Christ, just come right out and ask WHY he kicked to Cribbs - TWICE.

nick wright shut the f up. back of the roster. why r u kicking to cribs better question

Debatable.

If the Bears didn't try to turn Hester into something he isn't...

playoffs, playoffs

When you convert a 2nd and 2, it becomes a 1st and 10.

Some media members express their gratitude.

After that defensive effort, the dropped passes are the MOST aggravating thing in your life? Dead to me. **** him. **** the Chiefs until he's gone.

Gretz wondering if ball placement/timing is part of the issue.

Unbelievable, isn't it?

I can't believe people are still getting mad about this season...

For the first time in my life, it became comical to me...weeks ago.

Totally lost interest. Nothing to look forward to...

It's sad, but it is what it is...

Sorry, Todd, but the psyche of a franchise QB shouldn't be rattled by drops.

Matt is going to lead us to SB wins. I wish

The job of the QB is to stare adversity in the face, and make plays.

Like throwing a screen to a RB that is blocking?

You're right but you know Mark Castle wants to punch most of his receivers in the dick

I hope I never hear the phrase "doing it the right way" ever again.

Encouraged by Cassel.

Holy Christ.

Or throwing over the middle to a tight end you can't see.

And he has every right to feel this way.

And so do they when he consistently misfires or launches his flutter ball.

record setters/ LOL

Actually it is to me too. You can fix the d but this is more mental. They have changed and done everything to fix it and still happens.

But I was told drops aren't important and haven't happened on 3rd down.

This many drops would rattle any QB.
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That play was as bad as the toss in the flats, to end the 1st half, in the first Oakland game.
The guy just don't have it, he doesn't handle adversity well.

Cassel said he graded out with no errors in the Buffalo game?

WTF?

We are going to draft/sign WRs this offseason

I have no doubts the feeling is mutual, where was Bobby Wade this week btw?

Bull****ingshit.

who is this guy asking this stupid question?

You mean like that play where he rolled to the side and lofted it right to the CB?

That's it right there, it's never going to be Cassel's fault you can see the protection he's being given by this franchise.

Haley: That's a dumb question, Im not answering it

Wow...

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Sorry, fixing the drops is exponentially easier than fixing the D.

2 < 8

Number of talented players it will take to remedy the issue. Problem miraculously solved. The culture will be changed.

JFC.

Haley's a Cassel apologist.

Or throwing to where a RB should have been if he wasn't getting held by a defender. Either way...
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Someone dropped a but of a bomb.

Have you thought at all about why more weapons weren't acquired for Cassel, or more OL help?

No, not really.

Intelligent response.
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I was encouraged by Cassel's accuracy do you know how accurate you have to be to hit a crossbar from 30 yards out?

Jesus Christ, he was not.

He was blocking Eric Wright, who was coming on a CB blitz.

I was at the game and saw it, and Gannon apparently said the exact same thing on the broadcast.

Todd Haley always looks like he's on a 3 day bender.

Matt Cassel isn't aware of blocking assignments dude, other QB's call out protections he isn't even aware of them!

Not sure you could handle much more.

bradley was loafing

The play was NOT designed to be a hail mary. Not run as designed.

good I hope he looks worst by the end of the season.

So it was Cassel... Now defend him again.

so you are for Bowe being cut or traded? Chambers has had the case of the drops as well. They really have thrown alot of players at that position and it still happens.

I still say they have high drops because Cassel throws balls that aren't very catchable and he's never in the same spot with it...not to mention all of the guys in and out kills consistency.

Anyone that advocates the trading or cutting of Bowe should be banned from this site for at least one year.

JFC.

The amount of DUMBASSERY on this site is at record levels.

Dropped passes are a scratch in your paint. D this bad is a blown engine block.

I agree to an extent.

It's much easier to catch a tight spiral than it is a wobbling ball.

And accuracy is definitely part of it as well.

But there are obviously some coaching and/or concentration issues in play as well.

There is a reason that Chambers is a journeyman.

70% of the blame falls on Cassel for the drops though.

keep on hatin', haters. this is just the kind of crap you saw on BBs & in chat rooms during vince lombardi's first year in the NFL. keep hatin'. we'll see who's hatin' when we improve to 4 & 12 next year, bitches...

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It's a big mixture but obviously when a guy like Bowe who is a bit more prone to drops constantly gets balls on the back shoulder when they should be in front it's going to lead to more.

Is a guy that's only on his 3rd team when he's 32 really a journeyman?

I guess not. But after SD picked him up...didnt play him...then cut him...I think of him as one.

He always started for San Diego..he's actually never been a FA, drafted by Miami, traded to San Diego.

I am not but he said it was easily fixed by adding 2 players so I take it he means getting rid of Bowe since he is the primary culprit.

I would normally agree but the way we are dropping passes it is more than a scratch in your paint.

We had 3 straight 3 and outs because they couldn't hold onto a pass on 3rd down.

He didnt start very often. Seems like an injury or two forced him into the role. He only averaged like 20-25 receptions per season in SD.

He started every game for the Chargers that he was healthy for after the trade from the Dolphins.

Seems like you don't know who the hell Chris Chambers is prior to coming to the Chiefs.

Coaches like it as well.

For a second round pick.

No, dumbass.

Like hitting the crossbar with a 26 yard hail-mary.

That's three.

HAT TRICK!

I'd recommend gracefully bowing out of this particular conversation.

Just act like you have the runs and ask to be excused.

It's the best you're going to do.

Thing is, as bad as this problem is, it's A problem, singular. A problem that can be focused on and ameliorated with enhanced attention or new personnel in short order. The routes are being run right, people are getting open, the line is providing protection, the running game is still there for you. A million things going right and one [admittedly crucial] thing going wrong.
The problems with the D have exponential causes and ameliorating them could take years of work, even if tackled with perfect analysis and attention.

And that's not even delving into the age old question of whether it's more important to have a great passing game or defense to achieve ultimate success in the NFL.

I don't think the defense is that far away from becoming respectable ... not superb ... but significantly better. Vrable notwithstanding, we're still pretty darn young on that side of the ball.

We need a couple of serious playmakers ... a linebacker and a safety would be nice. Also somebody who can play nose with stoutatude. We also need a new DC, of course.

That should only take a couple of years if we are aggressive in FA and can hit on a couple of draft picks.

FAX

And FTR, it's not so much the relative fail of the two issues as it is the utter fail of the defense in recent weeks and singling out drops, DROPS, as the single most dispiriting thing in his life. And part of it is just knowing it's because he has soooo much invested in his cred as being able to coach up WRs.
Basically, I strongly sense that Haley could not care less about the defense. 'Meh, they'll get it worked out.' But WR play? That shit's personal.
You want to be a position coach, be a position coach.
If we had a punting 'guru' as our head coach with this exact same team, and he stated that the recent dropoff in punting production was the most dispirating thing he'd ever suffered, would you be as quick to leap to his support?

What? Did I say anything about Bowe?

Interestingly enough, I would have went the other way. I feel like the offense could actually be closer. A center and QB, along with a backup RB and possibly a WR (in the 2011 draft), would be on my radar for the future.

Defense will need a NT, 3 LB's (Vrabel, and both MLB's), and most likely 2 new safties.

Well BL almost every year in the NFL there is a team that the year before they sucked on D and the next year they are in the Top 5-10. It is not like it is impossible.

For example Green Bay went from 20 last year to 2 this year. Denver went from 29 last year to 3 this year.

But you are right it should take years. You should really go back to DC you do much better over there.

When is it going to be our year to do this? Yes, other teams have made the jump, but we've been dog shit, generally speaking, since '03.

My guess: it will happen when we get competent people in charge.

Have a Snickers.

I agree. It always seems a team brings in a new DC and a couple of players and they improve quite a bit....well except for us.