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Sweet Daddy Hate 05-18-2009 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 5776046)
From someone who thinks that Carl Peterson was a good executive because he helped win a title in the USFL, I will take that as the highest compliment.


Ouchers. :doh!:

wazu 05-18-2009 11:52 PM

George Brett is completely in the wrong in all of this, but I still love him. The media guys who he called out should just shut their big yappers. It doesn't matter how right you are. Don't **** with the King of Kansas City.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-18-2009 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5776102)
George Brett is completely in the wrong in all of this, but I still love him. The media guys who he called out should just shut their big yappers. It doesn't matter how right you are. Don't **** with the King of Kansas City.

Well somebody get the "King" some fruit and fiber for God's sake.

DeezNutz 05-18-2009 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 5776102)
George Brett is completely in the wrong in all of this, but I still love him. The media guys who he called out should just shut their big yappers. It doesn't matter how right you are. Don't **** with the King of Kansas City.

I agree.

Hillman is a ****ing clown, and of this there's no question. But for Brett, I'm sure it has pained him to see his once proud franchise become a ****ing joke. If he's a bit too sensitive to criticism of the organization, however accurate, he's earned that right.

FAX 05-19-2009 12:34 AM

Personally, I don't care how many beers you've had. Anybody who lays down the hammer on that KK person, is okay by me. Of all the sports talk guys I've listened to - anywhere in the country - he is, by far, the worst.

FAX

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-19-2009 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5776143)
Personally, I don't care how many beers you've had. Anybody who lays down the hammer on that KK person, is okay by me. Of all the sports talk guys I've listened to - anywhere in the country - he is, by far, the worst.

FAX

There are worse.

FAX 05-19-2009 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5776144)
There are worse.

I'm sure there are, but for some reason or another, that KK person grates on my nerves horribly. Honestly, I cannot bear to listen to him ... it's torture, really.

He must remind me of some assclown I encountered in a former life, or something. Not only that, but his opinions often seem to be based on nothing more than a transparent and sometimes almost desperate effort to generate ratings - at least, that's how I sense it. When he and that Jack Harry guy are on the air together, I can literally feel the IQ points evacuating my brain and I have very few to begin with so avoiding that guy is self-preservation. Problem is, the other station in KC isn't anything to write home about. It's a shame, really, because I can have a difficult time getting Chiefs news and information here.

FAX

acesn8s 05-19-2009 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5776161)
I'm sure there are, but for some reason or another, that KK person grates on my nerves horribly. Honestly, I cannot bear to listen to him ... it's torture, really.

He must remind me of some assclown I encountered in a former life, or something. Not only that, but his opinions often seem to be based on nothing more than a transparent and sometimes almost desperate effort to generate ratings - at least, that's how I sense it. When he and that Jack Harry guy are on the air together, I can literally feel the IQ points evacuating my brain and I have very few to begin with so avoiding that guy is self-preservation. Problem is, the other station in KC isn't anything to write home about. It's a shame, really, because I can have a difficult time getting Chiefs news and information here.

FAX

But, Mr FAX, you have the Planet.

HemiEd 05-19-2009 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 5775476)
Don't know if this all of it but found it on youtube

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Thanks for posting this Joe! :clap:

Coach 05-19-2009 04:38 AM

Hahahaha.

Awesome.

FAX 05-19-2009 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by acesn8s (Post 5776164)
But, Mr FAX, you have the Planet.

Exactly so, Mr. acesn8s. This is my single, best source for news and information on the Chiefs, rogue bears, and the latest exploits of Salma Hayek's breasts. An invaluable resource in an age of confusion.

FAX

CoMoChief 05-19-2009 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 5775375)
I doubt that. It was this morning at a golf tournament.

Like he said, he probably had a few.

I've seen Brett at a couple golf tourneys he primely does 3 things, drinks, cusses like a sailor, and drives the ball about 350 yds.

Mojo Jojo 05-19-2009 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5776229)
Like he said, he probably had a few.

I've seen Brett at a couple golf tourneys he primely does 3 things, drinks, cusses like a sailor, and drives the ball about 350 yds.

Be careful...some members will jump your ass if you claim to know George, or have seen him at a golf tourney. And to suggest that he may have a few drinks at the tourney then you may be Satan.

FAX 05-19-2009 07:04 AM

"I am George's liver."

FAX

morphius 05-19-2009 07:16 AM

To me it came off as KK and Harry were just excited that George Brett mention their names. KK was so excited I thought he was going to pee himself.

FAX 05-19-2009 07:17 AM

LOROROLO

That sounds like that KK person.

FAX

ChiTown 05-19-2009 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5776249)
"I am George's liver."

FAX

"BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRP!"

TIED5573 05-19-2009 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Mojo Jojo (Post 5776244)
Be careful...some members will jump your ass if you claim to know George, or have seen him at a golf tourney. And to suggest that he may have a few drinks at the tourney then you may be Satan.

Thank ESPN for any dick with a mouth to be able to opine on any sports topic, once they took guys from nowhere and made 'stars' of them, it was fair game for people to open mouth-insert foot, and call it journalism. Couple that with the fact that NOBODY listens to AM radio, and you have a sure fire way ensure the downward spiral.
But it beats working for a living!

blaise 05-19-2009 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 5776262)
Thank ESPN for any dick with a mouth to be able to opine on any sports topic, once they took guys from nowhere and made 'stars' of them, it was fair game for people to open mouth-insert foot, and call it journalism. Couple that with the fact that NOBODY listens to AM radio, and you have a sure fire way ensure the downward spiral.
But it beats working for a living!

I think 980 AM radio is the highest rated station in KC

blaise 05-19-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5776259)
LOROROLO

That sounds like that KK person.

FAX

KK is a turd.

TIED5573 05-19-2009 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5776266)
I think 980 AM radio is the highest rated station in KC

Rating don't matter, except to the people who sell ads. Point being that unless your iPod is broke, or your iPhone is out of range, or you can't get to a Wi-fi hot spot, most people aren't listening to AM radio. (unless you are driving an un-pimped out 70's vehicle with a coat hanger for an antenna). Ooop's, probably stepped on some toes.

blaise 05-19-2009 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 5776275)
Rating don't matter, except to the people who sell ads. Point being that unless your iPod is broke, or your iPhone is out of range, or you can't get to a Wi-fi hot spot, most people aren't listening to AM radio. (unless you are driving an un-pimped out 70's vehicle with a coat hanger for an antenna). Ooop's, probably stepped on some toes.

I don't know, I listen to AM radio all the time, and so do a lot of people. I don't know how you figure ratings don't matter. I don't want to sit and listen to music at work and hear the same songs all day. I almost never tune to FM radio in my car either.
So you're saying no one listens to radio at all basically. It's weird there's so many stations then.

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 5775375)
I doubt that. It was this morning at a golf tournament.

seriously, this is george brett we are talking about. The same guy that chased my brother out of Dos Hombres in Brookside 25 years ago, just cause my bro had the nerve to say nice game, after he went 0-4, and in order to get away from pissed off totally drunk george, my brother had to hide in a trash dumpster.

ChiTown 05-19-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 5776297)
seriously, this is george brett we are talking about. The same guy that chased my brother out of Dos Hombres in Brookside 25 years ago, just cause my bro had the nerve to say nice game, after he went 0-4, and in order to get away from pissed off totally drunk george, my brother had to hide in a trash dumpster.

Question?

If your bro was man enough to make the comment, why was he not man enough to back it up? Drunk George or not.

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stewie (Post 5775385)
I watched the ****ing interview. He wasn't drunk. I'm sure you're a genius about all things Royals, so I bow to you... dickthrob.

I watched too, and I thought he was. He wasn't slurring, but his voice was different than it normally is.

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 5776300)
Question?

If your bro was man enough to make the comment, why was he not man enough to back it up? Drunk George or not.

My bro was 15, and 135 pounds soaking wet. It's what teenagers do, they smart off to people. Jesus.

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 07:55 AM

George was a professional athlete making millions of dollars, why wasn't he man enough to walk away?

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 5776300)
Question?

If your bro was man enough to make the comment, why was he not man enough to back it up? Drunk George or not.

Are you drunk?

ChiTown 05-19-2009 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 5776304)
My bro was 15, and 135 pounds soaking wet. It's what teenagers do, they smart off to people. Jesus.

ROFL

Way to leave out the "He was 15" in the original post.

So, he's not a pussy, he's just a dumbass. Thanks for the clarification.

blaise 05-19-2009 07:58 AM

No offense to your brother, but if you're going to walk up to a dude in a bar and say something like that you're looking to get popped in the mouth.

Nzoner 05-19-2009 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 5776275)
Rating don't matter, except to the people who sell ads. Point being that unless your iPod is broke, or your iPhone is out of range, or you can't get to a Wi-fi hot spot, most people aren't listening to AM radio. (unless you are driving an un-pimped out 70's vehicle with a coat hanger for an antenna). Ooop's, probably stepped on some toes.

I listen to Nick Wright in the mornings on 610,that is when I'm in my 2002 vehicle and can get a signal.

ChiTown 05-19-2009 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 5776306)
Are you drunk?

Don't I wish!

No. I have a Father-Son kickball game to go to at 11am this morning. My son's have their last day on Wednesday, and they basically get to screw off starting Monday of this week and then start their Summer vacation.

Ahhh, to be a kid once more.......

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-19-2009 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bringbackmarty (Post 5776304)
My bro was 15, and 135 pounds soaking wet. It's what teenagers do, they smart off to people. Jesus.

:D:clap:

Sure-Oz 05-19-2009 08:46 AM

Wasn't george on roger twibells show this morning at 7am?

I didn't catch it but i think they usually chat tues mornings, curious how that went since he mentioned roger.

DeezNutz 05-19-2009 08:49 AM

If an adult man is playing golf, as an amateur, it's a pretty safe bet that he's had a few cold ones. On some courses, in fact, it's a rule.

blaise 05-19-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5776393)
Wasn't george on roger twibells show this morning at 7am?

I didn't catch it but i think they usually chat tues mornings, curious how that went since he mentioned roger.

He was on. He didn't really say much. He said the reporter sort of baited him, he was sorry he cursed, but he's passionate about the Royals.

"Bob" Dobbs 05-19-2009 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TIED5573 (Post 5776275)
Rating don't matter, except to the people who sell ads. Point being that unless your iPod is broke, or your iPhone is out of range, or you can't get to a Wi-fi hot spot, most people aren't listening to AM radio. (unless you are driving an un-pimped out 70's vehicle with a coat hanger for an antenna). Ooop's, probably stepped on some toes.

You're kidding, right? That's what ratings ARE. A relatively accurate count of how many listeners there are per station. 980 is actually a strong #2 currently in KC, in Chicago (as in many other markets) an AM station is #1 overall.

Sure-Oz 05-19-2009 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5776435)
He was on. He didn't really say much. He said the reporter sort of baited him, he was sorry he cursed, but he's passionate about the Royals.

Gotcha! Twibell didn't seem bothered by it early this morning and said he'd move on.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-19-2009 09:26 AM

Somebody call 810, toast the screener, and when you get on the air launch in to "George was right, right, right, right, right"!!!!

Syradouche is threatening to have a melt down if he has to hear ANY listener say that George was right, so seize the day Planet, and let's make this happen!

ChiTown 05-19-2009 09:27 AM

I really don't see what the big deal is.
 
A former athlete opens mouth and inserts foot.

Every morning the sun rises in the East and sets in the West.

So?

tomahawk kid 05-19-2009 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Raised On Riots (Post 5776500)
Somebody call 810, toast the screener, and when you get on the air launch in to "George was right, right, right, right, right"!!!!

Syradouche is threatening to have a melt down if he has to hear ANY listener say that George was right, so seize the day Planet, and let's make this happen!

Calling in is doing exactly what they want.

Although I disagree with GB's sentiments regarding Hillman - I do agree that not listening to any of those effing dorks is the way to go.

WilliamTheIrish 05-19-2009 09:36 AM

George can say whatever he wants. He's earned that latitude with me. Championship players get that.

Hillman does not.

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-19-2009 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5776511)
Calling in is doing exactly what they want.

Although I disagree with GB's sentiments regarding Hillman - I do agree that not listening to any of those effing dorks is the way to go.


Give 'em what they want!:D

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5776312)
No offense to your brother, but if you're going to walk up to a dude in a bar and say something like that you're looking to get popped in the mouth.

None taken, my brother is a dumbass I would have to agree, especially when he was younger. As a prologue - a couple of years later my brother went up to him at the longbranch saloon on the plaza and got his autograph for me. Brett didn't remember him.

bringbackmarty 05-19-2009 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 5776325)
Don't I wish!

No. I have a Father-Son kickball game to go to at 11am this morning. My son's have their last day on Wednesday, and they basically get to screw off starting Monday of this week and then start their Summer vacation.

Ahhh, to be a kid once more.......

Kick one out of the park for old George! I definitely know what it's like to be busy with the kids. 10 year old boy keeps me busier than a whorehouse during fleet week. Cant; believe I've got another on the way. 20 more years of time that is no longer my own.

FAX 05-19-2009 10:20 AM

You know, the best thing your brother could have done is let George pound the crap out of him for a few minutes, Mr. bringbackmarty. Bruises heal and pain subsides, but 2 million in a conservative money market fund grows 24/7.

FAX

Baby Lee 05-19-2009 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAX (Post 5776218)
Exactly so, Mr. acesn8s. This is my single, best source for news and information on the Chiefs, rogue bears, and the latest exploits of Salma Hayek's breasts. An invaluable resource in an age of confusion.

FAX

LOL WHUT???

DeezNutz 05-19-2009 01:06 PM

Brett on with KK now.

DeezNutz 05-19-2009 01:09 PM

(paraphrasing) Brett: Jack not very fair to him (Hillman) the few times I've seen his program, which I try not to do.

...when a guy says when Carl Peterson was fired that this is the greatest day in Chiefs history, he has a personal vendetta...

I know he has a long run in with the Chiefs organization. I don't know people in the Royals organization that even know him because he's never out there.

DeezNutz 05-19-2009 01:10 PM

Strange allusion to the Chiefs. Remember that Carl and George are buds.

CaliforniaChief 05-19-2009 01:25 PM

I love that George is still passionate about the Royals. I love that people are passionate about the Royals again. He owned up to his poor choice of words and jumping at the reporter who asked him the question.

CoMoChief 05-19-2009 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5777110)
Strange allusion to the Chiefs. Remember that Carl and George are buds.

Of course, it helps and boosts Carl's ego. Drafting a HOF TE wasn't enough. He has to befriend a HOF baseball player as well.

Coogs 05-19-2009 01:44 PM

Damn! I am sick of this story already. Give us some Chiefs news from OTA's! :cuss:

Mr. Krab 05-19-2009 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5777110)
Strange allusion to the Chiefs. Remember that Carl and George are buds.

George just needs to STFD and sTFU. He's is doing the very thing he was critical of the media about. Talking about shit he doesn't know about.

CoMoChief 05-19-2009 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's (Post 5777229)
George just needs to STFD and sTFU. He's is doing the very thing he was critical of the media about. Talking about shit he doesn't know about.

George prob knows 3x more about the Royals organization, its players, FO, etc than the clowns that report in KC.

Sure-Oz 05-19-2009 02:16 PM

George apparently has come on 610 and 810 apologizing but stands by his words. He had a good interview with KK on 810 a bit ago

Hillman asked if he was on the sauce when this happend lol

Dartgod 05-19-2009 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5777299)
George apparently has come on 610 and 810 apologizing but stands by his words. He had a good interview with KK on 810 a bit ago

Hillman asked if he was on the sauce when this happend lol

Hillman asked? Was he on 810 too?

blaise 05-19-2009 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5777352)
Hillman asked? Was he on 810 too?

I heard George say that Trey called him last night and asked him if it was alcohol related.

Sure-Oz 05-19-2009 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5777352)
Hillman asked? Was he on 810 too?

No he wasn't on 810, i guess i heard somewhere that hillman asked if he was intoxicated

Dartgod 05-19-2009 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5777388)
I heard George say that Trey called him last night and asked him if it was alcohol related.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 5777394)
No he wasn't on 810, i guess i heard somewhere that hillman asked if he was intoxicated

Hehe. That's awesome.
Trey: Hey, 'sup man? Are you drunk or on drugs? You think I'm a good, well respected coach?
George: *hic*

Mr. Krab 05-19-2009 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 5777286)
George prob knows 3x more about the Royals organization, its players, FO, etc than the clowns that report in KC.

I meant his comments about the media.

WilliamTheIrish 05-19-2009 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 5777110)
Strange allusion to the Chiefs. Remember that Carl and George are buds.

George emphasized that the day CP was fired Jack Harry called it "The greatest sports day in Kansas City History". Which of course it was not.

He also emphasized that Harry had an axe to grind. ***Which he did. (He and Fortune were moved from the front of press row to the back when they pulled the Okoye story out of their collective asses)



**** This is no way to be deemed a defense of CP.

Titty Meat 05-19-2009 09:05 PM

George Brett is a douche

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-19-2009 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 5778746)
George Brett is a douche

:eek:

ROFL

Fish 05-19-2009 09:11 PM

Billaaaaaaaaay.......

http://adambowker.files.wordpress.co...9/timmy404.jpg

Titty Meat 05-19-2009 09:12 PM

I've never heard anyone have anything nice to say about the douche rocket other then he was a good baseball player. Who gives a **** about baseball anyway?

Pablo 05-19-2009 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 5778761)
I've never heard anyone have anything nice to say about the douche rocket other then he was a good baseball player.

Which, is coincidentally the reason people like him so much, ya know...the fact that he was a great baseball player and all.

Titty Meat 05-19-2009 09:13 PM

Yeah lets love a guy who doesn't give a **** about you. Tools

Sweet Daddy Hate 05-19-2009 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 5778765)
Yeah lets love a guy who doesn't give a **** about you. Tools

ROFL Take it to the Mecca thread!

Pablo 05-19-2009 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by billay (Post 5778765)
Yeah lets love a guy who doesn't give a **** about you. Tools

George Brett **** your dad or something?

Titty Meat 05-19-2009 09:17 PM

No he's just a giant douche. Theres better people to look up to then some drunk who acts like an asshole to the public

chiefqueen 05-19-2009 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WilliamTheIrish (Post 5777813)
George emphasized that the day CP was fired Jack Harry called it "The greatest sports day in Kansas City History". Which of course it was not.

He also emphasized that Harry had an axe to grind. ***Which he did. (He and Fortune were moved from the front of press row to the back when they pulled the Okoye story out of their collective asses)



**** This is no way to be deemed a defense of CP.

I saw it more of a warning shot to Harry in particalar, that he is not going to treat Moore or Hillman like he CP. Did Carl go too far during the 1990 season in his "punishment" of Harry and Fortune? Probably, but that doesn't excuse JacK for not letting his anger @ Carl go. IMO this became an addiction to Jack. When CP resigned he "fix" dried up. Jack is looking for a new "source" and it will be either Dayton or Trey IMO Jack just hasm't decided who it is yet.

IMO if George Brett really wants to help Trey and Dayton out, he needs to tell both men what went in KC in the summer/fall of 1990 re Jack Harry. They need to know what Harry is capable of doing.

wazu 05-19-2009 10:50 PM

Without reading through all of this, just want to report what I heard Brett say on 810 today talking to KK. He apologized for cussing, and stood by the remarks otherwise. Clearly was feeling bad about the whole thing. I could sense he felt he had spoiled an otherwise spotless reputation.

Keitzman was cool to him. Actually said (paraphrased), "you're George Brett! People in this town love you. If you were a classic car, this wouldn't equate to even a grocery store cart dent in your side!"

Brett said he wished he had been allowed a do-over before it was aired on T.V., and asked Keitzman if that's ever allowed by media. Keitzman's response: "Some guys will allow a do-over, but Jack Harry isn't one of them."

Brett ended by saying he has always worn his emotions on his sleeve, and obviously still has a high level of passion for the Royals' organization.

WilliamTheIrish 05-20-2009 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 5778894)
I saw it more of a warning shot to Harry in particalar, that he is not going to treat Moore or Hillman like he CP. Did Carl go too far during the 1990 season in his "punishment" of Harry and Fortune? Probably, but that doesn't excuse JacK for not letting his anger @ Carl go. IMO this became an addiction to Jack. When CP resigned he "fix" dried up. Jack is looking for a new "source" and it will be either Dayton or Trey IMO Jack just hasm't decided who it is yet.

IMO if George Brett really wants to help Trey and Dayton out, he needs to tell both men what went in KC in the summer/fall of 1990 re Jack Harry. They need to know what Harry is capable of doing.

Those two asshats were completely out of line regarding that situation and deservd what they got. It was bush league journalism what they did to Okoye that summer and CP had every right to twist their arms.

That said, Harry never let it go nor did CP. So both of them are to blame in many ways.

tomahawk kid 05-20-2009 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 5778894)
I saw it more of a warning shot to Harry in particalar, that he is not going to treat Moore or Hillman like he CP. Did Carl go too far during the 1990 season in his "punishment" of Harry and Fortune? Probably, but that doesn't excuse JacK for not letting his anger @ Carl go. IMO this became an addiction to Jack. When CP resigned he "fix" dried up. Jack is looking for a new "source" and it will be either Dayton or Trey IMO Jack just hasm't decided who it is yet.

IMO if George Brett really wants to help Trey and Dayton out, he needs to tell both men what went in KC in the summer/fall of 1990 re Jack Harry. They need to know what Harry is capable of doing.

What the hell did Carl do to Jack and Fortune anyway?

I don't think I've ever really gotten the fully story.

Dartgod 05-20-2009 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tomahawk kid (Post 5779108)
What the hell did Carl do to Jack and Fortune anyway?

I don't think I've ever really gotten the fully story.

Yes, I'm curious about this myself.

Sure-Oz 05-20-2009 08:09 AM

No idea either i just know he tried to get Jack Harry and Don Fortune fired and they basically had their press passes revoked or something to that degree

blaise 05-20-2009 08:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 5779195)
Yes, I'm curious about this myself.

Wasn't it something like Okoye's newborn son died, and so he didn't go to training camp right away. And Jack and Fortune rode Okoye and said he was holding out in solidarity with some other players that were holding out?

Sure-Oz 05-20-2009 08:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blaise (Post 5779227)
Wasn't it something like Okoye's newborn son died, and so he didn't go to training camp right away. And Jack and Fortune rode Okoye and said he was holding out in solidarity with some other players that were holding out?

Forgot about the okoye thing...

i love my okoye invisible picture and autograph

Deberg_1990 05-20-2009 08:46 AM

You knew it was inevitable. Whitlock chimes in and pounds on Harry, Keitzman and Twibell.







http://www.kansascity.com/sports/col...y/1206870.html



I love to cuss. Four-letter words roll off my tongue the way a basketball slipped off George Gervin’s fingertips inches from the rim.

So even miles away while on vacation, George Brett’s F-bomb rampage tickled my ears and caught my attention.

Please allow me to translate what the Hall of Fame third baseman truly meant when he called out Kevin Kietzman, Jack Harry, Roger Twibell and Dave Stewart for their criticism of Royals manager Trey Hillman.

People who are offended by swearing rarely understand the true meaning of a profanity-laced tirade. I don’t have this problem. Having grown up inside my dad’s neighborhood tavern, I learned at a young age that there are at least eight different ways to use the word motherF-bomb, and really only two of the eight uses are pejorative. (You can e-mail me if you want to know the eight different ways to use it.)

My point is, I know exactly what Brett was trying to say Monday at the Joe McGuff charity golf event. The key to translating a profanity-laced meltdown is to avoid focusing on what is said and pay careful attention to what isn’t said.

George Brett didn’t mention these three names — Joe Posnanski, Soren Petro and Danny Clinkscale. JoPo, Petro and Clinkscale have all been critical of Trey Hillman. Petro, who hosts a radio show on 810 WHB-AM, is arguably Hillman’s toughest critic. Clinkscale, Kietzman’s sidekick on WHB, regularly questions Hillman’s moves. And Posnanski, my colleague at The Star, has written a couple of columns this year tearing into Hillman.

Why were they left out of Brett’s rant?

I’d argue it’s because they’re highly informed about the Royals, attend numerous games, frequent the clubhouse and attempt to ascertain both sides of the story. They’re fair, and their criticism is authentic.

Kietzman, Harry and Twibell are clueless, and much of their conversation about the Royals comes from a very dishonest, self-serving place. It’s an attempt to grab ratings.

Even with the benefit of a map, compass, a pack of hunting dogs and GPS, Kietzman, Harry and Twibell couldn’t locate the locker-room facilities at Arrowhead Stadium, Kauffman Stadium, Missouri, Kansas, Kansas State or Pembroke Hill High School.

They criticize from the safest distance possible. And they hit the airwaves and feign an insider’s knowledge.

Honestly, I find it all rather amusing. But I can see why it would eventually bother someone like George Brett. The guy loves the Royals. The team is just beginning to show signs of real life.

And Harry and Twibell grasp for relevancy by playing an insincere and cowardly game with Hillman’s every decision. It’s not really a game with Kietzman. It’s who he is.

Kietzman had Brett on the air Tuesday and, among other things, made a ridiculous analogy comparing Hillman’s task to what Kietzman’s high school “manager” faced leading Shawnee Mission Midwest to the 1972 Big School Championship. Brett, to his credit, did not laugh out loud. Kietzman finished his brown-nosing session by explaining that he just couldn’t figure out why the rest of the media don’t like good old Trey Hillman.

Brett — and I suspect Hillman, Dayton Moore and everyone else within the Royals’ organization — is OK with Hillman being ripped and grilled.

Brett would just prefer that Hillman’s most vocal critics be the journalists/broadcasters who spend time at the ballpark confronting Hillman face to face.

I give Brett credit for taking the time Tuesday to conduct interviews with Twibell and Kietzman. Brett refused to back down. He apologized for his profanity but stood by his message.

He’s too polite to properly translate, so I’ll summarize:

1. Harry is way past his prime with terrible TV ratings.

2. Kietzman is a talented but disingenuous opportunist.

3. Twibell is hoping he can fool Entercom into supporting his golf habit for another year.


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