WTF is with the cost issue? Is it your money? Its not like we don't have the cap room and last I checked the money that makes up the cap comes from revenue sharing... For christ's sake... there is no reason to be cheap AT ALL.

I love how one year is a "track record".

Rick Mirer had a pretty good rookie season.
Derek Anderson had a good year in '07.

I guess they had "track records" too.

That decision in general is going to make or break us we'll either look brilliant or reeruned.

Only conclusion I can see is that we've traded #3.

This will get ignored, always does.

Or neither because it'll be a wash....

bullshit!

WTFFFF Hahahaha

I wouldn't say considerably, I believe there is only a 3 year difference, and Cassel already has a year of NFL starting experience...

It's a good point, to be sure. But 1 year > 0 years. Don't ignore that.

One year in the NFL > One year in college

Yes I think the Chiefs should base their draft on Broncos and Raiders messageboard contributors.
Brilliant

Deal with it. This isn't Carl Peterson. He doesn't care what fans think. He will do what is best for the team
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How can we have traded the pick when St. Louis hasn't made the pick yet? Whomever is getting the pick will want to know who is there.

Unless we have traded it for a player like bolding or peppers. :hmmm:

i'm starting to think that is possible, if we can't trade down...

I imagine it's possible that someone like Cinncinatti could have traded up to ensure they had a shot at one of the top two LTs.

There is more like a 5 year difference. The average NFL career is 4 years.

according to the National Football Post...the $36M is guaranteed.

You've also got people anointing Ryan and Flacco as great QB's after one year as well. Just the nature of the beast...

I'd agree to a point... but at the same time that's just an excuse, because Sanchez isn't going to get a chance to wait until he's 27 to produce. He's going to get more time, and he deserves to get more time... but in the end he's gonna have to start producing in a couple years or people will start labeling him a bust.

What the hell does Peterson have to do with what I said?

Well, if we move our LT to RT and draft a LT, we all of a sudden have the potential for a great ****ing line. I just salivate at thinking about having a offensive line like we had in the first part of this decade. An offensive line that allowed Trint Green to ****ing have great numbers.

I always remember everyone saying, it all starts in the trenches, Fix your lines then worry about the other parts later. Why does this not apply now? Why not make out offensive line now a top priority even if it means moving our LT to RT and Drafting a guy like Monroe? Why is that bad? I just fail to see it i guess.

I am not saying i would be mad if they did draft a guy like Crabtree. I am just thinking we are leaning towards Monroe and that i dont think its a bad move.

Please tell me that's a joke.

Sure, simply put I don't want to hear how Cassel needs time to develop like he's really gonna hit his stride at 31 or something.

but it's not just 1 year. Sure, Cassel has played just 1 year, but Pioli has worked with the man day in and day out for the last few years.

He knows his strengths, weaknesses, work ethic, and opportunities for improvement. You can't discount that.

Sign and trade for picks and draft Sanchez...just sayin... I could care less either way. In Pioli I trust!

I am thinking something got done. There is no way Poili lets this out right before the draft if he didnt mastermind something.

That would make sense. Something is sure the **** up....

Thus dies any pipedreams of dealing cassel.

Never mind, I was thinking Stafford vs Cassel. My bad...

milky dragon man

Stupid question, but is this an extension or a replacement contract? If it's a replacement, Cassel signed a 5-year, 21 million dollar contract? If so, that's complete chump change.

If the Chiefs have been leaking like a sieve the last week or so, I am going to go apeshit. The mole's head had better publicly roll.

No doubt, that's why I'm in the middle, with a slight lean towards bad move.

The Chiefs have signed Matt Cassel to a new six-year contract with $36 million guaranteed, according to the National Football Post.
We're waiting for more confirmation, but KC seemed unlikely all along to keep Cassel in 2009 at his $14.65 million salary. The guaranteed portion is more than Matt Ryan's deal from 2008, but less than Matthew Stafford's.

Hmmmm...I don't think we know the whole story.

True, but the value of the pick would go up if the Rams don't take a tackle and the team would get it's choice of whichever tackle it wanted or if Sanchez and any tackle was there etc.

I wonder if his contract all along was contingent on how much Stafford got.

how's the suckfari coming along?

This could be true. It would explain the timing.

it has nothing to do with us, everyone knew we wasnt gonna to take Sanchez, but alot people think Seattle is gonna take Sanchez and thats why we have been involved with alot trade talks

This is so stupid. Albert played well there last season. Why piss him off? If you draft a LT now, then you've wasted last years #1 that we traded for by selecting a RT. Dumb.

Why would Pioli base it on that? They aren't equal at all. Nor close.

Yeah it's all relative. In my book Cassel has about 2 years and Stafford and Sanchez have about three. I don't think Cassel can go out and bomb but it's obvious at this point he's going to be working without a net now that Gonzalez is gone. I'm not sure he's gonna go out and put up Pro Bowl numbers again until we have another year to rebuild the offense. I guess that depends on what kinda draft picks we make today.

Cassel is good right now. If he plays this year like he played by the end of last year the Chiefs will be fine
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I don't know why. But the timing is suspicious. Stafford agrees in principle and Cassel has a new contract within 12 hours?

you're a chick, right?

You can join in on my suckfari whenever you want...I don't bite.

Who gives a **** if he's upset about it. its a team game not a me game. Pioli and crew arent worried about ****ing feelings. Look at Tony G, they said well later bitch if you dont wanna be here. They are getting paid millions. 300 lb guy and you are worried about his feelings? ok.

Oh nozes were doomed if Cassel is a one year wonder.

I think we've gottin boldin or are gonna get crabgrab
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Please tell me that 36 isn't guaranteed...if it is we have the 2nd highest paid QB in the league.

Well, that at least makes some sense and is more probable than we traded #3 already.

But that has to be the dumbest negotiation ever if that's the true reason.

That would be ridiculously overpaying...

If it's guaranteed, I think I'm swinging more towards bad move than I currently am right now.

Oh, no ****ing way. That's absurd.

It still doesn't explain why the Arrowhead is leaking information when it's been under the cone of silence until now.

:cuss:

My faith in Pioli's decision making is quickly eroding.

I'm a dude, but I'm not black, so I doubt I'm invited.

I think that comment is a little premature. It depends on what they do the rest of the offseason. If they acquire a high calibre wide receiver to pair with Bowe, it's actually an upgrade from Gonzalez, and if they field a third receiver of any quality, it's the strongest receiving corps they've had here in years. People seem to be thinking for some reason it's just dump gonzalez and go on with what we have, and we don't know that's the case...

The bigger issue is what they do with the offensive line.

Pissing him off isn't the point, wasting the 1st rounder we traded for is.

What are Staffords or Sanchez's ****ing track records? They weren't even household names in college? It was only the January thru April hype that made them become these suddenly great qbs.
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I hope we got Boldin. I don't know who Crabgrab is.

I'm right there with ya.

Are you high?

My understanding of contracts and the salary cap is very weak.

Does the guaranteed money get paid over the entire course of the contract or can they pay it all in one year?

I'm wondering if a majority of the contract will be paid this year - when there is a large pool of available money.

With the 3rd pick the Kansas City Chiefs select Eugene Monroe OT University of Virginia.

* IF TRUE

They might be letting teams know that they can move up and get Sanchez before Seattle takes him at 4.

+1

I think anybody who believed they acquired Cassel just to flip him was spending a few weeks in fantasyland. Nobody should be surprised by this.

lots of chicken littles in here. Everyone wanted Carl gone (me included) and we get who was widely considered the best possible GM candidate and now everyone second guesses him like they know more than he does. I have faith in the new regime. If they think Cassel is the man, who am I to disagree. I'm fine with Jackson, Curry, Monroe, Crabtree or whoever they think is the best player for the team.

Now, if Pioli is here 20 years and never makes the Super Bowl I will question his decision making. But I'm going to defer to his decisions as I'm sure he knows more than I ever will about player evaluation.

Go Chiefs!

guaranteed money usually has a big hunk in the 1st year with the signing bonus and then has some kind of guaranteed bonus each year for awhile.

Jesus Christ dude.....WTF are you talking about? No, even if this is guaranteed, Cassel is not the 2nd highest paid QB in the league.

Please tell me how you figure a 6 year, $36 mill contract makes him the 2nd highest paid QB in the league.

That was pretty much reality, I don't think anyone in their right mind expected 36 mill in guarantees that's the absurd part.

You brought up what fans of other teams think as if anyone gives a shit. As if raider fans want us to pick so and so that must mean something. Peterson was obsessed with what fans thought. Its not relevant to who will or should be picked
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We signed him to what a 5 year deal? he has 4 more years to get over it. You cant go worrying about where the guy wants to play 4 years down the line. Thats playing scared, you cant do that.

If it's 36 mill in guaranteed money the only QB with more is Stafford...did that go over your head?

That's why I said it kinda depends on what we do today. And the rest of the offseason. But don't be silly, Gonzalez is a safety net that few others can match. He's not a big play WR but he's probably the best "safety net" in the league for QB's to dump off to besides Fitzgerald. He single handedly made Tyler Thigpen last year. Now if we go out and get Boldin I revise my statement, haha. But if we just go out and pick up some 4th round WR that's a little different.

dude I called it the day Pioli was hired...all of the drafturbators yearning for CP to be gone would HATE Pioli because New England does things THEIR ****ING WAY! The "reaches" Mecca hates will happen every year...because New England drafts by their ****ing board...not Mecca Kiper's.

Until you find out what the guarantees are, it's hard to make a judgement. That could include a 15 million roster bonus in 2013 for all we know.

It's the timing and rumor of 36 guaranteed that gets people.

I don't think many people thought we'd turn around to trade Cassel.

I am not arguing that either of those guys have a track record.

I am saying that you can't call one season a track record.

My post had nothing to do with Stafford or Sanchez.