Your damn right he better be... You draft an ILB at #3, that ****er better change the whole ****ing NFL with his play....

I dont want to waste a pick on a middle of the draft position, when I could potentially draft a QB.

Allow me to interject the bottom line, please.


I call this one, "3rd Overall Yardstick":

http://i689.photobucket.com/albums/v...eYardstick.png

Quite so.

If Raji played UT in the 4-3 in college, would it be smart to draft him at 3 to play NT in 3-4? Wouldn't there be a curve? And with him being a pothead and dumber than a bag of hammers, is it safe to say he won't transition well? Or is it so easy a caveman can do it?

Any dumbass can play DT, it's not a thinking mans position.

Motivation and stamina is, I imagine.

We going to get 2nd rounder for TG from Atlanta. So I like Monroe to complement Albert and then we have 2 more picks in the bottom 2nd and top 3rd. Pretty nice!
This is shaping up to being our best draft in a long time.

Thank God we finally have a clean slate in the front office and coaching staff.
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:banghead:

Any chance we get a first rounder for LJ before the draft? That wouldn't be surprising move by pioli. 2 1st's, a 2nd, and top 3rd would be awesome!
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Picard, please...

Never mind; I found a two-fer:

http://www.aura-forums.com/natty/PicardRikerPalm.jpg

LMAO

ROFL

Can anybody say "Eugene Monroe"

not without throwing up in my mouth a little.

well thats who Maycock picked for us.

Any chance you ever look over at your little red rep boxes and wonder why?

And no. No fucking chance.

May"cock" has no ****ing clue who the Chefs will draft, therefore he is pulling everything out of his ass to try and maintain some sort of credibility... "Not saying he is very credible to begin with".

no, and please don't bring this up again.

no; evidently Pioli told Atlanta to pound sand.

If TG is off to Atlanta, then what about Crabtree in the first, RT and C with the 2nd and 3rd? Most of you have stated this is an offense deep draft. Build offensive line and such this year - D next year? Just a thought.

Sounds just fine to me.

All you need to do to be a good NT is to be big, strong, and not easy to move at all.

I'm not going to disagree with him that it would awesome though (although it's not going to happen).

I'd be all over that like a cheap suit.

The only thing I hate is that we had the WORST SACK #'s IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME. EVER. How do you not address defense? Are we the ****ing Lions? God I hope not.

Actually, I do not buy that at all. I believe this would put us from the 2 -14 team we are instantly back to the same team we were in year one with DV. An offensive juggarnaut with repairs needed on D that can be addressed next season. Back on track for contention in 2010.

So we should draft a poor value (Curry) or redundant (Monroe, Raji) player in the first and the best available defenders in the 2nd & 3rd just b/c our d sucked last year? Brilliant!

If the best available talent/need mix works out to be Crabtree, C, & RT, I'd be estatic.

OK, I couldn't find the stats for 2001, but :

Year Sacks
2002 34
2003 36
2004 41
2005 29

Those numbers are all a lot higher than the Chiefs whopping 10 last season. I don't see how we increase our stats to the same as DV's just by increasing our offensive power.

I love the Crabtree pick too, but I just think we need to address our defense somehow. Do you really think that Tank can pull off the NT position?

Jesus ****. Last year's team was aweful. **** you, Herm. Seriously.

I hope things will be better defensively.
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We can address our defense next year, when the defensive talent will be better.

And I sincerely think the staff is going to put Dorsey at NT.

Really? Gahhh. Wasn't he a penetrator in college?
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This guy is a freak. Would love to see him in Chiefs uniform next season.

That's not what Tank Tyler said:

http://www.arrowheadpride.com/2009/4...iefs-defensive

Also, Tank really fits into that size bracket needed for the NT position.

Here are all the NT's in the league, and their average/stdev of height and weight. Tank fits in both. BJ Raji is actually smaller in height (but not weight) for the NT position.

Actual NT players:

<table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 392pt;" width="522" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 87pt;" width="116"> <col style="width: 84pt;" width="112"> <col style="width: 104pt;" width="138"> <col style="width: 48pt;" width="64"> <col style="width: 69pt;" width="92"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl63" style="height: 15pt; width: 87pt;" width="116" height="20">Player</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 84pt;" width="112">Weight (pounds)</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 104pt;" width="138">Height (Feet, Inches)</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td class="xl63" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">Total (inches)</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Jay Alford</td> <td align="right">304</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Remi Ayodele</td> <td align="right">318</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">74</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Alan Branch</td> <td align="right">332</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">77</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Adam Carriker</td> <td align="right">308</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">78</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Kendrick Clancy</td> <td align="right">305</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">73</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Barry Cofield</td> <td align="right">306</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Lamar Divens</td> <td align="right">333</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Fred Evans</td> <td align="right">305</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Chris Hoke</td> <td align="right">305</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">74</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Maake Kemoeatu</td> <td align="right">345</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">5</td> <td align="right">77</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Scott Paxson</td> <td align="right">292</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Clifton Ryan</td> <td align="right">316</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">3</td> <td align="right">75</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Brian Schaefering</td> <td align="right">295</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Isaac Sopoaga</td> <td align="right">330</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">74</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Gabe Watson</td> <td align="right">332</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">74</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Vince Wilfork</td> <td align="right">325</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">74</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Willie Williams</td> <td align="right">305</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">4</td> <td align="right">76</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Average Weight</td> <td class="xl64" align="right">315.1</td> <td>Average Height</td> <td class="xl64" align="right">75.3</td> <td>
</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">STDEV</td> <td class="xl64" align="right">15.2</td> <td>STDEV</td> <td class="xl64" align="right">1.4</td> <td>
</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Prospective NT players:

<table style="border-collapse: collapse; width: 337pt;" width="448" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><col style="width: 68pt;" width="90"> <col style="width: 48pt;" width="64"> <col style="width: 104pt;" width="138"> <col style="width: 48pt;" width="64"> <col style="width: 69pt;" width="92"> <tbody><tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td class="xl65" style="height: 15pt; width: 68pt;" width="90" height="20">Player</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 48pt;" width="64">Weight (pounds)</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 104pt;" width="138">Height (Feet, Inches)</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 48pt;" width="64">
</td> <td class="xl65" style="width: 69pt;" width="92">Total (inches)</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Tank Tyler</td> <td align="right">306</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">2</td> <td align="right">74</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">B.J. Raji</td> <td align="right">323</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">73</td> </tr> <tr style="height: 15pt;" height="20"> <td style="height: 15pt;" height="20">Glenn Dorsey</td> <td align="right">297</td> <td align="right">6</td> <td align="right">1</td> <td align="right">73</td> </tr> </tbody></table>

Tank actually fits the mold the best out of the three. Glenn is too short and small. Raji is too short. Tank is within the weight and height.

Yes. There is absolutely no way we will play Dorsey at NT. It is very illogical.

From my perspective, we've invested way too much in the D-line over the last 3 years to neglect an O-line that'a sorely in need of a talent infusion in a deep draft.

And Tank can Bench 225 pounds 4 Billion times

If we're not taking a QB at 3 (and we probably aren't) this seems to be the most obvious choice. I tend to doubt they'd take Raji at 3, which is the only other guy that makes any sense for a pick that high.

Well, Haley said they had a spot for him. And he's supposedly up to 330 pounds.

And the rumor mill is hot with talk of him playing NT.

Too much smoke not to be a fire of some kind.

Yep.

We can get 2 or even 3 starting offensive linemen in this draft and that's without using the #3 on a tackle. This is an immensely deep draft on the offensive side of the ball.

Could you show me the rumors? I must have missed these. And I'm worried about him adding on 30 lbs in one offseason.... Unless it's all muscle...

This is going to be the most boring draft in the history of God. :shake:

He said he thought Dorsey would have 'an attacking role'

I THINK you are right. try him here for a year if he doesnt work try to trade him, someone will give up a good pick/player for his potential

no way Tank is 306. I'm not buying it. He's huge. Definitely more than 9 #s heavier than Dorsey.

Those are old weight #s. I didn't see that article before, funny the author thinks Johnston will be a 3-4 end.

Not surprised about the Tank/Dorsey implications though.

I agree here. No way I want to spend #3 and #5 in back to back years on DTs. Especially when Raji has the drug issue hanging over his head.

How can people say no to Curry #3, but be ok with Raji #3 with all the baggage he brings for that investment?

Try Dorsey/Tank for this year and focus on BAA, which Raji ain't anyway.

Yup.

What's the deal with the KC media? Can't anyone get a hold of the players to see how they look?