How is this not at the top of the forum?

JESUS CHRIST!

Anyone else think that Cassel looks a bit like Drew Bledsoe in that clip?

I noticed that from that point on, Brodie went apeshit if the center was late with the snap.

Later in the game I saw Haley say "don't be a pussy"

then at the Herm presser. "yeah, yeah, heh heh. It's a tough place for a young guy to learn. But he lernt. he lernt all right."

What did you tell him on the side lines?

"Just dont get flustered. keeps you posure. Did some good things. Did some good things. Grew a little bit today. Yup."

Players didn't care for Gunthers use of the Lord's name. Haley should take heed. Then again it might not matter much about a decade latter.

Wow. I can hear that in his voice.

Scary.

ROFL

Awesome!

ROFLROFLROFL

Can we get a .gif of this? Too funny.

I love me some Todd Haley. I kinda wish I could see him as TG's coach, just to see the dynamic between the two.

When?

Actually, I think it was right after half-time, and he asked him "Did you WIPE your pussy."

I'll bet if they measured Haley's testosterone level it'd be well over 1,000 (normal is 500-800).

The guy seems like a classless jackass. I wonder how long before there is a mutiny in the locker room.

There's no crying in football.

I think it's refreshing. This aint tennis.

No, but there is still this human thing called respect that I think should transcend sports.

Indeed.

When Croyle threw a touchdown, Haley commended him.

"That's the way to be a quarterback Brodie, way to go."

This is the NFL. Respect is not given. It is earned.

Thats right.:clap:Their getting paid to do a job,not children in need of daycare.

Just sayin that basic human psychology 101 would indicate that the players will not respect Haley because of his antics. They might perform out of fear and intimidation but will not perform out of respect or a desire to perform well for him based on that respect.

I hate to agree with you but I do. Haley is a classless jackass.

I could care less if he turns the Chiefs into a winner.

Lots of mean spirtited jackasses have beee great coaches.

As long as they perform, who cares.

Parcells didnt have the guys over for dinner, why?...because he didnt have to, its the NFL.

If he's fair (as GoChiefs pointed out he was with Croyle) they'll respect him.

And more importantly, if they WIN, they'll respect him even more.

You can get away with it if you win. Haley has 0 NFL wins.

Oh look.

Raider fan chimes in.

He also only has one NFL loss. A little early for this don't ya think?

Come on Skip.

I get the stupid bitch wouldn't get it, she is after all, a stupid bitch.

They hug in the huddle, FFS.

Is she a Raider fan? That would make so much sense.

Maybe. But chances are they will just accept him vs. respect him. No one likes to see a teammate or coworker or student belittled because they know one day it could be them.

Again, fear and intimidation are a motivator only to a point.

I don't think you understand the world of sports very well at all.

And your analogies are proof of this.

I understand that athletes these days are prima donnas and that the type of personality/coaching style that Haley has does not compute with the mind set of those individuals. This ain't the sports world of 20 years ago.

If you were talking about an office manager, you'd be making sense.

Players that dont want to 'get' Haleys style will get 3 choices...coal mine, moonshine, take it down the line.

Did you not see the example GoChiefs provided where he gave Brodie a pat on the back after the TD?

It's not like he's lashing out at anybody, any time, for no good reason.

But I guess you've got to find something new about your least favorite team to complain about.

I guess only time will tell. I'm pretty confident in my belief that his coaching style will win him more problems than points both on the board and in the locker room.

I guess Tom Couglin's hardass approach failed the Giants a couple of years ago when they won the Super Bowl.

I guess BIll Cowher's hardass appproach won him more problems than games, and a SB, which is why he had to retire.

I guess Mike Tomlin's hardass approach had the same effect.

Oh, and of course Bill Bellicheck's hardass approach is totally loser.

JFC

Yeah don't forget Bill Parcells that guy sucked as a coach :shake:

but it was ok for red ass gannon and Gruden. Somehow i guess that's different in her eyes.

Actually I make this opinion with him in mind. Many of his players ended up hating him.

I'm not saying all coaches can't win using this method. I am saying that it won't work with most and especially with this particular one in this situation. The team is too new, the management to new, the changes too fresh for a new rookie coach to be throwing around his weight and acting like that. Especially given the lack of veteran leadership on the team.

Almost every single HC that has won a SB has a reputation as a demanding hardass.

From Vince Lombardi to Hank Stram to Chuck Noll to Bill Walsh to Jimmy Johnson to Bill Bellichick to Mike Tomlin.

The only "nice guy" coaches to win are Dick Vermeil and Tony Dungy.

That is some fine work right there. Well done Clayton. Best laugh I had all day.

Thanks. Someone with voice talent should send me a recording of those lines. I could make a hilarious video!

Since when does being demanding equate to being disrespectful?

Did he call Croyle names or something?

He just emphasized his point with a few choice words.

You are overreacting.

go ask Warner, Fitzgerald or Boldin what they think of his approach.

just quit

dont be a pussy...Haley will make men out of this team full of kids!

I think Haley cares more that his players have self-respect. Pushing them to be their best and not tolerating the mental mistakes or soft play is going to do that more than being their best friend or being soft on them. That was Herm's way. And it led to a team that had almost no self-respect. He's in charge of getting rid of their stinking thinking. He's the one who will give them their check up from the neck up.

I disagree with your analysis. I tend to believe that Todd Haley understands football psychology 101 just fine.

Pen, where have you been? Seems you've been MIA on the dark side...

What he did with Croyle was not belittling him. Now if he had called him a dumb **** then you might have an argument. But the mere act of expressing his disapproval in the aggressive way he did probably got Croyle's attention. It was clearly a teaching moment. One that was delivered with tough love.

ha ha. I just like what Haley's doing. We finally got us a real football coach.

Nice dodge there, Pen. I know why you've been MIA. I would be too. I'll give you a break till you decide to show up there. :D

'the do you hear me' sounds like a Dad talking to a freakin 4 year old. That was condescending. My God, the guy knows enough about playing QB and snapping a Gdamn ball that he made to the freakin NFL.

The guy is just a jackass. I don't like him and I hope I'm wrong about him because the Chiefs need to start winning.

Croyle was staring off into space somewhere else.

That's why he said that.

Evidently not. That's why he didn't snap the ball. Explaining Haley's ire.

Just when I thought I couldn't feel any better about Haley.

You only think you know. Which is par for the course for you. I've been around and I still keep up with it but my input is irrelevant. Way too much zealotry going on for my taste. Most people don't really read what others have to say anyway.

He probably wouldn't have had to say that to him if Brodie had been looking at him instead of acting as though he wasn't paying attention.

I think why Haley is going to be successful with his approach is because it's not a surprise to players. They knew coming into this year Haley was an asshole. I bet Haley's first meeting with the team he advised them how he coaches and that he will at times, cuss his brains out and yell at you like there is no tomorrow, and you are just going to have to deal with it. As long as he treats everybody the same, I don't think there will be any problems.

As long as he praises his players with the same fire he uses to scold them...
He'll be fine.

Who let that thing out of DC?

bump. This gif is hilarious

Not a whole lot of coaching going on there. Yeah you yell at'em Haley! That'll teach'em. LMAO

I would pay to see the players' reactions on day 1 when Haley walked in the door and started screaming at them after dealing with lax Herm for so long.

Well, Brodie made damn sure not to make the same mistake the rest of the game. Seems like his point worked.

Oh, give me a ****ing break. These guys are getting paid a lot of money to do what they love to do. They don't work in a ****ing cubicle. I love me some Todd Haley!

Whip some ass today, Haley.

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I wonder if this will be a weekly show.

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I loved that the mics picked up Haley saying "that's a bullshit call"

It is probably the only redeeming factor of watching plays go bad. You know they'll pan the camera to Haley letting out the hate.

It sure as shit should be. Haley is ****ing awesome. He's the Bob Knight of the NFL in terms of temper.

I'd like to get an audio feed from Haley over the course of an entire game or an entire season. I edit it down to the best parts and then loop it over and over again in my house 24/7. I can't believe the TV people opened a mic anywhere near him. I'm somewhat surprised that they keep showing live video of him since it's so easy to figure out the profanities by reading his lips.

The Todd = Gordon Ramsey as an NFL coach.

A buddy of mine whom I used to work with said he was a ball boy on the Chiefs sideline when Gunther was HC. He said he's never heard so much cussing on a sideline or even in a sport period. Got to the point Gunther would just make up cuss words and cuss basically just to cuss.

What a mad old grunken German.

I'd rather see Haley cussing than standing there, looking at the clock, and wondering what's for lunch.

Did anybody catch Haley saying "Bullshit call" on audio? They had the boom mike on him at one point, and Haley was yelling at the ref saying it was a bullshit call. The sound guy turned the volume down pretty quick, but you could still catch it rather obviously...

Yeah, that's why I bumped this thread. Tribal Warfare made a post about it which I quoted in post 149.

Yeah, I heard that. IIRC, it was after the Wade blocking in the back penalty.

Whoops... sorry I missed that...

And yeah, you can tell that the camerafolks are already keen to Haley's mouth. They're jumping to shots of Haley the instant there's a screwup just waiting for him to provide some drama on camera. And so far, he's not letting them down.

I wonder who the first player will be to snap back at Haley and get into a shouting match on the sideline?

I wonder if the league will/can fine Haley for the "bullshit call" just because it got out over the airwaves.

Haley cracks me up.

I don't know about that. I've seen lots of instances of coaches doing the exact same thing with no consequences. I bet they could if they really wanted to, but I doubt they see it as a bad thing. Just a guess, but I'd think the league would overlook that kind of thing in favor of the "interesting drama" factor that it creates. Sound bytes like that sell....

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