WHAT THE ****?

LMAO

Did they trade their first or chicago's?

At this rate theirs might be top ten.

You guys got two of the draft's top five players. Now you have a 5'9 4.60 forty CB, and all you had to do was trade a 1st round draft pick. Nice!

Did Denver just trade their 1st round pick for the stronger draft next year for a 2nd round pick this year? :eek:

awesome trade for the seahawks. This year's second for the likely no 1 overall next year.

HAR HAR HARRRR

Pretty big WTF move from Denver. Any word on which one of their 1st next year?

seattle just raped Denver

that can easily be a top 15 pick in the 1st next year


holy shit

denver raped themselves getting that safety for a first round pick next year

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Broncos coach Josh McDaniels said earlier in the afternoon that he would trade up in the second round if a "valuable" player was available.

He wasn't kidding. McDaniels dealt the 2010 first-round pick obtained from Chicago in the Jay Cutler deal to nab Alphonso Smith, an all-American cornerback from Wake Forest, at No. 37.

The Broncos retained their original second-round pick, No. 48 overall.

Smith intercepted 21 passes during his four-year college career, including eight in 2007 and seven in 2008.
http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_12228231

LMAO

So for Jay Culter they got Ayers and a 5'9" cornerback?

gay trade. gay front office.

ROFL @ Denver. Did they really give up a potential top 10 pick for Alphonso Smith?

apparently that + Orton + a 3rd round pick.

I didn't like the trade from the get go, but now I am starting to hate it.

Orton better be the next Tom Brady.:mad:

Uh, I'd rather have the two guys you got.

Well, it was the Bears' pick next year, so it'll probably be a mid- to low-first.

We left just before the fun started apparently.

You are never going to be able to take all those players and draft picks and say it'll match what Cutler can bring to the table. At best you could equal the value.

:grovel: 1-15 :grovel:

Apparently

So Denver has now spent 3 1sts and a 2nd on a RB, DE, CB, and S. :hmmm:

I guess that might help them out, but I'm really surprised that they didn't focus more on a pass rusher.

Who? I don't think any of the pass rushers are at all impressive this year.

Or the Chiefs would have drafted one.

We have as many Linebackers as Runningbacks. The FO and coach feel like we have enough.

Quantity over quality I guess.

Wow.

Gotta wonder what the Broncos are thinking.

It could be worse though - the Raiders 2nd-round pick doesn't even have a profile on NFL.com. ROFL

Yeah. I have concludedfrom a defensive perspective they want more vets than rookies at this point. They have stated we'll be playing a 4-3 and a 3-4 this year,

well that's what Ayers is for...he will edge rush along with Dumerville on the other side...

between the two of them i like our pass rush...

what i don't get is our lack of d-line help (esp NT)...

we didn't get Raji and we didnt get Brace...not sure what thats all about...

Powell, Thomas, and Fields are going in and out of that spot I guess.

yea i guess...

as expected...it's full meltdown mode at the Mane...

Denver traded up again!

Broncos traded up to get Richard Quinn, a blocking tight end

Wow. After that appalling display of inept drafting, I'm pretty happy with our one unavoidable reach.

Denvers draft is balls.

I LOVE DENVER

what in the hell was Denver thinking today

Man, after watching Denver and Oakland draft I feel way better about the Chiefs divisional chances the next few years.

Ayers and Moreno are good picks. Quinn is a nice pick. Think Jason Dunn.

I think we traded our 1st next year to get the CB wanted and because we need to ditch that pick next year because of the cost.

(snort)

What position is Robert Ayers in a 3-4?

I'll concede the Moreno pick. I think he was the #1 RB in this draft and I think he'll excel in Denver. However, I'm not a fan of taking Ayers in the first round whatsoever. And I don't believe trading back into the 2nd round for a TE that was primarily a blocker in college is a sound strategy.

Great so they just traded up to draft a Danial Graham type when they are already paying Graham roughly 6M per year.

Ayers is a stud and projected in some Mocks to go much earlier than #18...

but i can't argue the rest of your points..

after the 1st round, Denver really put out some head scratchers to me...

I like Moreno but Ayers is out of position in the 3-4 and the rest of those picks are really questionable.

So... Denver turned Jay Cutler into Ayres, a 2nd round CB, and a blocking TE. What?

AND they gave away *their* 1st-round pick next year, not Chicago's.

I LOVE DENVER

They are people McDaniels and Xanders liked, and they made moves to get them.

They didn't consult the fans who've been reading mock drafts all year - so sorry. If they had, they might have gotten a great bargain like Rey Maualuga (#38) at #12.


LMAO

That Alphonso Smith trade is easily the worst move of the day. They gave up what is likely a top 10 pick for #37. ****ing awful.

Ayers is a Turk Mcbride Clone

Josh McDaniels is Eric Mangini junior.

I would never think Jason Dunn as a 2nd rounder....FWIW

Any conformation that it's their 1st? If so that's a pretty ****ing brutal price for that 2nd rounder this year.

Yeah. NFLN reported it was their natural 2010 first rounder.

I'll bet McDaniels thinks that's going to be a pick in the 25+ range.

The draft value chart says Denver lost 55 pts in the trade for Quinn.

And he would be out of his ****ing mind.

He actually was a 2nd rounder in Philly. But that was when he was more of a pass catcher. The blocking Dunn we know and love came later, after his knees were shot.

Because NFL teams routinely hire coaches who don't expect to improve their teams.

In Mecca world.

Thanks.

Any word on what they gave up to get the last trade? The TE I believe.

Their two third-rounders.

I'd think he's smoking crack if he thinks they'll improve to roughly a top 3 AFC Team.

Call it what you want but you should be realistic in making moves.

*snicker*

A blocking TE? Seriously?!?

We are going to a full on 3 wide receiver set. We'll use two blocking TE's probably more than anything.

Don't laugh too hard, Denver SWINDLED the 132nd pick. Genious move. They really made out like bandits there.

A blocking TE and the last pick in the fifth round for two third rounders.

LMAO

Not as a Joker. Which is where I think he'll end up.

We can't afford it. That's the only benefit from it.

Just think, they could have used one of those 3rd rounders on a flier for Nate Davis, you know, someday replace Kyle Orton. Oh well, they could use next years first on McCoy.

That dude was integral to the running game success with Holmes and LJ.

It's probably a top 10 pick. At least top 15. Our schedule is brutal.

Were you at Rain Man's party? If so, did he laugh at the Broncos fans? :D

We had a good time. Rain Man was a great host.

I haven't read this thread so sorry if it's a repost but I just saw McDaniels on television talking about their picks. This guy looks, sounds, and acts completely and utterly clueless. If the Broncos face ANY adversity this year he's going to lose this team, lose them quickly, and lose them completely.

And I'll love every second of it.

If I was a Bronco fan I'd be pissed -- especially punting next year's first because if they aren't able to get over the hump that is very likely to grow through the season they're going to see their top 5 pick being used by someone else.

From launching Cutler to using first round picks on second round corners, this guy is a REALLY EPIC FAIL.

Man, my wife was sitting there saying "who is that high school kid talking about the Broncos?" ROFL

I've been enjoying reading the Donx fans' justifications for their craptastic draft. One guy was arguing that it was ok to trade away what could be a top 5-10 pick next year because first round QBs (like Bradford) never work out. Of course, Denver just jettisoned a talented QB to create this little problem. Awesome.

FYI of the eight teams who earned draft selections 25 - 32 in 2008, five improved by three games or more - which is what the Broncos would need to do to crack that barrier:

Tennessee 10 - 6 -> 13 - 3
Carolina 7 - 9 -> 12 - 4
Atlanta 4 - 12 -> 11 - 5
Baltimore 5 - 11 -> 11 - 5
Miami 1 - 15 -> 11 - 5

Unrealistic? Actually, it's better than 50/50.



Improve your team and win games - screw the schedule. Those last four teams above looked like breaks on everyones' schedule at this time last year.

I think the whole schedule thing is BS anyway. Every year, team's that look like pushovers make the playoffs and teams that look like world-beaters go 3-13.