uniforms while playing against a team from Texas. Just irritating as hell.



"Hey everybody, it's promote Texas day at Arrowhead!! Buy your free Texas memorabilia at the nearest vendor. All proceeds will go to feed the homeless down in Houston."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spott (Post 5607245)
I wonder if the Titans will wear those Oiler uniforms when they play in Houston.

LOL at all these petty mother****ers.....Texas bias>the point.

KCChiefsMan 03-24-2009 03:35 PM

I like it!

MOhillbilly 03-24-2009 03:40 PM

i like texas & people in dallas got hair.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethopper (Post 5607385)
That Cordoba looks like it rides like a covered wagon.

Hey, man; that's the ride of the future! The FUTURE! :rolleyes:

Order a Matt Cassel jersey today, and get your choice of two of the hottest new items on the market today as a bonus:

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KCSupersized 03-24-2009 04:03 PM

I think it's a crock of shit!

CaliforniaChief 03-24-2009 04:14 PM

I love the picture on kcchiefs.com...
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/03...forms_in_2009/

Particularly touching is the shot of McDaniels holding the #6 jersey in the shot. Cutler's gotta cut and paste that shot all over his home computer wallpaper.

MagicHef 03-24-2009 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5607481)
I love the picture on kcchiefs.com...
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/03...forms_in_2009/

Particularly touching is the shot of McDaniels holding the #6 jersey in the shot. Cutler's gotta cut and paste that shot all over his home computer wallpaper.

Or he could use this one:

http://www.denverbroncos.com/resourc...sey_090324.jpg

Hammock Parties 03-24-2009 04:19 PM

God McDaniels looks like a douchebag.

CaliforniaChief 03-24-2009 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 5607484)

I might just have to use that as my avatar. Priceless...thanks!

kysirsoze 03-24-2009 04:23 PM

I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I can't believe this is a big deal, even on CP. It would absolutely defy logic for the rest of the original AFL teams to wear their original unis and have the Chiefs pick one the fans prefer. Is anyone going to see the TX on their helmet and actually be confused? Or do you really hate TX THAT much?

If we were throwing back to the 'Pyongyang North Koreans' I could understand the problem.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5607492)
I guess I shouldn't be surprised but I can't believe this is a big deal, even on CP. It would absolutely defy logic for the rest of the original AFL teams to wear their original unis and have the Chiefs pick one the fans prefer. Is anyone going to see the TX on their helmet and actually be confused? Or do you really hate TX THAT much?

If we were throwing back to the 'Pyongyang North Koreans' I could understand the problem.

I don't see it as an "insult" to Kansas City or the Chiefs at all, it's simply that there IS NOTHING ELSE to "throw back" to.

I mean, we could trot out some ancient cleats and possibly the helmets from the late 60's/70's with the ULTRA HUGE Arrowhead on them, but the footwear would slow the guys down, and those old helmets would probably get them killed in today's game! ROFL

KcMizzou 03-24-2009 04:43 PM

Meh, I'm not wild about it, but when you see all the unis together like this, it's kinda cool I guess. Lamar would have liked it. If they were going to do it, they should have done it before he passed.

http://www.kcchiefs.com/media/images...77378207942917

kysirsoze 03-24-2009 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607511)
I don't see it as an "insult" to Kansas City or the Chiefs at all, it's simply that there IS NOTHING ELSE to "throw back" to.

I mean, we could trot out some ancient cleats and possibly the helmets from the late 60's/70's with the ULTRA HUGE Arrowhead on them, but the footwear would slow the guys down, and those old helmets would probably get them killed in today's game! ROFL

I kind of like that the Chiefs uniforms have always been basically the same. I like the unity of tradition, even if we are the official team of Ronald McDonald. :shrug:

SAUTO 03-24-2009 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 5606951)

was that first picture taken back when mecca still drank?

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 5607534)
I kind of like that the Chiefs uniforms have always been basically the same. I like the unity of tradition, even if we are the official team of Ronald McDonald. :shrug:

By George, I've got it!

We'll "throw back" the playbook too!

Hit' em with a "65-toss power-trap", Todd!

Larry and Jamal to the Elephant Backfield!!! ROFL

Jethopper 03-24-2009 04:59 PM

Could it be....It.....IT IS!!!! ITS THE OL' MARYLAND-I!!!!!

BigRock 03-24-2009 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 5607484)

He's like LOL CUTLER

Jethopper 03-24-2009 05:07 PM

The color guard bringing the flags into the stadiums should wear throwbacks also.... Pantaloons, 8 peice wool suits with brass buttons, monocle, and wielding a standard issue brown bess musket with all the queens trimmings.

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethopper (Post 5607582)
The color guard bringing the flags into the stadiums should wear throwbacks also.... Pantaloons, 8 peice wool suits with brass buttons, monocle, and wielding a standard issue brown bess musket with all the queens trimmings.

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

TO THE CORDOBA!!!! CRANK THE ELO!!!!!ROFL

REP!

Imon Yourside 03-24-2009 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethopper (Post 5607582)
The color guard bringing the flags into the stadiums should wear throwbacks also.... Pantaloons, 8 peice wool suits with brass buttons, monocle, and wielding a standard issue brown bess musket with all the queens trimmings.

friggin hilarious!

wild1 03-24-2009 05:15 PM

eh, one game against Dallas I can see, but three times?

aturnis 03-24-2009 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5607172)
The problem is that this ISN'T Texas!!!

The problem is that this isn't just a style or a color, this actually shows a outline picture of another state on the uniform.

The problem is the picture of the other state that is on the helmet is still active in the NFL.

The problem is the other state on our helmet will actually be our OPPONENT in one of these games.

It's beyond stupid



**** Texas, **** everyone in Texas


If they use the AFL logo instead and i'm fine with it.


Yes, we understand that your, among others, understanding of the history of the Kansas City Chiefs is lacking. Maybe we can convince you to educate yourself though. Try watching the History of the Kansas City Chiefs. Which C-MAC has been so kind as to provide you the opportunity to watch at anytime you please.

The Dallas Texans aren't just the team the Kansas City Chiefs USED to be. They ARE the Kansas City Chiefs, they are Lamar Hunts heart and soul, they ARE the NFL. Anyone who doesn't recognize this, is an idiot. You should be honored to have the opportunity to see their likeness displayed proudly by the Chiefs, and yet...you are not.

In response to this mindset brought forth by a few "uneducated" Chiefs fans on this board, I've written this rebuttal. I admit I borrowed heavily from Wikipedia, but re-wrote a lot of it, b/c I didn't care for the way it was all written. All in all, you should get the point.


Lamar Hunt loved sports, and most of all, in the late 1950's, he loved football. His dream was to bring professional football to his hometown of Dallas, TX. So, in 1959, on the strength of his great inherited oil wealth, Hunt applied for a National Football League expansion franchise. He was turned down. At this time, professional football was a distant second to Major League Baseball in the hearts of the American people. The thinking among NFL executives was that the league must be careful not to "oversaturate" the market by expanding too quickly.

So in 1960, Hunt decided to respond to the NFL's decision. Hunt took it upon himself, along with fellow Texan and oil man K.S. Bud Adams of Houston(who had also tried and failed to be granted an NFL franchise) to form the American Football League. Hunt and Adams rallied six other like-minded wealthy men to form this new league. The group of the eight founders of the AFL teams was referred to as the "Foolish Club." Hunt's goal was to bring professional football to Texas and to acquire an NFL team for the Hunt family. Hunt became owner of the Dallas Texans and hired future hall-of-famer Hank Stram as the team's first head coach.

In his first words to his team, head coach Hank Stram said to his players and personnel, "I don't know how long this league is going to last. I don't know what will happen, but when the end comes, I want to make sure, that we are going to wind up being, the winning est team, in the history of the American Football League".

Later in 1960, in response to this move by Hunt and the "Foolish Eight" the NFL, who just months before had turned down Lamar Hunt's request for an expansion team, created the Dallas Cowboys. A strategy designed specifically to drive the AFL out of Dallas.

The Dallas Texans won the AFL Championship in 1962 over the 2-time defending champion Houston Oilers in the longest professional game ever played as of that time and were one of the most successful AFL teams in the league's early days. But the Texans' success failed to draw fans in large numbers, as the Texans had to compete for fan loyalty with their cross-town NFL rivals, the Dallas Cowboys.

Though the Texans/Chiefs had always considered themselves to be vaunted rivals of the Dallas Cowboys. The two teams never faced off in competition while residing in the same city. I for one, consider this match-up to be quite fitting for the AFL's 50th anniversary, and one that I know Clark Hunt, wishes he father were still alive to see.

It is obvious to you, what the Chiefs do for you and Kansas City, but you should open your eyes to what Lamar Hunt and the Texans did for the Chiefs. Without the Texans, the Chiefs, and the NFL as we know it, would cease to be.

The effect the AFL has had on football have been long standing. The rosters of the AFL were always stocked with a certain number of players who would have excelled in any league -- and that number grew as the 1960s progressed. The best AFL coaches and owners, many of them new to the pro game, brought color, excitement and important new strategic and marketing ideas to pro football, which had often been dominated by play-calling which overrated the value of eliminating mistakes and underrated the element of surprise. While the NFL was always almost certainly the better league as a whole, the best teams of the AFL were increasingly the equals of any team in the NFL.

The AFL also substantially raised football players' salaries by frequently bidding against the NFL for the top college stars. It was the NFL's concern for containing salaries, more than anything else, that led a reluctant NFL to accept a merger between the two leagues in 1970. The older league could no longer claim to be far superior because by then the AFL champion New York Jets had defeated the vaunted Baltimore Colts of the NFL to win the Super Bowl. The Chiefs' triumph over the Vikings the following season further showcased the AFL's ability.

Today's "descendants" from the AFL, the Patriots, Bills, Jets, Titans, Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers, Dolphins and Bengals would not have existed if it hadn’t been for Lamar Hunt. What’s more, the NFL’s Cowboys, created specifically to drive the AFL out of Dallas, would not have existed. Neither would the Vikings, an NFL franchise that was given to Max Winter to pull out of the original eight-team American Football League; nor would the Falcons, which the NFL gave to Rankin Smith to deter him from the AFL’s Miami franchise. Neither would the Saints, whose franchise was granted by the NFL after certain Louisiana congressmen pushed the AFL-NFL merger to completion. Or the Houston Texans, created to replace the Houston Oilers after they moved to Tennessee and became the Tennessee Titans. Thus, fifteen professional football teams would not have existed in fifteen cities today, if Lamar Hunt had not had the vision and the courage to “fight the establishment”.

In 1972, Lamar Hunt became the first American Football League personage inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. A true testament to the lasting effect his life has left on the game of football. The trophy presented to each year's AFC Champions is named the Lamar Hunt Trophy. In 1984, Hunt was also inducted into the Texas Sports Hall of Fame.

L.A. Chieffan 03-24-2009 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5607600)
Yes, we understand that your, among others, understanding of the history of the Kansas City Chiefs is lacking. Maybe we can convince you to educate yourself though. Try watching the Histoy of the Kansas City Chiefs. Which C-MAC has been so kind as to provide you the opportunity to watch at anytime you please.

The Dallas Texans aren't just the team the Kansas City Chiefs USED to be. They ARE the Kansas City Chiefs, they are Lamar Hunts heart and soul, they ARE the NFL. Anyone who doesn't recognize this, is an idiot. You should be honored to have the opportunity to see their likeness displayed proudly by the Chiefs, and yet...you are not.


Lamar Hunt loved sports, and most of all, in the late 1950's, he loved football. His dream was to bring professional football to his hometown of Dallas, TX. So, in 1959, on the strength of his great inherited oil wealth, Hunt applied for a National Football League expansion franchise. He was turned down. At this time, professional football was a distant second to Major League Baseball in the hearts of the American people. The thinking among NFL executives was that the league must be careful not to "oversaturate" the market by expanding too quickly.

So in 1960, Hunt decided to respond to the NFL's decision. Hunt took it upon himself, along with fellow Texan and oil man K.S. Bud Adams of Houston(who had also tried and failed to be granted an NFL franchise) to form the American Football League. Hunt and Adams rallied six other like-minded wealthy men to form this new league. The group of the eight founders of the AFL teams was referred to as the "Foolish Club." Hunt's goal was to bring professional football to Texas and to acquire an NFL team for the Hunt family. Hunt became owner of the Dallas Texans and hired future hall-of-famer Hank Stram as the team's first head coach.

In his first words to his team, head coach Hank Stram said to his players and personnel, "I don't know how long this league is going to last. I don't know what will happen, but when the end comes, I want to make sure, that we are going to wind up being, the winning est team, in the history of the American Football League".

Later in 1960, in response to this move by Hunt and the "Foolish Eight" the NFL, who just months before had turned down Lamar Hunt's request for an expansion team, created the Dallas Cowboys. A strategy designed specifically to drive the AFL out of Dallas.

The Dallas Texans won the AFL Championship in 1962 over the 2-time defending champion Houston Oilers in the longest professional game ever played as of that time and were one of the most successful AFL teams in the league's early days. But the Texans' success failed to draw fans in large numbers, as the Texans had to compete for fan loyalty with their cross-town NFL rivals, the Dallas Cowboys.

Though the Texans/Chiefs had always considered themselves to be vaunted rivals of the Dallas Cowboys. The two teams never faced off in competition while residing in the same city. I for one, consider this match-up to be quite fitting for the AFL's 50th anniversary, and one that I know Clark Hunt, wishes he father were still alive to see.

It is obvious to you, what the Chiefs do for you and Kansas City, but you should open your eyes to what Lamar Hunt and the Texans did for the Chiefs. Without the Texans, the Chiefs, and the NFL as we know it, would cease to be.

The effect the AFL has had on football have been long standing. The rosters of the AFL were always stocked with a certain number of players who would have excelled in any league -- and that number grew as the 1960s progressed. The best AFL coaches and owners, many of them new to the pro game, brought color, excitement and important new strategic and marketing ideas to pro football, which had often been dominated by play-calling which overrated the value of eliminating mistakes and underrated the element of surprise. While the NFL was always almost certainly the better league as a whole, the best teams of the AFL were increasingly the equals of any team in the NFL.

The AFL also substantially raised football players' salaries by frequently bidding against the NFL for the top college stars. It was the NFL's concern for containing salaries, more than anything else, that led a reluctant NFL to accept a merger between the two leagues in 1970. The older league could no longer claim to be far superior because by then the AFL champion New York Jets had defeated the vaunted Baltimore Colts of the NFL to win the Super Bowl. The Chiefs' triumph over the Vikings the following season further showcased the AFL's ability.

Today's "descendants" from the AFL, the Patriots, Bills, Jets, Titans, Broncos, Chiefs, Raiders, Chargers, Dolphins and Bengals would not have existed if it hadn’t been for Lamar Hunt. What’s more, the NFL’s Cowboys, created specifically to drive the AFL out of Dallas, would not have existed. Neither would the Vikings, an NFL franchise that was given to Max Winter to pull out of the original eight-team American Football League; nor would the Falcons, which the NFL gave to Rankin Smith to deter him from the AFL’s Miami franchise. Neither would the Saints, whose franchise was granted by the NFL after certain Louisiana congressmen pushed the AFL-NFL merger to completion. Or the Houston Texans, created to replace the Houston Oilers after they moved to Tennessee and became the Tennessee Titans. Thus, fifteen professional football teams would not have existed in fifteen cities today, if Lamar Hunt had not had the vision and the courage to “fight the establishment”.

In 1972, Lamar Hunt became the first American Football League personage inducted into the Pro Football Hall of Fame. A true testament to the lasting effect his life has left on the game of football. The trophy presented to each year's AFC Champions is named the Lamar Hunt Trophy. In 1984, Hunt was also inducted into the Texas Sports Hall of Fame.

**** that, deys got texas on the helmet man

Sweet Daddy Hate 03-24-2009 05:26 PM

Chiefs Cheerleaders upgraded to "Modern Chiefs Look":

http://blogs.sun.com/mountaingirl/re.../PeakCheer.jpg

aturnis 03-24-2009 05:30 PM

Also, if you are truly unhappy with the Chiefs decision to wear the Texans helmet, please don't refer to http://www.jotform.com/form/90822940333 for options. As far as I know, I don't believe the Chiefs ever wore but one of those symbols on their helmet. I could be wrong, and correct me if I am, but I don't think they wore any but the Arrowhead.

If you REALLY want to see a different CHIEFS throwback helmet, check out the 1:49 mark in History of the Kansas City Chiefs on C-MAC's page.

Though, I think doing so would be a huge disrespect to Lamar Hunt.

mikey23545 03-24-2009 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Darth CarlSatan (Post 5607627)
Chiefs Cheerleaders upgraded to "Modern Chiefs Look":

http://blogs.sun.com/mountaingirl/re.../PeakCheer.jpg

Damn, Claythan, if you can't handle your booze any better than this, you better give it up.

Wile_E_Coyote 03-24-2009 05:36 PM

Haley loves him some Bowe. But then again, he couldn't go with 88 or 27 & Cassel's is unknown

Hammock Parties 03-24-2009 05:38 PM

Jesus Christ, DCS and I are SEPARATE PEOPLE, reerun. Get it through your thick skull.

Mr. Krab 03-24-2009 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 5607634)
Also, if you are truly unhappy with the Chiefs decision to wear the Texans helmet, please don't refer to http://www.jotform.com/form/90822940333 for options. As far as I know, I don't believe the Chiefs ever wore but one of those symbols on their helmet. I could be wrong, and correct me if I am, but I don't think they wore any but the Arrowhead.

If you REALLY want to see a different CHIEFS throwback helmet, check out the 1:49 mark in History of the Kansas City Chiefs on C-MAC's page.

Though, I think doing so would be a huge disrespect to Lamar Hunt.

I understand where the Chiefs team evolved from and i understand the AFL and how it merged with the NFL. I also understand that the Hunts are basically Texans hanging out in KC making a living. I understand all of that and i imagine that is why Clark Hunt doesn't have a problem putting on his cowboy hat and boots and singing "They eyes of Texas are upon you" or some such goofy crap. Still doesn't mean i want the Kansas City Chiefs playing a game with a stupid picture of Texas on their helmet.

googlegoogle 03-24-2009 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5606854)
Have some respect for the origins of the ****in' franchise you nitwits.

Their origins is BANKRUPTCY.

Chiefs are not the same team.

Just stupid. Good one Clarke.

RippedmyFlesh 03-24-2009 05:58 PM

http://www.conigliofamily.com/images...ip1962w700.jpg
The Texans' Abner Haynes escapes Houston Oiler outside linebacker Bucky Wegener in the 1962 double-overtime American Football League Championship Game.

RippedmyFlesh 03-24-2009 05:59 PM

a better one
http://www.conigliofamily.com/images...dTopps1962.jpg

RippedmyFlesh 03-24-2009 06:01 PM

http://www.conigliofamily.com/images...206Terrell.jpg

DaFace 03-24-2009 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by googlegoogle (Post 5607660)
Their origins is BANKRUPTCY.

Chiefs are not the same team.

Just stupid. Good one Clarke.

http://msp153.photobucket.com/albums...95/lol_wut.jpg

mikey23545 03-24-2009 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5607646)
Jesus Christ, DCS and I are SEPARATE PEOPLE, reerun. Get it through your thick skull.

Sure you are.

mlyonsd 03-24-2009 06:09 PM

I can't believe anyone has a problem with this. WTF cares?

Hammock Parties 03-24-2009 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5607682)
Sure you are.

Ask a mod, reerun.

mikey23545 03-24-2009 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Claythan (Post 5607704)
Ask a mod, reerun.

Using proxies or whatever you're doing doesn't make you a separate person, psycho...

Skip Towne 03-24-2009 06:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey23545 (Post 5607682)
Sure you are.

Claythan is annoying but not nearly as annoying as DCS.

Papi 03-24-2009 07:06 PM

Everyone has valid points to me. But I still don't like to see my team representing another state. Where have the Chiefs spent the vast majority of their existence? The Chiefs are more the KANSAS CITY Chiefs than they could possibly be the Dallas Texans. This team is ours now, it does not owe any allegiance to Texas. It started there - so what? Our country was shaped from numerous immigrants from all over the world. We don't sing another nations national anthem, we sure as s**t don't wear someone else's military garb, our flag doesn't represent an outside nation. We are independent and have our own identity now. Sure it's great to remember and celebrate history, I just personally disagree with the manner it's being done here.


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