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Originally Posted by allbusiness
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TO DANE MCCLOUD
Born and raised in Kansas and I lived there for 27 years. I've resided in the Hollywood, CA area since 1993.
Location
Hollywood,CA
Occupation
Entertainment
Yep, there it is folks, Dane MCCloud's Bio. Did I miss something? You told me to look there Dane and I did.
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"Matt", you're a ****ing idiot. Plain and simple. There really aren't any other words to describe a ****ing moron like you that shows up on football site to defend the honor of woman that you booked more than 12 years ago. You actually come across to me like a sociopaths stalker. Additionally, you've made contradictory statements that I will soon address.
FTR, I joined this forum in 2000 and came over from the KC Star board. There were a lot of weird ****ing people on that site and on this site. There was no way in hell I was going to sign up using my real name and list my occupation so that people could call me directly at Paramount Studios. Duh. There are more than 11,000 actual members here (and probably thousands of lurkers) and for me to expose myself would have been beyond stupid.
There are people on this forum who I trust. They've met me, we share personal information, Facebook, etc. That number, however, is very small. Why? I have a massive amount of internet exposure. I have a website for my business (which by the way, contains no lies or exaggeration as to my work or abilities). My wife and I own an e-commerce site as well as a pilates studio. All of these have internet presence. As much as I love hanging out here and call
many of these people friends, again, there's too much exposure. Hell, I even like many of the people that don't like me (Hootie, that includes you).
And if you think that my Chiefsplanet Bio was my "real" bio, you're dumber than I previously thought. The reason I sent you there was because you accused me of living and working in the Ent. business in KC, which couldn't be further from the truth.
Dumb****.
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Originally Posted by allbusiness
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Also, I googled you once more and uh.... found nothing again except something about you never paid for a lap dance. Impressive! Probably not true though.
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Again, Dane McCloud is not my real name. And I've never paid for a dance in my life. I've banged a countless number of strippers (and lived with a few), dated models (you'd know of them, if you are you
who say your are, which I doubt) and when I was single, had a lot of fun in strip clubs. I used to hang out with DT because he was bangin' a chick's roomate who I used to bang. Strip clubs in KC were an absolute blast in the late 80's and early 90's. Not that you'd know anything about that. But I can absolutely guarantee you that every one of my friends will back me up.
You sound jealous.
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Originally Posted by allbusiness
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Please refer me to anything else important about you that you would like to share. You said you worked for Universal and Paramount? Operative words "used to"? And what did you do there? And now working on Post Production projects? What rating do those movies have? XXX I assume from your love of strip clubs. Oh my what a messy job for you.
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If you want to know more about me, the Advance Search is your friend. I'm not inclined to share any further information with you in this thread. Nearly everything that you'd want to know about my professional life at Uni & Paramount can be found using the search.
And no, I do not work in the porn industry, much to the chagrin of many of our members. I have a very close friend that works in that business and I'm often invited to events (Playboy Mansion parties, AVN Awards, etc.) but I'm married and would rather be with my wife than porn sluts (sad but true, right fellas?). My Facebook friends are welcome to confirm this if they'd like but honestly, it's not necessary.
Furthermore, it's absolutely shocking to me that you lived and worked in Los Angeles because you come across as a total prude. You should know as well I that Strip Clubs are a haven for celebrities and execs. I used to hang out at Crazy Girls on Sunset (Matt Sorum and I had a "table" for months) and run into everyone from David Boreanez, Pam Anderson, Kid Rock, so on and etc. Hell, one of the coolest nights there was drinking with David Lee Roth back in 2002. ****in' Dave!
One more reason why I don't think you are who you say your are: You come across like a Bible-Thumper, not an Angeleno. My wife's been to strip clubs for ****'s sake.
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Truth be known, I did not want to participate in a DICK MEASURING CONTEST with you, stooping to your level. I am an amiable man who just wanted to protect a nice young lady and set the record straight.
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Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. You came on here to defend the honor of a woman you "allegedly" booked more than 12 years ago. You were looking for a fight. Don't ****ing lie, asswipe.
I know a ****ing phony when I see one.
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Ok, I pissed you off so you really started bashing Miss Starr with your opinions.
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My opinion? You signed up on this forum to dispute and argue with
my opinion? JFC, what kind of life do you have, Man? I guess my opinion is just
that important.
LMAO
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Originally Posted by allbusiness
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1. CLICK agency was then and now a very successful model and talent agency. Perhaps you know Elle MacPherson or Uma Therman to name a few talents from that agency?
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They aren't there now, are they (it's Uma
Thurman, cockbag). I've never heard of them. I banged a chick from IT models, knew girls from Ford and Elite but never heard of "Click". Anyway, who the **** cares?
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2. Miss Starr.... Beat? Gentlemen please google Holly Starr Kansas City -- Holly Starr Vegas for starters. Check out ONEMODELPLACE.com and see just how Beat she is.
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Um, the other guys have already made comments. Why do you need mine? I've already told you, she's an Los Angeles 6.5. I think we now know why you're out of the modeling business.
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Dane, you know you just say that because you don't have a chance with women of her calibar. That is why you go to strip clubs.
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ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL
This is awesome! I mean, just ****ing awesome! You have absolutely NO idea of who I am, what I look like, what I do - nothing! Yet you exclaim that I couldn't get this chick? LMAO
Dude, I've banged hot models, hot strippers, hot actresses and back before I met my wife, just about any hot chick that I met. Furthermore, I don't like to discuss my wife very often but I absolutely guarantee you that your jaw would hit the ****ing floor if you met her. She's modeled and she's been in international television commercials (when she was younger).
You sound like an older brother - not a ****ing talent agent. JFC.
Phony.
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3. Yes, I did reside in West Hollywood. I am now the CEO of a very successful company in San Fran. Can't give you the details because people like yourself can be very vindictive!
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Yeah, right.
You're asking for my personal information and my work background on a public forum, yet you're unwilling to share your info because someone like me could be vindictive? Is this a ****ing joke?
Phony.
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4. To set the record straight, I did not imply that Miss Starr was too good to be in Hollywood.
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Yes, you did. So has she, on her website.
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I said she was not willing to exchange her morals for profit in a city she did not feel comfortable in.
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Whoa, whoa, whoa. Stop,
right there.
You were her booker, correct? What in God's name where you asking her to do that was immoral? Porn? Topless? Nudies? As far as I can tell, "Click" was for models, not a talent agency like CAA or Endeavor or W.M. What the hell were
you asking her to do?
Again, phony.
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She was 19 years old, green and from a small town. It does not take long to witness the dysfunction in Hollywood. To say that NO ONE could resist the opportunity to be famous is rediculous.
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So, Kansas City is now a "small town"? I'd bet that 11,000+ forum members would disagree. Furthermore, I saw just as many drugs, drunks and degenerates in KC than I saw in Hollywood my first several years living here. Probably more in KC (sorry, Dudes). The
overwhelming majority of people I worked with in the business during the day and on my real career at night were way too focused on "making it" than to engage in activities that would derail their dream.
I think you're ****ing full of shit. And a phony. And this whole of idea of resisting "fame", Dude, WTF? 99% of all of the people out here come here to ****ing WORK. Fame is something that occurs if you're working. If you're not working, you're not famous. One follows the other. And furthermore, 90% of THOSE people wouldn't even be considered "famous".
JFC. You're so ****ing full of shit.
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Originally Posted by allbusiness
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That would be like saying all scrotum- scratching forum junkies are stupid! And no I was not suggesting that everyone in Hollywood is immoral and twisted. Just you, Paris Hilton and a handful of others.
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Well, I'd be willing to bet that my wife, siblings, friends, neighbors, former co-workers and even people here on the 'Planet would be more than willing to disagree with the notion that I'm in any way, shape or form, "twisted or immoral".
More and more, you sound like a family member of Ms. Starr, not a person who's worked in the 'Biz.
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4. Now, with regard to those movies Miss Starr was in. Come on. Anyone with half a brain can tell that she had to have been 13 or 14 years old and it was shot locally and just for fun. They are totally rated G. The titles for the movies were most likely just to attack the male pervs.... Anyway, I am certain Miss Starr probably just laughs at them. I remember her sense of humor as being one of her best attributes.
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You know, I have to say, you're a creepy ****. For someone that only stayed a very short period of time in Hollywood more than 12 years ago, you sure seem to remember an awful lot.
Furthermore, this illustrates the main point of your defense: You stated that she appeared in several movies and commercials. She's only listed in IMDB for those TWO movies, shot in 1991. Where are all of these other "appearances"? Where?
Don't give me this shit that they're just aren't listed because AS an IMDB member, I know for a fact that an excuse like that is just that: An excuse. I've got a friend that did Post (Foley) on eight movies in 1998. He doesn't even have an IMDB profile but his credits exist. He left that industry in 1999 and wasn't even aware that he was listed on IMDB!
If Ms. Starr had all of these "appearances" that you speak of, they'd be on there.
Phony.
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5. As for Sunset Beach, the soap opera. Yes she did read for the part. Fact is, by the time the project for the show was in fruition, Miss Starr had already gone back to Kansas and was finishing her college education. We contacted her and she was still under contract with Click at the time finishing out her year with us, flying back and forth if needed. As stated, she chose her to not lose her outstanding GPA by ditching the courses. It was a Spelling production.
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I know it was a Spelling Production, ****er. It was produced by Paramount. I (me, Dane McCloud) personally administered the publishing rights to Sunset Beach and reported directly to Spelling in this particular case.
Furthermore, was Click a talent agency? Are you now telling us that you sent actresses out to casting calls? If so, you're telling me that Ms. Starr went to the casting agency, was offered the gig and rejected it?
Or are you telling us that you sent over a headshot, they agreed to meet her and read for the casting agent? This is MUCH more likely but as anyone in Los Angeles can tell you, BIG ****ING DEAL.
Actors and actresses go out on casting calls EVERY ****ING DAY. Why do you think that they all want flexible hours and work as waiters and waitresses? To keep their days free for what? CASTING CALLS.
Again, you're ****ing Draino baby.
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6. And last, what I meant by "she is the real deal" is that she was and most likely is a very genuine nice small town girl". There is nothing wrong for settling for local celebrity... and now Vegas. There are more important things in life you know...... such as being a popular CHIEFS PLANET LEGEND who likes to surf the net for blogs and forums to share his blow gut opinions and non-truths with other attention starved males who can't wait to hear what he has to say!!! Sweet. ( there are some real gentlemen on here however...)
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Again, with the "small town girl" nonsense. That goes back to my original point in my original post. She came to Hollywood, found out that there are 50,000 actresses within a 4 mile radius that are more talented and more driven than she was at the time, so she went back home.
Isn't that the truth? And even if it IS the truth, what's wrong with the truth? Furthermore, if she really wanted to make it, why not enroll at UCLA Film School or USC Film School? Why high-tail it back to KC and go to Park College? I mean, come the **** on.
And how would YOU know if there are "nice gentlemen" on this forum? You JUST SIGNED UP.
Phony.
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Originally Posted by allbusiness
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One last thing, you asked about Miss Starr and her Vegas gig. I can not answer what it is exactly but I do know that I saw her at least 6 or 8 times in an hour on the set. She was introducing shows and doing commercials, etc. She looked amazing and not a day older than 24. Just for you Dane, I am going to check it out and get back with you. The station is closed today but since you and I are such good friends now, I will be relentless in my pursuit . I will find out as much about Holly Starr as I can. I am a renewed fan. I will even try to contact her and see if she has any comments!
Matt
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Matt, I don't give a ****. I don't give a **** about you, I don't give a **** about her. It's really strange to me (and probably everyone else who's read this) that you got all ****ing butt hurt about a supposed client you had for a very short time more than 12 years ago.
I think you're a complete and utter phony and all you've done is embarrass Ms. "Starr" because people here will search this shit out and will go to further lengths to embarrass her.
First rule of Chiefsplanet, Matt: Don't
**** with Chiefsplanet.
In closing, I'd just like to say, Go **** YOURSELF, Matt.
