Anyone who says that has obviously never played the game and, therefore, has a moot opinion.

I'd be willing to bet that if you started a poll asking why Americans don't like soccer, and included "it's not a full-contact sport," that reason would rank behind "hooliganism," "blatant acting on fouls" and "90% of play is between the boxes."

I don't like it because it's boring, tedious and there's almost no scoring. If all these ****ing punks were watching an exciting game instead of this crap, perhaps they'd get all that energy out of their systems DURING THE GAME and wouldn't feel the need to destroy the stadium and surrounding neighborhood afterward.

Possibly. But, I'd be willing to be that 90% of the play in football is between the end zones, too.

So, you find a 10-7 football game as equally boring?

Blatant acting on fouls is annoying, I agree, but it's something fairly new to the game and isn't done by everyone. As far as the other two? Hooliganism is irrelevant, it has nothing to do with the game itself and "90% of play is between the boxes" is HIGHLY dependent on 17 different factors. Even if that was a fact 100% of the time though, there still would be nothing wrong with that. It's definitely not catered to people with ADD, I'll say that much.

At least a 10-7 game should feature some hard hits and good defense.

And a 1-1 soccer tie would also feature some very good defense. Like I said, when pressed, most Americans will acknowledge it's about the contact. Would you still watch the NFL if it was no-contact/flag?

One of the interesting dynamics of soccer is that the offense and defense is on the field at the same time, of course.

I think the problem here is that there's no blatant progress and there's a constant flow of back and forth (whether it's 50-50 for both teams or 80-20 with one team dominating). American football provides clear goals which are to be reached in a set amount of tries. It also provides people with constant breaks so they can reset their attention spans.

So, you are saying that Americans don't like soccer because they have limited attention spans?

So, if you think soccer is boring, and looks like a disorganized free for all, that person has ADD?

I'm saying it's a factor for some. I know it is for me. I can't just sit down and watch, say, Brazilian league soccer - I get bored a lot more easily because I don't know any of the players or the teams.

I wouldn't say that. But, mostly likely, a person who has such an opinion is not aware of the rules of the game, let alone the dynamics of it.

No, thinking something is boring is totally subjective. Seeing a disorganized free for all just means you have no idea what's going on.

Eh, the only sports I truly care to watch are football and college basketball. Soccer and ice-soccer(hockey) just don't captivate me; and never probably will. Not to say soccer players aren't tremendous athletes, I just can't appreciate the offensive dynamic of the game.

Do you have an average-sized penis?

I have played in my life in competitive sports, Football, Baseball, Soccer, Basketball and even Bowling. Soccer is the least difficult of all the sports I mentioned. As well as most boring to play, hence the reason I quit playing and never got into watching. Its a freaking track meet with a ball. Hockey, they score ALOT more goals then soccer and the goal is one tenth the size. Why, you ask? Cause Hockey players are talented. They don't just run and kick a ball. Soccer is the Nascar of team sports. Right foot down, turn left.

Would you like me to e-mail you pictures?

When did baseball become a contact sport?

Most Americans that I know, agree with Frazod. Its boring, tedius and no one EVER scores. Has nothing to do with the contact sport. There is contact in Soccer just as much so as basketball.

I can tell from this post that you have never played competitive soccer. Playing during gym in junior high doesn't really count, bro.

I've played football before too! And it was a lot easier than soccer for me, because running and catching the ball is a shit ton easier than controlling a ball with my feet and placing it where I want it to go when I pass it.

LMAO

Huh?

I can not argue with that, especially since I feel the same way about hockey.

Did you know, they have penalties for hitting that little black puck to far?ROFL

Not sure if it has been said or not but most people are not even aware of how much actual contact there is in the game. And in an upper level match there is a lot of contact.

Yeah, but they don't fall down a lot. Maybe that's more accurate.

I have in fact played a COMPETETIVE LEAGUE of soccer when I was younger. You not having foot eye coordination doesn't make it a tougher sport. If you get into accidents all the time driving, because of your lack of ability to drive, does it make it a tougher form of travel over flying? No, I would say flying is more difficult. Hence the reason any idiot gets their drivers licensce.

You said Americans don't like Soccer because its not a contact sport. Baseball is not a contact sport. Yet its Americas pasttime.

My eye-foot coordination is fine, thanks. You saying soccer is a track meet told me everything I need to know, dude.

I'm not sure why it is "America's Pastime" or who declared it as such. Some clever marketer, I'd imagine.

But, let me ask you this: would you be just as rabid a football fan if there were not any contact?

Unfortunately it is getting to that on the offensive side of the ball. And if you think about it now WR are calling for a flag on every missed pass, it is a lot like taking a dive in soccer.

I spent a good portion of my childhood in Spain, so I have an inherent appreciation for fútbol that stems from both watching and playing the sport. I developed finesse, quickness, and endurance that would help out immensely when it came to playing other sports later on in life.

American football, however, is nearest and dearest to my heart. I played in high school and there's nothing quite like strapping on the pads, lowering your shoulder, and legally hitting another human being as hard as you can. :evil:

Yes. I love everything about football. Playing it, watching it. Without contact it would still take extreme amounts of talent to play. Would I like it as much as I do now? Probably not. But everyone likes seeing the big hits.

That you have no logical reason as to how a soccer player is more talented then a football player. Just because you say so. We should take your word for it. "They have to put a spin on a ball." So do football players. "They have to run and kick at the same time." Uhh. So do football players. They have to not touch it with their hands? Ok, so? Football players have to be good with their hands too.

Okay, then your answer cannot be "Yes."

Up until the late 80s early 90s baseball was by far the most popular sport in America. And had been since the 1800s. At least of the 4 major team sports. Constant strikes has bittered the country to it and in slipped the NFL to pick up where baseball left off.

You asked basically if I would still love the sport of football. The answer would in fact be yes. I will play 2 hand touch just as quick as I will tackle. Playing it is fun. Kicking a freaking ball around is not.

that's awesome.
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clear, and to the point. May I use this as my answer when people ask me in real life if I like soccer?

No, I didn't. I asked if you be just as rabid a fan. You stated "yes," and then went on to acknowledge that you wouldn't enjoy it as much.

Would you like soccer just as much if there wasn't a ball? Being a rabid fan describes my love for it. I would still be cheering the Chiefs on yelling in screaming at the TV when they played. Therefore yes. Would I like it as much. Of course not.

I don't like soccer.

When did I ever say soccer takes more talent, you nincompoop? I was saying the opposite about ALL sports, even NASCAR, which takes more driving skills, better reaction time and extreme physical condition that you can even start to comprehend. What I WAS saying is that soccer takes enormous amount of talent and skill while you were saying it's a track meet because all it involves is running.

Zack did and you jumped on the bandwagon talking crap to me when I was arguing with him that they didn't. Im saying its a track meet, you idiot, because all they do is run and kick the F***ING ball. What else do they do? Nothing. Their sole purpose in the game is to run to the ball and kick it. They don't have to catch. They don't have to throw. Its not difficult to kick a freakin ball. Thats why when youre 3 they start you out with KICKBALL. Its essentially soccer with baseball rules. Kids aren't good enough to hit a small ball so they make it easier for them.

So if your argument is, professional soccer players are better at kicking the ball then I would suspect that you are right. Talented at kicking the ball. Sure. Have a lot of stamina. Most definately. Extremely talented athletes? Not so much.

Of course it's easy to kick a ball, just like it's easy to throw a baseball or a rock. Kicking it with skill requires a lot more than catching a f***ing football OR anything for that matter, though. Controlling the ball on the run takes a lot more skill than running with a football in your hands. Receiving a cross and not letting the ball bounce off you BUT controlling it instead takes a lot more skill than running into a running back to bring him down. Am I saying that pro football players are not freaks of nature? No, because they most definitely are. But you saying "ALL IT TAKES IS RUNNING AND KICKING THE BALL" when you talk about soccer, makes you sound quite reeruned to be honest with you.

And comapring kick ball to soccer is just... I'm mean serioulsy, we're done.

Youre joking right? They drive in a freakin circle. If there is an accident they do caution laps. Drive in Southern California. It may not be as fast but you need quick reaction times to avoid the millions of idiots on the road who shouldn't even have their license. If you were to say INDY car or Formula one. I would have agreed with you. But NASCAR? ROFL

Do you really want to go into this? Formula 1 drivers are the most skilled drivers in the world, yes. But saying NASCAR takes no skill is utterly stupid. Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR, I want to see you take any NASCAR turn at 195mph, lol. Actually, scratch that, you're stupid, but I don't wish death upon you.

Youre an idiot of epic proportion. Soccer may have been hard for you. But most naturally talented people who play multiple sports would argue with you. I have played every sport. Most of them in a competitive league. Others recreationally and find soccer not only boring. But not that difficult. Hitting a ball 3 inches or so in diameter coming at you at 100 mph=To kicking a ball thats a foot in diameter IYO? Youre a fucktard

Formula 1 never reaches the speeds of NASCAR. Nascar averages 160 around those turns you are talking about and get up to 195 on the straightaways. Formula 1 is routinely over 200 mph on street courses. Youre so stupid youre probably doing a guy and believing him when he tells you its not ghey.

I just think you have a misconception of what's considered being "good" at soccer. But yeah, I agree, it's a lot harder to hit 95mph ball with a bat than anything in soccer, no argument there. But I was talking more about football to you, though.

What I am gathering from you is that anything you can't do, or have trouble doing, other people that do it are talented. I don't believe that to be the case. I can't eat 40 hot dogs in one sitting. But I don't believe the person who can, does so because of talent. In NASCAR they drive fast, but they do so in a circle. No more talent involved then what anyone of us have. Just most of us don't have the money to put together a pit crew and expensive car and do it. Or the desire to do so.

Yes, they do. And they out-turn and out-brake them, too.

I just watched the Japanese Gran Prix on SPEED a few weeks ago and they hit something like 310kph on that straight, which is what, something like 190mph? The non-hairpin turns were like around 140-180kph. Obviously F1 cars are much faster and designed specifically for turning, but NASCAR is constantly faster - the drivers don't experience as many G's, but they ARE always going crazy fast and then there are the walls they have to deal with...

Haha, I can probably do some things with a soccer ball you didn't think were possible, but I'm by no means gifted - otherwise I'd be playing pro soccer, wouldn't I?

Oh and why don't you grab a soccer ball and try to do this:

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You probably think that's easy to do, don't you? ROFL

Yes, they go around is ovals really quickly. F1 cars are capable of well over 200mph, but most tracks don't permit it.

And, if you want to see walls, please take a peek at the Monaco GP:

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Decision - Donger

Well I guess its your lucky Day!

Since Soccer is so easy you should have no problem signing a Multi-million dollar contract with one of the teams in the English premier league.

Here are some of the salaries of the premier league players. Lucky for you the owners of these teams are not as smart as you, and have not figured out that Soccer is so easy!

These are yearly numbers BTW:

Rank Name Team Pay
1. David Beckham Real Madrid $37.4 million
2. Ronaldo Real Madrid $25.3
3. Zinedine Zidane Real Madrid 16.8
4. Christian Vieiri Inter Milan $15.5
5. Alessandro Del Piero Juventus $12.3
6. Frank Lampard Chelsea $12.1
7. Raul Gonzalez Real Madrid $12
8. Thierry Henry Arsenal $11.9
9. John Terry Chelsea $11.1
10. Luis Figo Real Madrid $11.0
11. Ruud van Nistelrooy Manchester United $10.9
12. Ronaldinho Barcelona $10.6
13. Oliver Kahn Bayern Munich $10.4
14. Roy Keane Manchester United $10.2
15. Patrick Vieira Arsenal $10.1
16. Michael Owen Real Madrid $9.7
17. Francesco Totti AS Roma $9.6
18. Sol Campbell Arsenal $9.4
19. Michael Ballack Bayern Munich $8.8
20. Rio Ferdinand Manchester United $8.3


I highly recommend that you play a couple of years in the premier league and make 3 to 5 million pounds a year ($6-$10 million per year) not including endorsements, it is a really smart thing to do, and it doesn't require any special skills:



Back to reality.............


I can hit a baseball even if it is only 3 inches wide, you can kick a soccer ball as well but neither of us can compete against the skilled athletes in their sport.

kicking a soccer ball from a standstill is easy, but try to kick a ball that is crossed to you at up to 60 mph while you are running at a full sprint, and being shoved by an equally fast defender, and then remember you have to place your shot to beat the goalie, you cant just hit it anywhere- - good luck with that!

Here's the issue:

I think most Americans see soccer as MLS. Eurosoccer is a different beast altogether as I learned during the 06 World Cup in Italy - yes they year they won. It's just totally different.

Beforehand, I hated - no, loathed - soccer. Couldn't understand why you'd want to watch or play such a "sport". Not so anymore.


I'm with Zach. And, yes, for those wondering, a big reason soccer isn't big over here is because of the attention span of Americans. Sorry, but true.

It would be incredible if the US was a soccer nation...so many cities to have teams and a lot of diversity amongst people. It's great over in Europe..the system is so well interwoven, kids begin playing for their hometown clubs against neighboring towns and villages since they are all so close together. Netherlands, which is a tenth the size of California, pumps out tenfolds more world class talented players than Russia, twice the size of USA. Now that's a dedicated soccer nation.

Yeah, the Dutch are definitely my favorite. They always have insane talent to the point of being filthy, but they're the biggest effing chokers in the world and it pisses me off.

And you bring up a very valid point, the U.S. produces the best athletes in the world but it won't reach the skill levels of European/South American teams due to the complete lack of youth academies. By the time some kid is in college, he'd have reached his plateau of skill gaining ability. European clubs, on the other hand, get their hands on promising little kids pretty much as soon at they learn how to run, lol.

Soccer is AWESOME... because of soccer moms. I think Guru might be gay.

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thats pretty crappy.....

LOL at soccer guy who thinks showing video clips helps his case when in fact they further illustrate the point that soccer is lame. Do you really think that silly little trick is impressive in an athletic sense? It looks like part of a half-time show. What's next? Is he going to junp off a mini-tramp for a 720 degree slam dunk?

2006 World Cup was in Germany. Italy did win it though. ;)

Sorry. I meant I was in Italy at the time it was being played. Poorly worded.