I'm surprised people don't think Cutler's worth that, frankly.

Yeah, and their defense is top notch.

Remember folks, this is a team that's just a few years removed from a Super Bowl. If they had a QB THEN, they'd have a recent Super Bowl trophy

He's from San Diego.

Don't worry all the QB's in the draft suck, Chiefsplanet told me so.

Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Remember, Taint just retired on them, so they'll have OL issues.

A drunk diabetic playing behind a suspect line.... the Bears fan in me is not happy.

Um some people here think Cassel is better that's really all you need to know about reasonable thought.

There are people on this board who wouldn't trade a first round pick for Peyton Manning. There are also people on this board who wouldn't give any Denver player any credit, no matter what they did (see Rain Man claiming that Warren Moon was a better QB than John Elway).

Ah.

I see, said the blind man.

Bears offense could actually be pretty decent now with Forte, Cutler. Could be real good if they find someone for him to throw to

They're going to have to move at least ahead of Seattle for Sanchez, IMO.

LMAO

Word I've heard is that Chicago is hot and heavy over Orlando Pace, and will move Williams to RT if they sign him.

You should probably stop looking at things in the glass of "OMG he played for Denver he sucks and I hate him"

Chicago is definitely worse weather than Denver.

It should be interesting. They've never really had a gunslinger like Cutler, as far as I can remember.

Talk radio is going to explode up here in Vikings land - the fans here wanted MN to go after him. Childress apparently had no interest, and now he went to a division rival. Should make for some entertaining listening...

Seattle is basically making no noise on their pick, although they are one of the few teams that didn't schedule a private workout with Sanchez.

The Orange Mane has died.

Try Quarterback at all. I think they might be the only franchise that can beat the Chiefs on shitty QB's.

Pretty decent?

They barely missed the playoffs with Kyle ****ing Orton taking snaps.

Orton threw for 3000 yards.

They could make NO changes and win the division.

Going to be strange to see an actual good QB in Chicago after all these years.

And now for more hilarity 810 is talking about how Chicago got ripped and Cutler sucks....and how great the Cassel deal looks now...

Man people are reeruned.

Chris Williams was the most highly regarded pass blocking LT in the entire draft last year. He didn't get to play last year b/c of neck surgery in the PS. He's so much more talented than Tait it's not funny. Kreutz is a perennial PB center, they just signed Kevin Shaffer to hold down the right side, Garza is a good guard, Matt Forte is already a great running back, Hester is your deep threat, and Greg Olsen is a very talented TE.

That team is a #1 WR away from being absolutely lethal.

lol Culter doesnt have to worry about playing in the heat.

This is so great! The mange must be melting down!

That Cedric Benson pick was "genious."

ESPN is saying it's this year's #1 plus next year's #1 and Orton for Cutler and a #3 this year.

Man the draft just got a whole lot more intriguing...esp. if Detroit takes Stafford.

This is where we stick to them and make them our bitch.

Gotta give it up to the donks, they may have messed up their QB situation but they still screwed the Bears in the trade.

To acquire Cutler, the Bears had to give up quarterback Kyle Orton and first-round picks in 2009 and 2010 according to espn

They damn well better sign somebody.

Personally, I think I'll start a pool for who gets the career-ending shot on Cutler next season. My money's on Jared Allen.

That's why you don't take RB's who saw alot of carries with high picks...

Childress should be fired for that alone if that's the case. Cutler, Peterson = scary, scary good

Yea young top notch QB's grow on trees.

This is all really quick and dirty, but if you assume that one-year-later = a one-round drop in value when it comes to draft choices, I figure the deal netted Denver a chart value of around 1300 for Cutler, plus Orton (who I'd say has very little value at all). That's equivalent to the #10 pick.

Even if you assume that the Bears' first's value next year is roughly equivalent to what it's worth this year, that still only puts the total value at the equivalent of our #3 pick. That's not at all too much for a franchise QB.

rly

Pioli needs to schedule to bring in Sanchez for a workout, stat!

Chiefs should take Sanchez or Stafford if available just to **** w/ the Broncos, and then trade one of their QBs for a first next year.

Not sure if he has much left in the tank but Holt is still out there.

I like how every analyst they've talked to on NFLN have said what a great deal this is for the Bears, how it's impossible to overpay for a franchise QB.

Then read the comments here about how the Donks got over on the Bears...

LMAO

It doesn't matter what they got until Josh proves he can be an HC. So far he's shipped off their pro Bowl QB for unproven players.

It's a great deal for the Bears...people who don't think it is either don't like Cutler because he was on the Broncos or they don't value the QB position at all.

Never said that, just said that Mark Sanchez does. And you've been saying all along that Stafford is going to suck.

We got ripped the **** off. Denver needed to get a top 10 pick, another 1st round pick, and a pro bowler to make this trade fair.:shake:

To complete the trade, the Broncos had to give back a third-round pick in 2009

Our fan base is loaded with ****tards who think QB isn't anymore valuable than the Jesus Curry.

I do agree with you here. Kyle Orton is a big step down from Jay Cutler, so I'm pretty excited that he's going to be in Denver... will it be Simms or Orton... my answer is Who Cares?? They're both worse than Cutler.

FWIW, the 12th and 18th pick is worth 2150.

They could move up to as high as #3.

EDIT: Duh. You mentioned that.

nice screenname

I thought they traded for Cutler?

Whaaa?? This is Jay Cutler not Tom Brady. If you think C-untler is worth all that then pass whatever your smokin.

They traded 2009 1st rounder 2010 1st rounder and Kyle Orton for Cutler... Bears got hozed.

I said that really?

That's news to me.

:LOL:

And they continue to show up...

Yeah... because Cassel who's worth half-a-second at 11-5 is going to be worth a first at 15-17.

NFLN blows Cutler constantly though. I say that he's more proven than any QB in the draft, and with the right coaching/defense (like the Bears' defense), he can be phenomenal. Still a great trade for the Bears.

This

Oh, was it that you would just give about 20 reasons why Stafford wasn't good and that Sanchez was much better?

It was 2 first rounders and Orton for Cutler and the Broncos 3rd rounder.

Denver got bent the **** over.

And that means I think Stafford sucks really?

I don't think the trade will work out for either team.

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:rolleyes:

Yea Matt Cassel is the man!

Quick, Einstein, tell me how many drunken diabetic crybabies are enshrined in Canton.

I hope I'm wrong, because the Bears are my NFC team so now I have to hope this piece of shit is successful instead of the next Herschel Walker or Ricky Williams. But I'm not feeling it. And frankly, neither is anybody else around me right now.

Pioli drafts Sanchez/Stafford and then makes McDaniels/Xanders do their best Mike Ditka impressions. He plunders the castle for draft picks galore and the Bernard Pollard chain reaction strikes again.

Hey, stranger shit has happened.

Well maybe I inferred that by continually knocking him around you didn't think he would be a good NFL QB.

Why do people think Cutler sucks? They missed the playoffs cause there defense sucked.

I disagree completely. No way is Cutler worth two 1st round picks.

Orton is good enough to hold the spot down for a few games until the drafted QB is ready as well.

Understatement of the century.

It's comparable to marrying Scarlett Johansson, divorcing her, and remarrying Rosie O'Donnell.

The bears gave up a lot but watching them over the years, I can understand doing what they have to in order to finally have a (somewhat) sure thing at QB.

Also, even though Denver got a lot for him, I can't help but be happy that an incredible talent like Cutler is out of the division. (Conference for that matter) That guy is just going to get better.

LMAO!

I mean Pioli really takes it to them. *Please insert pullout and facial joke here*

heheheheheheheROFL

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Now I'm hoping that Detroit takes Stafford and that we take Sanchez at #3.

Where the Bears draft they aren't even gonna get a shot at drafting a top QB, and top QB's aren't available in FA.

Good move by them, very small price to pay to get the best QB they've had in decades.

Now we'll get to see if Cutler is a winner or not, cause he's on a good team.

He is at least worth a 2nd round pick. I can't understand how that wasn't a good deal in your eyes (ignoring the fact that you have Sanchez's dick in your mouth).

And Cutler is going to throw to whom?

The Bears leading receiver was their n00b, RB, who was nails in fantasy, by the way. Thanks, Forte.

I think you got that wrong.

BY MIKE MULLIGAN
The Bears acquired quarterback Jay Cutler today for first-round draft picks in 2009 and 2010, a third-round pick this year and Kyle Orton, the Sun-Times has learned.

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/footb...040209.article

Other reports add that Denver also sent Chicago a 2009 fifth round pick.

They also won a game because the ref's ****ed up. They should not have been that close to making the playoffs.

Pretty much, the Bears get a young rising QB it's a great deal for them.

I don't have any faith that Denver will make those draft picks work out.