Thigpen couldn't wash Croyle's fuqin car.

Lets not.

Unless he has a hole as big as GoChiefs moms vagina,he wont do shit but cry and pout, fall over and remind us of Donnell Bennett...

No shit and leave us Thigpen? ROFL No ****ing way... Trade Thigpen for a box of soap....

Considering he didn't have a full week of practicing with the 1's he did alright.

No worse than I have ever seen him play and he survived which everybody expected him to die at 1:32 into the first quarter.

Seriously he is an a decent QB at best and he played like it today.

Thiggy's future is at Lambert's. "The home of Throwed rolls."

Those rainbow passes are easy for the customers to catch.

If the man stays healthy, and we get a decent offensive line, I think he has the ability to be pretty good.

What are the chances of us getting a decent O-Line. Slim to none.

Croyle showed today something that Thigpen has never shown in his entire "career" - that on some level, you could see him playing QB competently in the NFL. Running an offense, standing in the pocket, taking the snap from under center - playing QB competently in the NFL.

It's not even close.

Thigpen has bottom-of-the-barrel NFL accuracy.

Ahh no, Huard always sucked. He handed the ball of to LJ a record amount of times, and threw his rainbow passes to TG so high it almost got him killed. Easier for him to stay healthy though, if anyone was within 10 feet of the POS he would curl up in the fetal position.

Croyle did a great job today behind one of the worse O-lines I think I have ever seen, and NO running game. Throw in a ****ing reciever that seems to not be able to figure out were a first down marker is. All in all he did great.

I bet he would be pretty damn good behind a decent line, JMO.

I am sure hootie/baby got huard is still jacking off to pictures to him to this day..

Agreed.

True, but his lack of effort is so blindingly obvious, I honestly don't see him being a consistent or reliable contributor.
No heart. All quit.

I don't agree with that at all. LJ dearly wants to be a star, a baller... I don't question his effort.

That's his whole problem, when he can't get blocks... and break off some big runs... he pouts and gets cranky.

Watch his run to the right outside or remember it if you can. Weak sauce, weak finish.

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A hungry RB would have at least tried to juke that defender.

I was wondering the same thing, probably a bit of both.

Herm had a history of getting QBs killed. It happened in NY, it happened in KC. That was more the problem than Croyle being fragile. Poor conditioning, poor play calling, poor OLs.

Despite the outcome, i dont see how anyone argues about Brodie's play, toughness or effort.

He was firing tracer rounds once the O got rid of the jitters & his statline is, almost, impeccable.

I don't. He couldn't have made that long pass to Bradley, he's just not accurate enough.

I really (still) think Croyle has a chance to be a quality QB in the NFL.

Maybe even only as a career backup, but he's the type of guy that could step in and win you a game or two. (on a more talented roster)

If Cassel chooses to hold on to the ball too long like he did a lot in NE last year, HE'S GOING TO GET KILLED behind this line. Croyle did a pretty good job of letting it fly in less than 3 seconds. If our QB's hold on to it 5 seconds they'll be sacked 90% of the time.

Urban myth.

Alright, fine.

Not an Urban Myth.

I've never doubted that he was good. I think he'd be awesome if we had a o-line.

Croyle earned his paycheck today ...

...and yet you post this:

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with a thread title:

Haley berates Croyle for a weak-minded fool

Found here:

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As if Haley wouldn't bust the chops of any of his QBs...

Cassel will hear plenty of it, I'm quite sure.

LMAO

BEST DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE. GIVE HIM A BREAK. I just can't wait for Cassel to come in though...

He let's his players know when they **** up. This is a good thing. See what Herm got us? A bunch of fat pussies. That's why Haley is a great stepping stone (probably not the answer), but again, the right coach can come in in 2 years and take us to the house.

Like I said before your team is a direct reflection of its head coach.A couple of years from now,good drafting and some key pickups,BOOM!!!!! Were back fuggers!!!!:thumb:

Oh and in that same time period Mc Diskstick will run off the rest of his able bodied players get fired and be replaced by Dom Capers!!!ROFL

Well, he happens to have praise for Croyle play, and for Haley being tough. Nothing wrong with that.

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He actually went over to Cassel after he got done with Brodie and gave him an ear full also.

Fat pussies is exatly right.Whats Tank Tyler up to?400-500 lbs?He looks like Fatlock's fuggn brother!!!!!:doh!:

I don't know about that. The first half of play lost us the game. We didn't get any first downs until the final minutes of the half. When I saw the 20 minutes TOP in the first half, my first comment in the bar was "the defense is going to be completely gassed."

I don't blame Brodie for that. That's what I would expect from a backup QB playing behind this o-line. But I think most people would agree that Cassel would have gotten off to a better, quicker start.

As I've always said, I really like Croyle. He's a really good QB. but his injury history is still a major concern and I still laugh at anyone who thinks that one injury-free game suddenly makes him less of an injury concern. He has to prove that he can play 15 more injury-free games as a starter to ever take away that label.

"Did you see that shit?"

"Yes sir, coach."

"If you pull some shit like that, I will rip your ****ing arms off, and beat you to death with them. Are we clear?"

"Yes Sir, coach."

"**** you... Go get me a Gatorade."

How in the world could anyone know that after 1 game? Maybe you could explain your reasoning (if you have any).

It's called a joke, dumbass.

You really need to get off my ass.

LMAO

Good one! He got so nutted up that he couldn'tsnap the ball and his HC had to get in his face and tell him to,"SNAP THE ****ING BALL!"...LOL!

He won't have to get nutted. If he can stay healthy for short periods of time he's a perfect backup. He'll come off the bench in the playoffs and lead an important drive on our way to glory someday!

I agree about his value as a backup. I don't know why people are so anxious to get rid of valuable backups for measley draft picks. Backups are a lot more important than they get credit for. My question is if Croyle will want to commit to the backup role or if he'll eventually try to find a team as a free agent who will give him the opportunity to start.

Croyle sucks.
He lost again.

Croyle takes a lot of vicious hits and gets up. He is tougher than people think. Especially mentally. Very poised for someone with almost no protection.

LJ has no vision. He sees only the hole that's supposed to be there. If it's there he looks good. If not, he has no tendency to look for or create another one.

This...

You're right about the backup part. I suppose if he does nut freeze in the playoffs, Haley could yell in his helmet to," SNAP THE ****ING BALL!"

I don't deny that he's tough. But he is injury prone... period. In his short career, if you include college, Croyle has started 35 games and has been unable to play due to injury in about 28 games.

Dude, everybody is explaining it to you. He played against a ferocious defense. He had an O-line that gave him zero time and almost no running game. He still had us in the game. No INTs and a TD pass. Would Peyton have done a lot better?

I don't think anyone was asking that question.

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For all of you that don't agree with my assessment, that's your opinion, I do think that you are overlooking what Thigpen did last year with a shitty line. What could he do with a good OL? Passing he is not Croyle by any comparison, but his short accuracy and his ability to get away from the rush has some value. How deep is the OL in KC?

With protection Croyle should be a fine QB for someone, I doubt that he will be in KC after this year if Cassel comes back and is able to show the same level of play as he did with NE. If Cassel comes back in and plays worse than Crolye did today who do you think will be starting? Cassel, money paid forces the Chiefs to go with him.

If you are looking at passing only Croyle has a cannon. Last year he threw a ball 70 yards in the air and tha's just the vertical yardage not the lateral yardage across the field. Croyle tends to make bonehead mistakes. Based on their strengths, I still feel that Thigpen can win as many games as Croyle with the same line.

No, he doesn't.

Thigpen does, however. He led the league in dropped interceptions last year.

Thigpen is worthless without a HOF receiver like Tony Gonzalez taking the pressure off.

Did anybody else note the frenetic pace both Brodie and Thiggy played at today ? Even the handoffs were speeded up. Hoping to get LJ to the hole while it was still open if it opened at all. The QB's were under tremendous pressure today. I thought Brodie did especially well.

Your opinion is noted, it's rejected due to actual facts, but it's noted.

What?

The actual FACTS are that Thigpen looked like complete shit this preseason and Croyle took his job.

All you need to know about Thigpen is that when he went into the game, they ran a draw, handed the ball off, and then ran a pitch.

The Chiefs are probably scared shitless of him actually throwing a pass against a team like the Ravens.

Your facts are noted, and accepted as facts.

Your memory is as short as your attention span. Croyle was pulled from the game because the HC felt he was ****ing up. Thigpen wasn't supposed to do anything other than what he did.

Your facts basically moot, no QB goes into the game cold with virtually no snaps during the week and throws a pass. Get your head out of your ass and get a grip on reality.

What are you? gogoat's girlfriend?

The fact that Croyle beat out Thigpen this year is moot?

Give me a ****ing break.

No, I just hate your boyfriend. Because he sucks and has no place on an NFL roster.

The truth hurts; deal with it.

And yet, Thigpen is active and Gutterrez isn't.

I don't understand why you hate the guy so much. He's clearly the #3 QB on this roster, but your claim that he doesn't belong on any roster is really ****ing ridiculous. Haley/Pioli seem to disagree, and it's pretty clear they haven't played favorites this season.

I would think you were smarter than the average asshole but it looks like you are a massive fail.

Must suck to be you.

Your inability to judge talent in ball players probably is second only to your 6 years in the 2nd grade.

St. Louis.

Dude, I like Tyler Thigpen too, but I don't understand what you're arguing about here. Croyle played well given the shitty offensive line support today. Thigpen is a long way behind in terms of learning a pro style offense--he looked better today, but in the preseason, it was clear he needed some work on his mechanics and footwork.

There's nothing to argue here. Croyle started, as he should have. And he did well given the circumstances.

Croyle could have thrown for 400 yards today and won the game, and it wouldn't matter. Croyle is to fragile to be a starting QB in the NFL. He proved that last season.

Brodie has talent...as does nearly every QB in the league...problem is most other QB's aren't made of glass like Croyle is.

Everyone can talk about Croyle's arm strength, etc...The bottom line is and always will be how fragile he is.
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He's been tougher and stronger this year, that you can not deny. And I'll go out on a limb and say that I DO feel comfortable with him at #2, and I trust him at #2.
And unlike Tyler The ****ing Hobbit Thigpen, Croyle has shown us he can function in a pro style offense, and doesn't need a ****ing college offensive scheme to make something happen.

The days of that Mickey Mouse Spread-horseshit are OVER with the Kansas City Chiefs, and that makes Tyler The ****ing Hobbit Thigpen an expendable asset.
Good riddance and case..****ing..closed.

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Croyle has always been tough. I just don't understand how one healthy game suddenly makes him less injury prone. Healthy QBs stay healthy for multiple FULL SEASONS. How does one game change that? Croyle's a good QB, but he'll never shake the injury thing. He's suffered 2 season-ending injuries in only 5 seasons as a starter (college and pro) and he's had three major injuries that either sidelined him for a few games or forced to play at less than 100%.

As for Thigpen, again, he's active on the Chiefs' roster, while Matt Gutterrez is not. You keep making this claim that the Chiefs don't want him, and yet he's still on the roster while guys like Pollard and Taylor or not.

Slim pickin's as far as replacements go. Hell, Thigpen can stay at number three and rot for all I care. The chances of us having to use him are slim to none when Cassel is healthy.

But people on this board keep suggesting that Thigpen has no place on an NFL roster and that Gutterrez was easily the choice for #3. And yet, Thigpen is the active one while Gutterrez is not.

I know Thigpen isn't that good right now. I just can't stand the exaggeration that he doesn't belong on an NFL roster. I think #3 QB is perfect for him too. Haley's said they've been working with him on his footwork and on playing in a pro set. I just don't understand why people are so opposed to him getting that chance to learn it.

Cause they wanna kick a man while hes down.

I dunno about the other locations, but in Ozark, there's flags hanging from the ceiling everywhere, and the rainbow toss doesn't deliver. You gotta sling it, and some throwers just don't cut the mustard.

The point is that Thigpen is not as bad as gogoat has said. He has talents that are valuable, if he didn't he wouldn't be where he is.

Making a determination of a players worth on three downs in a game with virtually no snaps during the week is just plain stupid. i.e. gogoat.

Your argument shows you are as stupid as gogoat. One game and you have announced him as the second coming of Christ. Let me give you a little hint that might help you. The Chiefs lost the game. If your boy was as good as you are trying to tell us he would have had a first down way earlier than he did.

Croyle is not a waste of time and Thigpen is just as good in the way he plays the game. Given equal practice snaps the outcome of the games would be the same. The way the games are played would be different because they play the game differently. Get real and just accept the fact that Thigpen is on the roster because he is better than you think.

Stats wise, he performed pretty well considering the vast amount of NFL experience he's had. Hell, Thigpen's played more regular season snaps than Croyle.

I didn't see the game, but I imagine he saw a lot of pretty big Ravens pretty close up pretty much all day long.

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This is funny because just last night you said you didn't think he should even be on the roster.

Posted by RoR yesterday at 6:43 PM:

Yeah, NO.

Let me give you a little hint, you ****ing asshat:

The ONLY reason your boyfriend is on this ****ing roster, is because of his performance it St. Louis; he took it right up the ass and sucked his way on to a roster spot because he obliterated his trade value.

OH, WE ALL HAVE SEEMED TO CONVENIENTLY FORGOTTEN ABOUT THAT LITTLE FACTOID, NOW DIDN'T WE?!

And I can guaran-****ing TEE YOU that Pioli is kicking himself in the ass every time he has to look at that little shit, for not taking a 5th when it was offered!

So **** you, **** your boyfriend, **** your attitude, and don't waste anymore of my time with your utter lack of knowledge and reality.

Who the **** knows if we were actually offered a fifth for him. 1 Arrowhead Drive is Fort Knox, but somehow that information is going to get out? I find it strange that some people believe everything they hear, even if it is speculation.

Being able to not die when hit and running ability are pretty ****ing far down the list when it comes to talents required for a QB.

He has no poise, footwork, mechanics, arm strength, ability to read a defense, situational awareness, or competency from under center...but aside from that, he's a ****ing great QB prospect.

Jesus Christ, he's a ****ing white Willie Beamen.