Plus they have lots of tradition.

Nebraska has a fast kicker.

Ever heard of Brian Moorman? Punter for Buffalo Bills.

He competed in the final heat in the NFL fastest man competition.

So then you're saying the Bills are going to win the Big 12 North!

KU
NU
MU
CU
KSU
ISU

Just stop it. ****.

Hold on..I'm gonna go find that pic of Daniels eating a booger.

No, you cut it out, too.

Total homer vote on my part, went KU. It was a toss up between them and KSU. I am not a real fan of KU or KSU they are the local schools and I root for them to do well. That and I hate Missouri and every team in the state :)

The day they handed out brains and balls.

No.

Can't I just post the 'One Shining Moment' vid FFS?

I mean, you take away cliche's and you're taking away the lifeblood of this board...

I think Mizzou's defense will be much improved...I worry about the defensive line just a bit. It will be interesting to see their offense go to work. The Tigers have a lot of young talented players to make things happen. I heard the death of Mizzou's program was going to come about when Brad Smith left so its pretty tough to label THIS team with all of its young talent as DOA.

Wes Kemp has been doing a lot of good things out there and our linebackers seem really strong.

Whoa! KSU has 5 votes. Mikey and William must have dupe accounts.

MU
NEB
KU
KSU
COL
ISU

The mighty Huskers of course..

Mizzou

Ku is gonna dominate the north.
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OK, so where do you get the idea that mizury is a football powerhouse. Honest to god question.

Its all those titles and top 5 finishes.
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I dont see anyone in the north beating us next year

Well, at least we have a top 5 finish.

They aren't. Just more so than KU, IMO.

Also just to get a jab in. KU is 4-2 against MU the last six meetings.
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And Missouri finished ahead of Kansas all 6 of those years.

:D

Why go back 6 years? Is 6 years more meaningful than 3 years? How about 20 years? Hell, I think the all-time series is just about even.

What he said.

Neither one has much history and the all time series is tied. KU has 2 Orange bowls to Mizzou's 0.

54-54-9

The Sucklones are gonna do it!

Of course. :D

This

So KU is the measuring stick? ROFL

Since when?

Both programs are improving, and as of recent, KU has bested MU in all things except the B12 North standings.

And as it has been pointed out, the all time record vs each other is a dead heat.

So once again, since when is MU a football powerhouse? Oh wait... since never.

Nebraska 5 National Championships

KU/MU a combined 0 National Championships

Nuff said

Billay, don't be a hero.

I love how you just cherry pick random points.

ku had not made bowl games in back-to-back seasons until......this past year. That is pure, unadulterated mediocrity, no matter how many Orange Bowls ku has played in.

But since you brought it up, Mizzou has played in 4 Orange Bowls - won 1, and played in 2 Sugar Bowls - won 1.

We've also played in 26 bowl games, which is more than twice as many as kansas has played in.

I haven't checked yet but I'm assuming Sam Hall voted for Missouri based on the program's history.

I find it funny when Missouri football fans try to make it out like they are so superior to KU, and they act smug as if they were a Ohio State or something. Look, there is really not much of a difference when it comes to KU football or MU football. Sure, one can see that over the years Missouri probably comes out a little bit ahead, and just a little. Bragging over that is pretty comical.

Who's acting like Ohio State? I haven't seen one Mizzou fan in this thread act like our program is ultra elite; all anyone is saying is that the program has more history than kansas, which it does.

Feel free to try to dispute it with facts, but also don't make up lies like skip did if you don't want to get called on it.

This!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
wow...with all the KU crap that gets posted here and the smugness that goes with that? Hi Pot, I'm Kettle.

Your post is stupid

Sorry but MU has a better football history than KU. One undeserved Orange Bowl you got because you didn't play well enough to go to the Big 12 Championship does not make KU's football program historically better than MU's.

You spelled it wrong.

It's the Iowa State University Cyclowns.

Or Sucklones if you prefer.

Oh God, you should see the Beakubation in non-conflicting threads where no fans of other schools show up.
They've got the "idiot Homer ego-pump" elevated to it's own ****ing science.

This is KU's year. NU will be in contention and I think it will come down to the KU/NU game in Lawrence.

Two Orange Bowls. Neither school is very historical as far as College Football is concerned.

KU, MU and NU in alphabetical order and my order of preference. In reality it could and should be those 3 but they may end up arranged any which way. KU will probably have its best shot next year with MU having a drop off from the last two years but Nebraska may well be on its way back up. They were very much improved last year and still get better rated recruits than Either KU or MU. While I'm a KU fan we have to face facts that neither KU or MU should really be mentioned in the same breath as Nebraska from a historical sense. We are the Johnny come latelys but I have to admit that a rivalry is a lot more fun when both teams are at least pretty good instead of awful.

What's this I see? A Big 12 north thread with this many responses, and I've missed it all?

Time to weigh in and fix that.

Quick breakdown: kansas, based on returning the best QB in the division and having its four best offensive skill players back, has to be the preseason pick. Nebraska, Missouri and Colorado all have the potential to challenge for the North title. kSU and ISU? Try to survive the season.

LOOOOOOOOOOONG breakdown start here:

I'll start with the preseason favorite, ku.

The jayhawks skill play is going to be very good. Well, as long as Dez Briscoe is welcomed back into the fold. He and Meier are probably the top 1-2 punch in the league. Sharp is serviceable, though he's better as a pass receiver than a pure rusher. Stuckey is also probably the best safety in the league.

But the hawks have some chinks in the armor, too. The pass rush has remained a problem the past few years, and though Jake Laptad was an improvement from John Larson, he was hardly a stud pass rusher at DE. The JUCO transfer is going to have to make an instant impact for ku to see a big improvement at DE. There are also big questions on the OL - where one starting tackle from 08 is now playing center, the best left tackle is a 265-pound converted TE/DT, and the best right tackle is recovering from a pretty severe head injury (and possibly will miss the season). Add in that the Hawks lost three interior starters, and Reesing might spend a lot of time running for his life this season (something he's quite good at doing). The linebacking corps will also be all new, and the secondary regressed greatly in 08 with a Talib-level talent at CB. The Hawks also look dangerously thin at RB if Jacques Crawford isn't back.

ku's O should hum right along, as long as the OL holds up somewhat. The D wasn't great in 08 and will need Stuckey to continue his excellent level of play, have a pass rusher and a corner (Justin Thornton?) become a true star, and get strong performances from the new starting LB corps.

Nebraska is next.

The Huskers are getting a lot of hype. Let's start with that. Ndamuhkong Suh had a great second half for the Huskers, and along with Zach Potter and Ty Steinkuhler formed an excellent defensive front four that covered for severe deficiencies at LB and in the secondary. Roy Helu and Quentin Castille formed a nice running combo, though Castille didn't do a ton outside of the bowl game. The offensive line returns three starters and 7/10 from the two-deep.

But what seems to glossed over is how much the Huskers lost. Both starting WRs. Starting QB. Two three-year starters on the OL. Two of the three stud DL. Their best cover corner. Pretty significant losses. Let's look again at what's back...

Helu has the potential to make the offense go, but the question I keep coming back to is how Nebraska's running game will do when it doesn't have an experienced passing QB to allow it to throw to set up the run? Nebraska changed its offense to a more open, throwing attack at midseason, and suddenly, the running game blossomed. Will new starter Zac Lee be able to mirror Ganz's production? The offensive line is going to have to take a big step otherwise, and with a big group of upper classmen who have lots of playing experience, projecting a sudden spike in their play doesn't make a lot of sense.

The other questions is at WR: Menelik Holt was semi-productive last year. No other receivers contributed, really. Lot of production and experience to make up for there.

And now for my Tigers.

The lost stars obviously are the first thing you look at. Daniel, Coffman, Maclin, Hood and Moore were about as good a top five list a team could throw out coming into 2008. Moore disappointed, as did Daniel, but that's still a ton of ability, experience and production lost.

Not all is lost, though. The Tigers return an outstanding running back in Derrick Washington (and a budding backup in Devion moore), three very good starters on the OL (two of whom are second-year starters who took a big step in spring practice), two senior WRs with tons of experience and ability (Jared Perry), the best linebacker in the Big 12 (Sean Weatherspoon) and their best corner (Carl Gettis, who sophomore slumped in 08).

Key factors for the Tigers:
The new starters on the OL have looked good (Austin Wuebbels looks like an upgrade at LG, Dan Hoch about the same at RT), but will that translate to the field.

How well will Gabbert play as a first-year starter? If his play is around the level of Chase Daniel in 2006, the Tigers should be right in the thick of things - and Washington and Moore should have plenty of room to run.

What about the D? It was horrendous in 2008 and might benefit just from having new blood. The top three DE all had huge springs and could be poised to be better than Missouri's best 2008 end (stryker Sulak). But what about the second and third DTs? Not a ton of experience there. LB should be a strength.

- SUb question: The secondary was horrific in 2008 and lost three starters. Will it be better or worse? There will be a lot more competition, which is a positive. And there are a lot of players who weren't available in 2008 (redshirts Rob Steeples and Kip Edwards both needed to add strength; Munir Prince was a transfer from Notre Dame; jarrell Harrison and Jasper Simmons are juco transfers; redshirt safety Zaviar Gooden needed time to grasp the system). So there is reason for optimisim - but that's hardly a guarantee.

As for Colorado... they're a dark horse team. Should have a pretty good OL. Have two RBs with big potential. Lots of young guys on D. But no QB as of yet, which is why they're the dark horse.

And another side note:

If ku doesn't win the north this year, when is it EVER going to win it?

Orange Bowl>>>No Orange Bowl

Four Orange Bowls >>> three Orange Bowls.

Two Sugar Bowls >>> 0 Sugar Bowls

Umm, DCS?

Um, up yours shithead. I've never implied that we were OSU, I've only implied that your school is not as great as you ego-inflated, beaker shitheads THINK it is.

And I stand by it 100%.

k

Wow, that was off the mark by miles.:thumb:

This reminds me of Kotter posting in an MU game thread because an MU fan said that he had the MU fight song as his ringtone. Kotter had to let everyone know how inferior the MU fight song was to KU's. Seriously.

That's great but we are talking about this year. Not over a decade ago.

If Sheldon Richardson makes it to campus, MU's defense is very much improved over last year. MU's offense should be fine as well, with a strong line and sound running game.

KU is the team to beat, but MU should be there in the end.

lol you think KU is equal to Nebraska in football? Like I said our kicker out ran your defense.

41-6
52-17

2001

Well congratulations. And what happened to your team when they had to come to Lawrence the year before? Oh, that's right. Nebraska had never given up 76 points in their proud history. Like I said, this is about how the teams stack up today, not decades past. And I say that KU stacks up very well with NU.

I don't cheer for KU football, UNLESS they are playing NU.

(Ugh, now I need a shower.)

Last year was more releveant and Nebraska kicked KU's ass. KU has all new Linebackers and Suh owned your o-line. KU doesn't really stack up with Nebraska all the Linebackers graduated, Suh owned KU's O-line, Helu ran for 152 yards, Where does KU stack up with Nebraska? Besides a better QB and a WR.

Does the Big XII Champ get the opportunity to lose the National Championship to Florida again or is it the PAC-10's turn?

If Sheldon Richardson gets qualified and on campus, he will challenge for PT SOMEWHERE on the defensive line as a freshman. Sure would like to add him to the rotation at DT and see what happens.

With his physical abilities, he COULD be as good as a true freshman as Tommie Harris. Not saying he will, but that is his ceiling.

Would be pretty nice to pair that with the upgrade at DE, which many are calling the strongest position on the team...

What are you, 12?

Suh owned a beat-up and depleted ku OL. And the two guys who helped him do it - Potter and Steinkuhler - are gone.

Barry Turner and Pierre Allen don't scare ANYONE.

ku is better at QB (by far), WR (by far) and DB.

Reesing > Chase "Choker" Daniels

ROFL

Yes, the 1-1 head-to-head matchup really makes it clear that Reesing is better than Daniel. :rolleyes:

Reesing's 2007 game and Daniel's 2008 are identical, for all intents and purposes.

Daniel's 2007 game, however, was FAR superior to Reesing's effort in 2008.

:eek: Holy cow! I never thought I would see the day a MU fan was sticking up for a KU fan. Thanks, dude. :thumb:

And yes, I do believe this guy must be about 12 years old. I can't wait until KU plays Nebraska this year. :evil:

If MU fans are honest with themselves, they would realize that the 1 game does not make a season just like you said. But that also applies to KU's lone loss in 2007. One bad game against MU did not mean that KU was not a really good team that year.

Orange Bowl>Cotton Bowl

KU with 54 votes > MU with 40 votes

Where don't we come out ahead?

:shrug:

And much like a poorly-trained bird, it just squawks the same tired shit over and over and over and over and over and....

says the king of useless graphics and lame jokes.

Wow! It speaks!

Yes, you MAY have another!

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