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Al Davis. Clark is 31, at worst.

EDIT: And I know he brought the Raiders a Super Bowl appearance this decade. But, I'm talking about this very instant in time. Davis is worse than Clark. Not saying Clark is awesome, but at least he's not Davis.

I was the same way with Herm, if you remember.

There's always a "no mas" point. Where it comes abundantly clear that there's no future.

Actually, it was kind of like losing weight or quitting the Jehovah's Witnesses. One day I just snapped, in both instances. I remember I was assigned a public talk and I decided to just throw the assignment slip away and "forget" about it. From that point forward I did not give a rat's ****ing ass about Jehovah or any of his bullshit.

And now I don't care about Larry or any of his bullshit.

Hey, I'm happy for you. I don't see how anyone could apologize for LJ at this point. There's simply no excuse left.

LJ needs to go. Good article GoChiefs....your writing is improving.

he doesn't deserve the Chiefs running title. bench him for conduct.

It's done. Bravo.

So how does this play out with you and Buck?

LT has ligaments and bones last time I checked. They can be busted.

LMAO

I didn't exactly, have your man crush for Larry but I thought he had potential and I, as well, overlooked the prior things he did. But like you, I am now done with all the bull shit. I don't want him to have the record, and I hope he never plays another down in any jersey. Hes a douchebag thats never gonna change.

LJ should be gone. The bad outweighs any good, or even potential for good at this point. Send his ass packing, and make his lawyers argue his case for any remaining pay.

Am I the only one who read the title, "Haley Should Cut Johnson", and thought this?

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Little late.

Well, yeah. Dude's 30. :shrug:

the only reason he would make these comments would be to get himself out of KC. he wants out so he knows all he has to do is start yapping about the new regime. this was well thought out and he will probably get his way.

we need to figure out a way to suspend him without pay and restrict him from signing with another team. pioli is not going to be tested by a woman beating loud mouth punk like L.J. But the truth is a lot of the players in the locker room are going to look at this situation in the future as to how pioli/haley handle things so they need to make an example out of this chump.

So Clark,Pioli and Haley are all "Busts" after 6 months?

Clark's been in charge for years.

Pioli and Haley have been in charge since February, which is not six months.

I think it's safe to say that since none of their draft picks have improved the team or proven to be game changing playmakers and the fact that the Chiefs are 1-6, I'd think it's safe to label them "busts" to this point.

So far, they're the polar opposite of their counterparts in Denver.

Run him till his asshole is sucking butter milk!

God damn you are stupid. You can not compare this team to Denver. Denver had a good team in place already. They had above average players on offense and defense. KC had nothing.

You can not label the draft picks as busts after only playing 7 games. Especially when the #1 was a D-lineman.

Ryan Succop hasn't improved the team, Dane?

i hope when they do cut him they announce it via twitter

@ToonIcon - U no longr cakn, patna

LMAO

It's only fair since Gunther got an email

They should have shit canned Jimmy Johnson and company in Dallas after their first year too, they went 1-15 in 89' after going 3-13 the year before like a bunch of clowns. They obviously did irreparable damage by not immediately getting better.

Bill Walsh went 2-14 his first year after taking over the 49'ers. They went 5-11 the second year. What a joke.

Obviously if you don't make immediate improvement you are a bust.

So, you're comparing Haley to Bill Walsh & Jimmy Johnson?

Seriously?

Let me get this straight: You feel that Bill Walsh and Jimmy Johnson's coaching pedigree was the same as Todd Haley's?


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See this is your problem, you fail to understand simple points. I was simply stating that teams can go backwards before going forward and it is not an overnight task with this much work to do. Surly you can get that? You can understand that you would rather just be a dick which unlike giving decent arguments regarding the point at hand, you are good at.

I never said Haley was JJ or BW, but was countering your ****ing reeruned statement about calling them a bust after 7 games.

Do you really think people thought Dallas was getting better the 89' season? They were getting ripped by everybody in the media. Thank God there weren't message boards back then. Oh yea, they wouldn't have given shit just like I am sure Pioli and Clark could give a **** less what DaneMcCloud football message board genius thinks.

You are a hopeless dickhead.

:spock: JFC Claythan, SAUTO could draft a ****ing kicker.:shake:

No, you're just a ****ing moron.

Bill Walsh coached under the legendary Paul Brown. He coached at Stanford. He actually had a track record before Eddie DeBartolo hired him.

Jimmy Johnson was successful at Oklahoma State and even more so at the University of Miami. He actually had a track record before Jerry Jones hired him.

Neither men were in danger of losing their jobs or their teams, regardless of their poor first seasons because the players knew of their histories. They knew that they could believe in them and their vision.

Todd Haley has been a WR's coach for the majority of his career. He didn't coach high school and he didn't coach in college. He wasn't a head coach at any level, anywhere, before being hired by the Chiefs.

Comparing Haley to two Hall of Fame Coaches is tenuous at best and ****ing stupid at worst.

Oh, and no one gives a **** about you or your worthless opinion, Asswipe.

Let me get this straight, the Haley, Pioli and Clark are complete **** ups?

Maybe LJ gone by the end of the week? Don't know how reliable this source is but....

http://football.realgm.com/src_wiret...larry_johnson/

Jeff Risdon/RealGM - The Kansas City Chiefs will sever ties with problematic running back Larry Johnson, according to a team source that spoke to RealGM's Jeff Risdon on Tuesday afternoon.

The league and the team are investigating a pair of recent incidents, including one where Johnson used a gay slur. This is not the first time Johnson has gotten himself in trouble by using a gay slur, having had to apologize for the same offense last season. He was forced to apologize for this, as well as for negative comments directed at head coach Todd Haley. Haley has thus far refused comment.

The team has barred Johnson from any contact with the team.

This is a precursory move before the team formally releases Johnson before the end of the week, according to the source.

Part of the delay in releasing him involves going through the NFL’s disciplinary investigation, but the source was adamant that Larry Johnson has played his last game in Kansas City

You really didn't use integrity and reference to GOQUEER did you? That guy should make fat people flip flops for as much as he does it.

GoChiefs is our little soft bitch... Our own personal disfunctional Mangini....

We tolerate him and his 4 year old temper tantrums........

So far his Death Cockholster is taking down another one of the Chiefs players....

Who knows whos next....

You're right, 8 months. Christ. Who wouldn't have had this team 7-0 by now? These guys are turds.

**** off, Dummy.

How has this team improved?

20+ new players. 7 draft choices. 1-6.

Tell us.

Or just SHUT THE **** UP!

I know... it was a nice attempt by this current admin but I say lets tear the ****er down and start the rebuild over again :shake:

kb_kcstar Considering everything I've heard, and mixing in some logic gathered from the team's "investigation," I don't think LJ will be cut this wk.half a minute ago from web

The day Clark Hunt signs puts Mayflower Moving Company on retainer and forces Kansas City to play rent-a-team with LA every decade he can be considered in the same breath as Al Davis.

Until such a time, and for that reason alone, no team in the history or future of the NFL will ever have a worse owner than Al Davis.

You should really contain yourself to DC, Dumb****.

The Raiders have won three Super Bowls and appeared in a fourth since the Chiefs have won ONE.

JFC.

Are you really this stupid?

Outstanding.

**** you.

You're "point" is to quote me?

First off, dumbass, I didn't want Pioli to be the GM. I wanted Eric Decosta of the Ravens.

Secondly, I've ****ing grilled every move Pioli has made because quite frankly, they've all ****ing SUCKED ASS, from Cassel to Tyson Jackson to Donald Washington.

So why don't you enlighten us with YOUR football knowledge. okay?

I'm waiting.

You ****ing tool.

I'll take a 100 years of no championships over a lifetime of franchise whack-a-mole.

Huh?

You've already had 40 years without a championship.

Obviously, you don't really give a **** about the Chiefs.

Chill out dane. ****.

I'll take an owner who's failed to deliver on a Championship over the last 40 years ala KC.... over an owner who rips out the heart of the fans and takes an atomic crap on it every 10 years, no matter how many championships that owner wins.

I'm not a fan of the Chiefs because of the owner, or because of the championships, or because of the uniforms or whatever. I'm a fan of the Chiefs because they are my hometown team.

The moment Clark Hunt moves the team to LA, I become a fan of the expansion Kansas City Jazz or Jaguars or whatever NFL team they end up with. The moment Hunt makes his 2nd move to another city, he enters the discussion of worst owner ever. The moment he threatens to move the team to every open city he thinks might make him an extra $1 billion in profit, he ties Al Davis.

Until then, the owner who's only major move was hiring the "the most successful GM of this decade" can't remotely be considered among the worst owner in the NFL.

Suggesting that his grade is anything other than "Incomplete" is just taking stupid to 11.

And the difference is?



Yep, had to put the fix on that one.

It's early, but still you can not deny that the total moves in general present a very clouded vision at best in terms of where the overall program is headed.
And with all due respect, the "revolving roster" at this stage in the season smacks of desperation that runs fully counter to the "I build teams"-mantra.

You know Al is dying to bring him in.:D

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ahhhh....Now I feel like a man. Try it out fellas, makes you feel superior and smart :)

We have a team.

Yes, I'd agree that future success is cloudy at best. But, I think the vision is pretty clear. Whether it's going to work remains in question at the moment.

But no matter the case, anyone trying to argue that Hunt is the worst owner in the NFL based on the uncertain success our future holds, 7 games into a new regime is just acting like an over-reactive drama queen.

Again, Hunt's lone major move was putting the future of the football operations in the hands of "the most successful GM of this decade". That's a homerun move that might or might not work out. But that's the sort of owner I want. That's so far from the worst owner in football it's pathetic.

Not happening Dane.

First of all, Clark Hunt doesn't own the Chiefs by himself. He's the "chairman", because actual ownership is split between himself and his three siblings.

Secondly, I highly doubt Hunt would put over 100 million of his family's money into a facility owned by the county if they intended to sell the franchise.

Maybe so. But you are talking about Haley.

If, in the end, Todd Haley fails, it in no way means Hunt is the worst owner in football. In fact, unless something massively horrible transpires, the only way that Hunt can really have that case made about him, is if he emasculates his GM and starts micromanaging and trying to fire the coach or force various player moves like Al Davis or Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones have at times.

I want an owner who hires the best people and gives them the freedom to do their thing and a fair chance to succeed. Hunt clearly is doing that. Whether he hired the best person is "incomplete".

Then we disagree.

If that's true, and Hunt didn't just take a pass and wait for someone in LA to build a stadium for him to move into... he's a great owner.

I assume you disagree with the "vision is clear" part, and not with everything.

No, I am talking about Pioli. You don't build a team by shuffling players in and out of a revolving door for half of the season. At some point, you have to bunker-down with what you have and build some solidarity for the season.
Otherwise, you're calling the season and the good players you DO have a wash, and that you'd rather play chess and diddle with a never-ending roster of has-been's and wannabe's than try to build some consistent support for your GOOD players.
Cull the chaff from the wheat BEFORE you go to war. Players have been inconsistent because the PROGRAM has no consistency, save "your job and livelihood are on the line every week".
Bottom line; there were no better players to be had, at least not in great leaps and bounds talent-wise.

Yes.

It's refreshing,isn't it?

Of course you have to gargle an occasional Summer's Eve cocktail from time to time.

That is a small price to pay for intrawebs awsomeness though.

That's fair.

I don't know that on this issue it's possible to seperate Haley from Pioli. In fact, I'd guess that Haley is a huge part of the in-season player decisions, largely because he sees the threat of losing your job as a key part of his coaching philosophy. But that also means that you are right. Pioli is a key part of that approach.

That's not true of Hunt though. It is (as I understand it, and as it should be) hands off on his end.

Look, I don't need a history lesson on where Haley coached or didn't coach, once again you are spewing common knowledge like you are making some type of ****ing football revelation. One of your specialties.

You called the regime a bust 7 ****ing games into a season. You are such a jaded, conceited, biased, **** stick it is ridiculous.

Anytime someone makes a point you find some reeruned ****ing counter argument usually based on 1 sliver of a statement and blow it out of proportion.

If you think very many people around here value YOUR football opinion you are as delusional as you are an asshole. But that is to be expected at this point. Besides,unlike you I don't judge the quality of my life by the opinions of strangers on a ****ing message board. That is ****ing sad Dane.

If you suddenly swallowed yourself up with your giant bleeding asshole you would not be missed around here any more than I would.

Dane doesn't chill out. He just spews slander and profanity at people online, I have to assume for reasons I'll never know. He's all for just jumping all over people today though, disagree with him and he'll neg rep you. Ooooh, horry shitz batman, not a neg rep from an asshole...?!? What am I to do?

Dane, you're in California, buy some weed. Smoke it. Repeat as necessary.

Or buy less and smoke less and maybe the mood swings will subside.