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Mecca 04-25-2009 10:23 PM

Whoa now I wouldn't have taken Levitre ahead of Robinson.

BigChiefFan 04-25-2009 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5710839)
Duke Robinson ****ing sucks.

There are five guys left that blow him away.

You're entitled your opinion. I happen to think Robinson is a bargain in the 3rd.

DaneMcCloud 04-25-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5710854)
You're entitled your opinion. I happen to think Robinson is a bargain in the 3rd.

I'd take Caldwell or Urbick long before Robinson

BigChiefFan 04-25-2009 10:28 PM

Duke Robinson's senior year stats...

6'5", 329 lbs.
5.32 40 Yard Dash, 4.90 20 Yard Shuttle, 8.09 3-Cone Drill
31.5 Inch Vertical Jump, 20 Bench Reps

SENIOR SEASON STATS:
117 Key Blocks, 14 TD Resulting Blocks, 5 Downfield Blocks, 0 QB Pressures Allowed, 0 Sacks Allowed


Sure thing, Dane.

Mecca 04-25-2009 10:28 PM

I questioned Robinson when people had him going at the end of the 1st round but in the 3rd he's a top of the line value.

DaneMcCloud 04-25-2009 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefFan (Post 5710868)
Duke Robinson's senior year stats...

6'5", 329 lbs.
5.32 40 Yard Dash, 4.90 20 Yard Shuttle, 8.09 3-Cone Drill
31.5 Inch Vertical Jump, 20 Bench Reps

SENIOR SEASON STATS:
117 Key Blocks, 14 TD Resulting Blocks, 5 Downfield Blocks, 0 QB Pressures Allowed, 0 Sacks Allowed


Sure thing, Dane.

I don't care.

I think he's going to suck in the NFL.

I'm sorry my words penetrated your anus.

SBK 04-25-2009 10:31 PM

I'd imagine our pick will be on one of the lines, or possibly a pass rushing OLB. I tend to think O-line though, we need to upgrade it and there's some pretty good guys still out there.

DaneMcCloud 04-25-2009 10:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SBK (Post 5710886)
I'd imagine our pick will be on one of the lines, or possibly a pass rushing OLB. I tend to think O-line though, we need to upgrade it and there's some pretty good guys still out there.

After today, the Chiefs only need to upgrade 15 starting positions.

It was an AMAZING day for the Chiefs.

Mecca 04-25-2009 10:37 PM

I'd like to hear what is wrong with Duke Robinson, I've talked about him before and he has some flaws but he's way more talented than Kraig Urbik is.

BigChiefFan 04-25-2009 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5710880)
I don't care.

I think he's going to suck in the NFL.

I'm sorry my words penetrated your anus.

Oh a little shit fit, how ****ing quaint. How dare someone think a player has value before your pick.ROFL Throwing stats out now equates to you tonguing my ass, huh? Pucker up.

KcFanInGA 04-25-2009 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis (Post 5710816)
Harvey Williams has no neck compared to this guy.

Damn. Harvey Williams. I kind of forgot about him. Hopefully they are both the kind of guys that stick their neck out for the team

Mecca 04-25-2009 10:43 PM

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...e-Robinson.php

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...raig-Urbik.php

http://www.draftcountdown.com/scouti...e-Caldwell.php

Compare those 3 scouting reports.

SBK 04-25-2009 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5710892)
After today, the Chiefs only need to upgrade 15 starting positions.

It was an AMAZING day for the Chiefs.

It was pretty boring, especially when compared to last year. Trading for Cassel added to the boredom, would have been a lot of fun to be taking Sanchez instead.

For me though, I don't mind our pick at all. I don't know much about him, but if you can't trade down you should take the guy that fits in your system, that fits who you want, even if it might be a few picks early. From what I've read though, it sounds like he would have been gone at 5 so maybe he's not so much of a reach.

And we should start scouting LSU for next year, we seem to like them for our #1's. :D

tonyetony 04-25-2009 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 5710892)
After today, the Chiefs only need to upgrade 15 starting positions.

It was an AMAZING day for the Chiefs.

We did get three new day 1 starters in two rounds. Tommorrow if we can get one more day 1 starter plus a few back ups pushing for starting positions by mid season then I think we'll be better than the raiders and denver this year. That's a start.

Mecca 04-25-2009 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 5710952)
We did get three new day 1 starters in two rounds. Tommorrow if we can get one more day 1 starter plus a few back ups pushing for starting positions by mid season then I think we'll be better than the raiders and denver this year. That's a start.

Those 2 teams had abortions of drafts.

tonyetony 04-25-2009 11:00 PM


I like the fact that Caldwell has some versatility but it sounds like he'll be interior and need protected by a good player on the outside. I've seen Robinson play and he can finish not to mention he is huge. If his ass gets motivated he is a day one starter for us.

Mecca 04-25-2009 11:03 PM

Robinson is the guy who doesn't have physical weaknesses which is a plus as an interior lineman.

BigChiefFan 04-25-2009 11:04 PM

The more I think about Gilbert, the more Gilbert worries me some, I think I'd prefer Michael Johnson or Duke Robinson with our 1st pick tomorrow.

KCChiefsMan 04-25-2009 11:20 PM

ya I want Brandon Tate tomorrow with our 1st pick, that would be a damn good 3rd rounder

Priest31kc 04-25-2009 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 5711053)
ya I want Brandon Tate tomorrow with our 1st pick, that would be a damn good 3rd rounder

Tate or Iglesias? I think i'd go with Tate.

Archie Bunker 04-25-2009 11:31 PM

http://www.draftcountdown.com/results/Best-Day-Two.php

Best Available - Day Two

1. Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
2. Shawn Nelson, TE, Southern Miss
3. Rashad Johnson, S, Alabama
4. Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina
5. Jamon Meredith, OT, South Carolina
6. Cornelius Ingram, TE, Florida
7. Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
8. Jarron Gilbert, DT, San Jose St.
9. D.J. Moore, CB, Vanderbilt
10. Lawrence Sidbury, DE, Richmond
11. Derrick Williams, WR, Penn St.
12. Troy Kropog, OT, Tulane
13. Alex Magee, DT, Purdue
14. Travis Beckum, TE, Wisconsin
15. Chase Coffman, TE, Missouri
16. Juaquin Iglesias, WR, Oklahoma
17. Andre Brown, RB, North Carolina St.
18. Chip Vaughn, S, Wake Forest
19. Marcus Freeman, OLB, Ohio St.
20. T.J. Lang, OT, Eastern Michigan
21. Donald Washington, CB, Ohio St.
22. Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa
23. Kaluka Maiava, OLB, USC
24. Mike Thomas, WR, Arizona
25. Kraig Urbik, OG, Wisconsin
26. James Casey, TE, Rice
27. Louis Murphy, WR, Florida
28. Coye Francies, CB, San Jose St.
29. Ramses Barden, WR, Cal Poly
30. Rhett Bomar, QB, Sam Houston St.
31. Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty
32. Victor Harris, CB, Virginia Tech
33. Jasper Brinkley, ILB, South Carolina
34. Antoine Caldwell, C, Alabama
35. Bradley Fletcher, CB, Iowa
36. Mike Wallace, WR, Ole Miss

CrazyPhuD 04-25-2009 11:53 PM

I think the chiefs need a big athletic johnson to compete in this league. Make it happen, although I won't get to see the outcome until tommorrow evening.

KevB 04-26-2009 12:02 AM

http://www.gbnreport.com/updatedtop100.html

# Cornelius Ingram TE 6-4, 246 Florida (X)
# Michael Johnson DE 6-7, 266 Georgia Tech
# *Jared Cook TE 6-5, 246 South Carolina
# Duke Robinson OG 6-5, 330 Oklahoma
# Jamon Meredith OT 6-5, 305 South Carolina
# Derrick Williams WR 6-0, 195 Penn State
# Marcus Freeman LB 6-1, 240 Ohio State
# Shawn Nelson TE 6-5, 240 Southern Mississippi
# *D.J. Moore CB 5-9, 192 Vanderbilt
# Jarron Gilbert DE 6-6, 290 San Jose State
# Rashad Johnson FS 5-11, 203 Alabama
# Alex Magee DT 6-3, 298 Purdue
# Andre Brown RB 6-0, 225 North Carolina State
# Michael Hamlin DB 6-2, 215 Clemson
# Shonn Greene RB 5-11, 227 Iowa
# Antoine Caldwell OC 6-3, 310 Alabama
# Coye Francies CB 6-0, 185 San Jose State
# Chip Vaughn SS 6-1, 220 Wake Forest
# Rashad Jennings RB 6-1 231 Liberty
# Darry Beckwith LB 6-0, 242 LSU (X)
# *James Casey TE 6-4, 245 Rice
# Lawrence Sidbury DE 6-2, 266 Richmond
# Kevin Barnes CB 6-0, 187 Maryland
# *Ricky Jean-Francois DT 6-3, 295 LSU
# Louis Murphy WR 6-2, 205 Florida
# Jonathan Luigs OC 6-4, 301 Arkansas
# Javon Ringer RB 5-9, 205 Michigan State (X)
# Chase Coffman TE 6-6, 245 Missouri
# Mike Mickens CB 6-0, 185 Cincinnati (X)
# Dannell Ellerbe LB 6-1, 236 Georgia
# Dorell Scott DT 6-3, 310 Clemson
# Juaquin Iglesias WR 6-1, 210 Oklahoma
# Keenan Lewis CB 6-1, 210 Oregon State
# Kraig Urbik OG 6-5, 335 Wisconsin (OT)
# Jason Phillips LB 6-1, 240 Texas Christian (X)
# Victor Harris CB 5-11, 192 Virginia Tech
# T.J. Lang OT 6-4, 312 Eastern Michigan
# Jonathan Casillas LB 6-1, 228 Wisconsin
# Gerald Cadogan OT 6-5, 310 Penn State
# Scott McKillop LB 6-1, 245 Pittsburgh
# *Asher Allen CB 5-10, 195 Georgia
# Kaluka Maiava LB 5-11, 230 Southern California
# Corey Irvin DT 6-3, 300 Georgia
# *Glenn Coffee RB 6-0, 210 Alabama
# Brandon Tate WR 6-0, 185 North Carolina (X)
# Jasper Brinkley LB 6-2, 252 South Carolina
# David Bruton DB 6-2, 220 Notre Dame
# Kory Sheets RB 5-11, 210 Purdue
# Stephen McGee QB 6-3, 225 Texas A&M
# Matt Shaughnessy DE 6-5, 266 Wisconsin
# Troy Kropog OT 6-5, 310 Tulane
# Mitch King DT 6-2, 280 Iowa (DE)
# Tyrone McKenzie LB 6-2, 243 South Florida
# Ramses Barden WR 6-6, 230 Cal Poly
# Curtis Taylor FS 6-2, 210 LSU
# Cary Harris CB 5-11, 185 Southern California
# Xavier Fulton OT 6-4, 305 Illinois (X)
# Mike Thomas WR 5-8, 195 Arizona
# Rhett Bomar QB 6-2,225 Sam Houston State
# Chris Clemons DB 6-0, 210 Clemson
# *Kevin Ogletree WR 6-1, 196 Virginia
# *Gerald McRath LB 6-2, 231 Southern Mississipp

salame 04-26-2009 12:05 AM

Duke Robinson or Derrick Williams would be cool

Sure-Oz 04-26-2009 12:08 AM

Ramses Barden late?

Sure-Oz 04-26-2009 12:08 AM

BtW-what picks do we have tomorrow

Mr. Kotter 04-26-2009 12:09 AM

Jamon Meredith, RT

salame 04-26-2009 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5711200)
Ramses Barden late?

He might be there in the 7th

Mr. Kotter 04-26-2009 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5711201)
BtW-what picks do we have tomorrow


3 (67)
4 (102)
5 (139)
6 (175)
7 (212)
7 (256)

tboss27 04-26-2009 12:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5710709)
I'm surprised no one is talking about Michael Johnson...

I think it would be a good move. Goodness knows we need some speed off the end, he definitely fits the profile. He may only be a 3rd down OLB in the 3-4 or end in the 4-3, but if he is capable of being as good a pass rusher as he was at GT he would be well worth the pick.

Mecca 04-26-2009 12:20 AM

I'm not a fan of Derrick Williams I just don't think he fits.

Frankie 04-26-2009 12:38 AM

I'm hoping we pick up Lucas Taylor around 6 or 7. Any WR whose name sounds that similar to Otis Taylor can't be all bad.
;)

salame 04-26-2009 12:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711230)
I'm not a fan of Derrick Williams I just don't think he fits.

I hope the Bears draft him actually.

Mecca 04-26-2009 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by salame (Post 5711283)
I hope the Bears draft him actually.

The Bears need another return man it will give them 42.

googlegoogle 04-26-2009 12:49 AM

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googlegoogle 04-26-2009 12:49 AM

Michael Johnson is falling because he's soft.

Coogs 04-26-2009 07:30 AM

I'm not sure if an ILB is high on our priority list or not, but here is the skinny on Brinkley. I remember him from a couple of years ago being a real ass kicker...



Height: 6-15/8 | Weight: 252 | 40-Time: 4.72

Official Bio

Strengths:
Terrific size and bulk with long arms...Athletic with good timed speed and a burst...Excellent strength...A reliable tackler...Powerful and can deliver a big hit...Able to take on and shed blockers...Does a nice job of filling in the box...Good pass rusher / blitzer...Outstanding work ethic.

Weaknesses:
Stiff and doesn't play to his workout numbers...Struggles in coverage and lacks fluid hips...Range is limited...Has trouble in space...Could be more physical...Marginal instincts and awareness...Intelligence has been questioned...Conditioning may be an issue...Durability concerns.

Notes:
Twin brother, Casper, also played for the Gamecocks and is currently with the Carolina Panthers...JUCO transfer from Georgia Military College...Immediately stepped in and assumed a starting job in 2006, earning 1st Team All-SEC honors and leading the team in tackles by a wide margin...Played in four games in 2007 but suffered a knee injury, which required surgery, and wound up redshirting...Returned in 2008 and was solid but carried too much weight and did not appear to be 100% healthy...Should be even better in 2009 now that he's a couple of years removed from that knee injury...A bit one-dimensional but certainly possesses intriguing triangle numbers and worked out much better than anyone expected at the Scouting Combine...Prototypical two-down thumper whose best fit might come inside in a 3-4 scheme.

The Bad Guy 04-26-2009 07:46 AM

In order of preference for the 3rd:

Duke Robinson
Michael Johnson
Laurence Sidbury
Jarren Gilbert
Jarron Meredith

dirk digler 04-26-2009 07:48 AM

I like Duke Robinson with our upcoming pick

penchief 04-26-2009 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5711230)
I'm not a fan of Derrick Williams I just don't think he fits.

I'm not sure if he fits or not but Williams is a good football player. He's a character guy who is very unselfish. He plays a lot faster than his timed speed when he has the ball in his hands and has very good vision. And he is a hard worker who leads by example. He's the kind of player who could end up being a better pro than he was a college player.

Iowanian 04-26-2009 07:56 AM

With the value of talent in the 3rd, I'd love to see the Chiefs go to work and move a couple of disgruntled vets for picks in the 3rd.

Duke Robinson would be a nice replacement for Waters.....Coffman is a nice option at TE....Shonn Green can run the rock if they want to ship LJ into someone elses problemville.

the Talking Can 04-26-2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 5711850)
With the value of talent in the 3rd, I'd love to see the Chiefs go to work and move a couple of disgruntled vets for picks in the 3rd.

Duke Robinson would be a nice replacement for Waters.....Coffman is a nice option at TE....Shonn Green can run the rock if they want to ship LJ into someone elses problemville.

amen

wish we had 2 thirds....but we have 2 seconds next year, that will be huge

milkman 04-26-2009 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 5710754)
I've seen Meredith projected as a OT and a guard, I wonder which he is.

I'd play him RT.

He's not the mauler that you'd like right now, but he has the frame to add some weight and get stronger, but he has good feet and size, and would be able to handle the DE on that side in pass protect.

If he's still there at 67, I think I'd have to jump at the chance to draft him.

milkman 04-26-2009 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyetony (Post 5710777)
I saw one report on him that said to think of him as a Jordon Black clone. I shuddered and mumbled at the thought. Although at RT I think Merideth has more upside than Sackintosh.

Meredith has better athletic ability, and better feet than Jordan Black.

philfree 04-26-2009 08:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 5711831)
In order of preference for the 3rd:

Duke Robinson
Michael Johnson
Laurence Sidbury
Jarren Gilbert
Jarron Meredith


We need a pass rusher badly but our d line would be pretty tough with Jackson playing one and DE and Gilbert playing the other. So right here right now our biggest needs are O line, OLB for the 3-4, a NT and a WR/TE.


PhilFree:arrow:

milkman 04-26-2009 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5711200)
Ramses Barden late?

Ramses Barden has some talent, but he's a project.

I wouldn't take him before the 6th round.

Chiefs=Champions 04-26-2009 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5711874)
Meredith has better athletic ability, and better feet than Jordan Black.

What do you think of Duke?

Ultra Peanut 04-26-2009 08:14 AM

We've got Robinson or Meredith if we want one of them.

milkman 04-26-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 5711912)
What do you think of Duke?

Big guy with some athleticism.

I think he has a chane to be a hell of a guard in the NFL.

Ultra Peanut 04-26-2009 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5711903)
Ramses Barden has some talent, but he's a project.

I wouldn't take him before the 6th round.

Exactly. I would love him in the 6th or something, but not in the third.

htismaqe 04-26-2009 08:16 AM

Looks like we need to take somebody from Iowa. ROFL

Chiefs=Champions 04-26-2009 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5711926)
Big guy with some athleticism.

I think he has a chane to be a hell of a guard in the NFL.

Thats wat i hear lol... Who would u take if u had the choice of Duke or Meredith?

Mizzou_8541 04-26-2009 08:25 AM

How many picks do we have today?

milkman 04-26-2009 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good (Post 5711949)
Thats wat i hear lol... Who would u take if u had the choice of Duke or Meredith?

Not that it matters at this point, but I would have gone with Meredith.

Delano 04-26-2009 08:29 AM

I don't see MaGee on any of these lists.. WTF

Chiefs=Champions 04-26-2009 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 5712027)
Not that it matters at this point, but I would have gone with Meredith.

Indeed.. Fair enough cheers for that.

Dottefan 04-26-2009 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 5710444)
Chase Coffman

I dont think the Chiefs need a towel boy..lol

Coogs 04-26-2009 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5712051)
I don't see MaGee on any of these lists.. WTF

Look at posts 101 and 103 which are NflDraftCountdown and GBN big boards for today. He is pretty high on both.

Skyy God 04-26-2009 08:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delano (Post 5712051)
I don't see MaGee on any of these lists.. WTF

He's #54 on Gosslin's.


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