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Simply Red 10-07-2009 08:12 PM

We're run by clowns.

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6149886)
Culp played football in college, and I'd imagine he probably played in high school, too.

The douche whom the Executive of the Century brought in had done neither.

Stenerud went to college on a skiing scholarship. You probably wouldn't have looked at him either. But Stram did.

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149902)
Stenerud went to college on a skiing scholarship. You probably wouldn't have looked at him either. But Stram did.

It's not uncommon for college kickers, for example, to have a soccer background and not a football one, so the above example doesn't work too well with other positions.

Talking about a lineman with no previous football experience is an entirely different animal.

dirk digler 10-07-2009 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Lemon_Pie (Post 6148921)
the dude is 23 years old, 6'6 300 pounds with the frame to add a lot of muscle and has been one of the better college heavyweight wrestlers in the past few years. It's just a look...He's never going to sign anywhere but it's not nearly the joke that some are taking it as.

I don't see the big deal either. It is not like he would be on the active roster he would be on the practice squad if that. I doubt they sign him though.

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6149905)
It's not uncommon for college kickers, for example, to have a soccer background and not a football one, so the above example doesn't work too well with other positions.

Talking about a lineman with no previous football experience is an entirely different animal.

Otis Sistrunk didn't go to college. But he played for the Raiders for 7 years. Good players are where you find them.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-07-2009 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149877)
Any of you reeruns ever heard of Curly Culp? NCAA wrestling champion. How about Goldberg? O-lineman for the Falcons.

You mean Goldberg, the guy who was a football player, then a pro wrestler?

RedThat 10-07-2009 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6149917)
You mean Goldberg, the guy who was a football player, then a pro wrestler?

Yup. He played for the falcons. I remember.

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149916)
Otis Sistrunk didn't go to college. But he played for the Raiders for 7 years. Good players are where you find them.

I have no idea who this is, but I trust you.

Here's my thought: exceptions don't prove a rule.

99/100, bringing in the wrestler is a desperation move that makes the franchise look like more of a joke. That said, I'd be happy to offer an apology and eat much crow if this ends up being a legit. 1/100 instance.

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 08:30 PM

Sistrunk also wrestled after the Raiders.

RedThat 10-07-2009 08:32 PM

I will laugh if this guy becomes a good player. I'll die of laughter. Hey with good reason. It'll be amusing. When you think of all places to find a player, a wrestler? lol

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6149921)
I have no idea who this is, but I trust you.

Here's my thought: exceptions don't prove a rule.

99/100, bringing in the wrestler is a desperation move that makes the franchise look like more of a joke. That said, I'd be happy to offer an apology and eat much crow if this ends up being a legit. 1/100 instance.

You look at it as desperation. I look at it as looking where others aren't. You won't find anything if you don't look.

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149927)
You look at it as desperation. I look at it as looking where others aren't. You won't find anything if you don't look.

Are we talking about looking for strange or NFL talent? :)

milkman 10-07-2009 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6149926)
I will laugh if this guy becomes a good player. I'll die of laughter. Hey with good reason. It'll be amusing. When you think of all places to find a player, a wrestler? lol

I'm really rooting for him now!




jk

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6149931)
Are we talking about looking for strange or NFL talent? :)

Either one. Stenerud's ball flew through the air sideways. Nobody thought that would ever work.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-07-2009 08:37 PM

I just find it odd that the Chiefs are so willing to scour the microscopic fissures of New England's taint for traces of dingleberries, yet when legitimate prospects who actually have football experience, size, and talent are available, they are completely ignored.

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6149941)
I just find it odd that the Chiefs are so willing to scour the microscopic fissures of New England's taint for traces of dingleberries, yet when legitimate prospects who actually have football experience, size, and talent are available, they are completely ignored.

The Dogg Pound once waxed philosophical about the bomb azz taint...the Pioli theme song.

Simply Red 10-07-2009 08:43 PM

I somewhat agree w/ you, Skip. I think that OFTEN the listed examples were merely complete isolated, accidental finds, i don't think REACHING for that kind of luck is the best approach. But then again, I'm no Pioli

dirk digler 10-07-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6149941)
I just find it odd that the Chiefs are so willing to scour the microscopic fissures of New England's taint for traces of dingleberries, yet when legitimate prospects who actually have football experience, size, and talent are available, they are completely ignored.

How do you know they are ignored?

Skip Towne 10-07-2009 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 6149954)
I somewhat agree w/ you, Skip. I think that OFTEN the listed examples were merely complete isolated, accidental finds, i don't think REACHING for that kind of luck is the best approach. But then again, I'm no Pioli

I like that he looks in obscure places. Anything he finds comes free. No draft choces spent.

Simply Red 10-07-2009 08:48 PM

the word 'taint' really upsets my stomach, 'Hamas.'

DeezNutz 10-07-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6149957)
How do you know they are ignored?

True. They might not be the "right 53".

Or whatever piece of obtuse rhetoric the Executive of the Millennium is using...

That wrastler might be the best prospect that wants to play for that them Texans.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-07-2009 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6149957)
How do you know they are ignored?

:spock:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NFL_Draft

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-07-2009 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149961)
I like that he looks in obscure places. Anything he finds comes free. No draft choces spent.

See: Alleman, Andy; Ndukwe, Ike.

dirk digler 10-07-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6149964)
True. They might not be the "right 53".

Is the "right 53" the new 5-year plan?

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6149965)

I assumed you were talking about since training camp or the season started not the draft.

We all agree for the most part they should have drafted alot of O-line in the draft.

Simply Red 10-07-2009 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne (Post 6149961)
I like that he looks in obscure places. Anything he finds comes free. No draft choces spent.

I think that there is a lot of truth in that, and reading it (initially) people saw the word 'wrestler' and just laughed and were quick to ridicule. I guess it's like anything else, there really is talent on the street. Give me a month, i'd bet i could win some nine-ball national tournaments ... or if I owned a pool table. My point is, some people w/ a yr. of coaching and additional training are really 'that close' and JUST that athletic.

so, I see what you're saying.

Oxford 10-07-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by raybec 4 (Post 6148206)
That's my point, why bother with him right now? who's spot would he take if we signed him? Shouldn't we be trying to figure out how to spend the number one pick in 2010?

We will trade down with our number one for a late round 1 and a 2nd round in 2011

Easy 6 10-07-2009 08:58 PM

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BigMeatballDave 10-07-2009 09:03 PM

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-07-2009 09:04 PM

SHOVE THAT PLANE INTO A NOSE DIVE.....HULK....HO-GAN

boogblaster 10-07-2009 09:10 PM

WWFENFLSOL ... or whatever you want to call it ...

Easy 6 10-07-2009 09:12 PM

Can you IMAGINE Warrior at RT?

Offense solved.

'Hamas' Jenkins 10-07-2009 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 6150022)
Can you IMAGINE Warrior at RT?

Offense solved.

Pfff...Warrior got blown up way too easy. If you wanted a solution at RT, look at Akeem or Big John Studd.

Easy 6 10-07-2009 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6150043)
Pfff...Warrior got blown up way too easy. If you wanted a solution at RT, look at Akeem or Big John Studd.

If you want to go that route, i'll see that & raise you a King Kong Brody...a RT prospect just one evolutionary peg above an animal.

But, Kong is getting old & will want too much 'Past Glory' pay...Warrior FTW.

TrickyNicky 10-08-2009 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6150043)
Pfff...Warrior got blown up way too easy. If you wanted a solution at RT, look at Akeem or Big John Studd.

RT
http://www.accelerator3359.com/Wrest...ures/akeem.jpg

Center
http://www.411mania.com/siteimages/s...ster_28000.jpg

JohnnyV13 10-08-2009 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 6148102)
I wonder if he'll hit a DE with a folding chair.

I think they mean a college wrestler, which is far different than the joke wrestlers that are in the WWE.

I think the steelers had a lineman in the early 90s, that was an All American wrestler with no football experience. That guy ended up going to a couple of pro bowls before he became a drug user.

KCChiefsMan 10-08-2009 03:48 AM

Didn't The Rock play for the Falcons back in the day?

Kerberos 10-08-2009 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by wild1 (Post 6148314)
Brock Lesnar FTW

Minnesota....Training Camp with Dick Vermeil.....Lesnar was with the Vikes for a tryout.... Vikes and Chiefs had a scrimmage....Lesnar tries to impress and pounds Trent Green to the ground....Dick has a conniption...... That is what I remember about the Lesnar debacle.

007 10-08-2009 05:20 AM

Hell just bring in Lesnar then. We all know how well he worked out.

PhillyChiefFan 10-08-2009 05:33 AM

I'm sure he has excellent footwork...

JohninGpt 10-08-2009 06:05 AM

Maybe we should bring in a few of these guys.

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Mecca 10-08-2009 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan (Post 6150630)
Didn't The Rock play for the Falcons back in the day?

That was Goldberg.......The Rock played for The U though.

Quesadilla Joe 10-08-2009 07:21 AM

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San Diego shake-up could be coming


The recent comments from Chargers G.M. A.J. Smith regarding the performance of the team he built weren't merely idle chatter.

Smith and the coaching staff apparently are serious about taking action on the fly to fix the problems that have plagued the team.

According to the San Diego Union-Tribune, Smith is "spending time on the phone" with other teams, possibly in the hopes of swinging one or more trades before the October 20 deadline. (And given linebacker Shawne Merriman's comments from Wednesday, his contract status, and the general vibrations coming from the organization suggesting that he won't be part of the team's future, Merriman possibly could be on the block.)

The Union-Tribune also reports that there's a feeling within the locker room that defensive jobs are "up for grabs." Defensive coordinator Ron Rivera reportedly sent that message to his troops earlier this week.

"I think it was the best thing for our defense," cornerback Quentin Jammer told the Union-Tribune. "You get your [rear end] run through like that, it puts everything in perspective, and I think we'll be better for it. There is going to be changes. You change the way you approach things, change the way you do things. I think it was the best wake-up call for us."

It remains to be seen whether the changes result in any changes in the on-field product when the Chargers return to action on October 19, with a Monday night visit from the Broncos.
Would Chiefs fans want to trade for Merroid?

Hammock Parties 10-08-2009 07:28 AM

Merriman has been about as effective as Mike Vrabel this year.

Dave Lane 10-08-2009 07:32 AM

So last week everyone was screaming cuz "the regime never tries to address the OL" this week they are leaving no stone unturned and making us look stupid.

Please pick one and stick with it. You will look much less foolish.

Beef Eater 10-08-2009 09:54 AM

Why Not?
 
It never hurts to bring in players for a tryout. Especially considering how pathetic the Chiefs OL has played this year. According to an article in the Boston Globe, Jermail Porter was a NCAA All American wrestler at Kent State. The Pats signed him as an undrafted free agent the first of May of this year but apparently got hurt and consequently released. Although he doesn’t have ANY football experience, he does have prototypical size for an NFL OL at 6’-5” and 310 Lbs. The fact that he is finished sixth in the heavyweight class at the 2009 NCAA Championships indicates to me that he probably has good balance, a strong upper body, and understands the importance of leverage. The Pats did have success with RG Stephen Neal, a two-time NCAA wrestling champion and the 1999 heavyweight freestyle world champion who didn't play a down of college football. It might not turn out to be anything, but I like the fact that Pioli is keeping an open mind to possibilities and is at least trying to improve the Chiefs roster. The Chiefs need to upgrade at a number of positions and OL is probably the most glaring need. Since there are not a lot of good, healthy FA OL available, why not look at Porter?

Noss 10-08-2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6148079)
So basically he's only getting looked at because the Patriots looked at him.

Yep! :doh!:

Imon Yourside 10-08-2009 02:16 PM

I like this idea, they should be looking under every rock for guys that can perform. I don't care if they find someone at a ballet if they can play sign em' up.

Thig Lyfe 10-08-2009 03:16 PM

Bring in Usain Bolt for a look!

milkman 10-08-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 6151906)
I like this idea, they should be looking under every rock for guys that can perform. I don't care if they find someone at a ballet if they can play sign em' up.

Yeah, it's great idea.

But it would have been a helluva lot better idea to look on top of the rocks during the offseason.


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