It might be time for everyone to stop thinking that they suck...they clearly do not suck...and McKid won the team over...they are going to go 11-5 or 12-4 and win the division.

:cuss: Damn you and your attempt to inflict voodoo-mojo...

Actually, I predict they go 19-0 and finish what the Pats couldn't. :D

Well, at some point, it doesn't matter how "truly good" or "average" they are. Wins are wins.

Their remaining games:

at San Diego
at Baltimore
Pittsburgh
at Washington
San Diego
New York Giants
at KC
at Indy
Oakland
at Philly
KC

Even if they choke big-time, there are very probable wins there against the Redskins, KC (at least in Denver), and Oakland. So even if they totally shit their pants against the Chargers (twice), Chiefs in Arrowhead, Ravens, Steelers, Giants, Colts, and Eagles, they could go 3-8 and STILL be a .500 team. Of that bunch I mentioned, they only need 2 wins--that is, they only need to go 5-6 in the rest of the year--to finish at 10-6, which might be good enough to win the division.

They are playing very well this season. The Cincy win was a fluke, but they have earned the rest of those wins.

I hear ya... my preseason prediction was 5, maybe 6 wins - I've been happily surprised.

I have 3 bolds above, these are games I fully expect Denver to win, taking them to 8 wins.

I have 2 in blue, these are games that I think Denver should and very well oculd win... that would be 10 wins.

In order to be viewed as GREAT and a serious playoff contender, they need to win 4 of those 5 games, minimum and steal another one... like @ SD or when the Giants come to town.

Cincy beat the Ravens and Steelers... it's not impossible to think Denver could challenge either, especially the games in Denver.

We'll see.

I get why people say it was a fluke... yes, the tip drill was very much an incredible and lucky play. But, Denver held them to 0 for 59 minutes of that game... Cincy got lucky on that final drive and scored. It's not like Denver was trailing until that final tipped ball.

Lucky play? Yes.
Lucy win? No.

I agree and I said they are playing well this season. I guess I should have said lucky play. Cincy is for real and they did hold Palmer and company in check.

2003 Chiefs rode on the back on Dante Hall
Plummer turned back into Plummer

Thanks for the history refresher...

You have a nice advantage?

Ok. Last season your magic number WAS ONE GAME. ONE FLIPPING GAME with more than a quarter of the season left. Feel good about your advantage after 5 games.

Stop worrying about last season... that Denver team isn't around any longer.

I was already awaiting this response.

I will let the season play out before I start jumping for joy after week 5.

Thanks for the tip...

You're welcome son

“Respect is not given, it is earned, doggone it!” Dawkins yelled in the pregame huddle and he bounced from side to side, watching his teammates’ reactions. “And they don’t respect us! Nobody respects us! You know what you’ve got to do in that situation?”

At that point, Dawkins’ voice became nearly demonic.

“Take it! Take it! Take the respect from somebody!” Dawkins said, hitting himself in the helmet and pacing about like he wanted to jump out of his skin. “Take it!”

We earned the Cincy win as well. That's 5 wins they have earned.

with NYG/Philly ahead...

Just wanted to revisit this thread here on the 2nd to last week of the season. I guess I wasn't too far off.

What was it you were saying????????

I guess yesterday the Raiders saw this on film, and stole it for their pregame warm up.

You are such a homer dope.

It is what it is... Denver wasn't expected to win more than 7 games by most, they've been at 8 wins and screwed around with games vs the Skins and Raiders. But, that happens with teams that aren't 100% where they need to be. All that being said though, this team could still win @ PHI and they should beat KC in Denver.

They're not a team that will make much noise at all in the playoffs, but they've surpassed my expectations and are playing sporadically lately... which is somewhat expected. I didn't get to watch the game yesterday (I was sick), but I was catching the highlights... unreal how they fell apart at the end and couldn't stop the rush.

They're still set up well as the #6 seed...

No no no no. You said this team was NOT the team from last year. You know, the team that squandered a 3 game division lead. THAT TEAM! But wait! THEY ARE!

Denver was never as good as their 6-0 start. Fluke hail mary plays and multiple punt returns for TD's? You can't live on that stuff for very long. This Dungver team will be nothing more than someones bye week for the playoffs if they even get in.

Clearly Know-ho took TAKE IT way to seriously yesterday!ROFL

So I guess now they're not who they thought they were?ROFL

And, while they should not have lost that game vs OAK... they did. There are 2 games left. I think they'll still advance... if they do, then I was correct.

You want to discount the tip pass and return scores - but, you can't. Those are part of the game. And, I agree that if they advance... they'll have a monumental challenge of winning on the road with the way they've been playing.

I think they still beat KC and they have a good shot of beating PHI. Anything can happen.

Still missing the point. Those lucky bounces covered up a lot of holes in that team because their margin for error in a win is so small. So things like punt returns for TD's and fluke tipped passes do matter. Generally the teams that are legit good will catch a break here and there, but play at a high level consistently for most of the year. Denver is not one of those teams. So yeah, the ARE the same team as last year. And you said they were gone.

They should beat KC, but PHI, not so much. One W one L in the next two games, bank on it.

Sorry, but you don't get to 6-0 on just a bunch of luck bounces and moments in games. They played well in that stretch, lost some bad games during their 0-4 stretch... and have gone on 2 game wins and 2 game losses since. They're not an elite team, I never said they were.

They're in a similar situation as last year, but the team is different - it's a better all around team. I figured they would have played like this earlier in the season than later... but, it didn't happen that way.

Very well could turn out that way... depends on which team shows up @ Philly. Will it be the team that dominated the Giants and defeated the likes of the Patriots, Chargers and Cowboys? If it's the team that played yesterday, they're in for a long day.

That's the thing though with teams like Denver... they don't play with consistency week to week, so anything can happen.

Who knew the Panthers would destroy the Vikings? Nothing is a given.

Well somewhere on this thread I said that they would not make the playoffs when they were 5-0. Got chastized by a few Orange and Blue lovers when they were 6-0, but said it again then too. Well...:doh!:

I just saw the highlights of that final OAK drive... dunno if I agree with the PI call, but I didn't see it replayed over and over. They brought the pressure, they just didn't get the job done.

No it's not better. If it were better then the record wouldn't be looking similar, and you wouldn't have lost a 3 game division lead. A "better" team doesn't repeat the same **** ups as last years team. Understand?

Just like the Chiefs 13-3 seasons?????ROFLROFLROFL

I'd say yes for that 95 season, very much so. The 97 season? Nope. That team played unreal defense. The 03 Chiefs? Nope. Scored points like they were going out of style.

either way, it's a silly comparison because the donkeys aren't going to sniff 13-3 are they?

Ohhh, ok. Losing a 3 game divisional lead after 6 weeks is a bit different than losing one after 13 weeks as they did last year. Denver was 8-8 last year and definitely screwed up huge by losing 3 down the stretch.

This Denver team is different and if you can't see that, it's no big deal to me. The results could be the same, but it doesn't mean the teams are the same.

I'm still less than impressed with McD's ability to put together a game plan that utilizes all their weapons.... some will put it all on Orton and that's fine, I don't think it's all on him at all. The defense put on a run last week vs Indy that gave them a chance to take advantage and I just didn't see the creativity.

Again, I wasn't able to watch the game yesterday, so I don't know how the offense looked... but, they settled for way too many FGs. That part is similar to last year.

We'll see how the next two games go.

Correct, 13 wins is not an option. But, how many points were put up by Hall? I guess that KC really should have won yesterday, I mean 203 yards on two returns for TDs? That shouldn't count... KC was just so unlucky.

For eveyone posting on this thread....right now would you rather have Todd Haley or Josh McDaniels as your head coach?

The only things separating the Chiefs and Broncos are 5 more wins for the Broncos and that the Broncos have won as many games at Arrowhead as the Chiefs this season.

FYI...both teams lost at home to the Raiders. Don't act too proud Chiefs fans.

And yes I am a Chiefs fan.

But they still have a chance to go farther in the playoffs then anyone of the 13-3 Chiefs teams.

Nah. They will choke like crack whores in the back seat no matter who they play in the playoffs.If they get there.Philly will smash them by 30 points.

30 points, really? Bold statement since they haven't beaten any team by 30 all year (unless I misread a game). The Eagles also lost to the Raiders (only scored 9) and they needed 10 points late to beat the Skins - sounds familiar.

The Eagles have a damn fine team... it's a tall order for Denver, but it's not impossible.

denver has a chance if they can stop desean

Yeah, the guy is amazing... I think Dawkins plays with huge emotion this week.

Ok probably not but this shit piling on the Donkholes is the only way I can feel better bout how bad the Chiefs suck.

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