Yes it makes sense but at the same time it doesn't. That would mean this franchise wasted a year developing chemistry on the defensive side of the ball waiting for a retred defensive cordinator. It's not like some young guy couldn't run a New Englands cover 4. So if Pioli dicked around hiring a DC he also dicked around with the draft.

it was both....he said "crennel is likely to join the chiefs," but he never tells you if he has a source or just speculating on what's obvious

so he can walk it back later...schefter is the worst at this...

What difference would it make if our one year hire to hold the seat for Crennel was a young guy or a guy who had experience being a DC? How would that affect chemistry?

I think this year was a throw-away year anyway. Pendergast was not going to be a long term guy here. He's awful. When you get fired as the SB D coordinator, you must be a bag of ****ing shit.

I think this is good news. Crennel is an upgrade. He can effectively use talent. I'll be happy once Clancy is re-assigned to either a position coach or gone all together.

This is so common now, that the fan watching has no clue who actually has a source for what they say. It's all carefully worded so that it sounds like they have actual information without them claiming that

What would be Clancy's area of expertise, if he were to stay on as a position coach?

LB fluffer.

Keep in mind how late we were in the coaching hire process... there weren't exactly A-listers out there ripe for the plucking.

Depending on Crennel's health, you could also be looking at a co-DC scenario like the Lambs had in their Super Bowl season if they elect to keep Pendergast around for continuity...

:facepalm:

Also consider that Pendergast implemented the 3-4 in KC and had to deal with all of the BS in changing schemes. Now Crennel comes in and has the luxury of watching film on guys like Hali, Dorsey, Jackson, and others. Its a prefect situation for Crennel as he can come in and look good.

I hope we at least wait to see if Dallas fires Wade Phillips. That's the first, and best choice.

They look that they just might win a playoff game, so Wade might be safe for next year.

Pioli will never hire a non tree guy.

Wade Phillips' 3-4 isn't the same as the dumbass 3-4 we run here.

Wrong thread.

I'd be fine with that as well, but would he settle for a coordinator position? after being HC for 'Americas Team/groan' i have a hard time seeing it.

This wóuld be a great thing for KC. While Belichick ran the show in NE, the Patriots defense has not been as dominant since Romeo left. And don't give me 2007 stats, they blew it wehen the Championship was on the line. The Patriots from 2001 thru 2004 were defense first, and Crennel was part of that.
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Unless I'm mistaken, Wade is definitely on the tree and should be near the top when it comes to defense.

Now all we need is Trent Green as QB coach and the Sooper Bowl is OURS!!!

So you would have rather settled for a second-rate coordinator for 5 years rather than wait for the guy you really want after one season? Who cares if you threw a season away, as long as you got a guy in there you want. I would rather Philips than Romeo. But then, maybe Romeo is like Mike Nolan--a good coordinator who was never meant to be a head coach.

I'm pretty sure you're mistaken.

Huh. I thought he and Parcells worked together, but I guess he just replaced Parcells in Dallas so that wouldn't make any sense. I don't know where the **** I got that from.

Well, shit. Romeo it is.

Oh STFU. This isn't that bad. At least they are cutting deadwood in Pendergast. This is nepotism for sure but we could do a lot worse than a defensive coordinator with Super Bowl rings who has coordinated top defenses.

Heh. Interesting that you posted this because Warpaint Illustrated was talking about Crennel joining the Chiefs last offseason...and they had a lot of contact. They definitely wanted him...

You know that beer commercial where Romeo talks about the cold activated cans talking to him and wishing him congratulations? That really happened.

Oh thank God....Clancy better be gone tomorrow.

this

As did every other news source.

The biggest positive I see in getting the band back together is that takes a lot of excuses off the table.

Meh.

The only good thing about this, provided it happens, is that Pendergast is gone.

But as our friend htismaqe always said, better than bad does not equal good.

He was a figurehead in New England. If I want a defensive coordinator, I want a defensive coordinator.

Actually, no. And we got laughed at here over it.

Love this. Except, he doesn't have much to work with.

If he is the type of coach that can bring out the best in a defensive player or know how to use a player effectively by taking advantage of their strengths, then Im all for that.

I hope he is the kind of guy that can help assist with evaluating defensive talent. Chiefs need that. When it comes to the draft, they could use all the help they could get as far as evaluation goes because this team needs to select some good defensive players.

Where's the photoshop of Pioli in a dress on a balcony and Crennel in tights below.

"Romeo, Romeo, wherefore art thou Romeo?'

WPI could post the time and temperature here and get laughed at.

At this point how do we really know what level of responsibility he had in their success?

You just don't like the move because it reeks of nepotism. I can accept that, but realize the league is full of nepotism.

I will say Crennel's lack of defense in Cleveland is a bad sign. But I'm much more positive about this than I was Pendergast.

When are BB and Brady coming?

I am not too thrilled with Crennel, but he is better than Pendersuckscompleteass.

He looks like a cuddly teddy bear. I like him.

Dillon you son of a b*tch! lol...just say that to hamas will ya

That's like saying pancreatic cancer is better than lung cancer.

The official motto of ChiefsPlanet.

Oh come on. A MOUNTAIN of evidence?

I see evidence both for and against Crennel. I'm going to be positive about it because he won freaking Super Bowls as a defensive coordinator. That's more accomplishment at defensive coordinator than we've had since Bill Cowher.

What happened to you, Hamas, you used to be somebody I could trust?

I woke up. Why don't you?

Peter Giunta.

Oh, snap.

Soon, I hope.

But when Weis is added on the offensive side, I don't want to hear any bullshit. Produce.

We have all sorts of people with rings. Now find the proper personnel and ****ing make legit progress.

I will throw the **** up if I have to hear more shit about an "evaluation year." The fact that this is seriously discussed is amazing to me.

Everyone had to see this coming a mile away. Weis i didnt expect though.

The difference is that no one put any stock in Guinta's "Super Bowl defense."

Crennel's shut down PEYTON MANNING.

Hmmm...Well how did the cancer start off? Oh...because of the sh*ts we currently have on defense?

Now how do they cure the cancer? Just add some defensive talent either through FA or the draft...Co-ordinator or no co-ordinator everybody knows that is the root of the problem on defense. Simple as that.

You hate the Chiefs.

You're not working in the NFL, so I don't know how you can possibly make this statement.

Crennel is going to blast your arm off your body and watch it fall to the ground firing a machine gun.

I just love the dumbasses who think Bill Billichick completely did everything all by himself. Just because hes assistants don't make good HC's in no way means they aren't good assistants.

At the very least we get to start in with all the "fat coach" jokes now.

We haven't had a tub of goo roaming the sidelines in Kansas City since...I don't know when.

Well Kansas did. lol

It better not happen. This staff has had an entire year to soak in the ineptitude of this franchise. Anything less than .500 next year is entirely unacceptable.

What does that mean to you and me? If they don't get there, they'll be gone by 2015. If they do, they'll be here until at least 2020.

Ok, let's break it down, Dr. Jack Ramsey style:

Crennel coordinated Ds in New England, where he had a back 7 that had Tedy Bruschi, Rodney Harrison, and Mike Vrabel, who were all like coaches on the field. Not to mention the fact that he had Ty Law, Asante Samuel, Vince Wilfork, Dick Seymour, Ted Johnson, and on and on and on.

Now, combine that with the fact that his boss was a legendary DC whose gameplan from SB XXV is in the ****ing HOF and who keeps the longest hours in the game.

Then, add on our new DC's 4 years of coaching in Cleveland, where he never fielded a decent defense with talent comparable to that in Kansas City.

Where is the evidence to suggest that he'll do well, other than the osmosis theory, which we assumed would work for Scott Pioli, Eric Mangini, Crennel himself once, and McDaniels??

It will be interesting to see how good he really is. The defense in New England hasn't been even as dominant in the later years as they were under Romeo. I don't know how much of that was based on poor drafting in the later years. But maybe there's something to it.

I also think that Romeo will get a ton of mileage out of Tyson Jackson and Dorsey. His experience teaching 3-4 D-linemen is almost unparalleled. One thing I feel pretty comfortable about is that he'll help Pioli find the right nose tackle and our D-line is going to be very well equipped to win in the trenches. At the very least, that's what we get.

I see nothing wrong with this hire it is definitely an upgrade over our current DC

Well, basically they've been successful with a revolving door at the coordinator positions. That potentially indicates that the coordinators weren't difference makers.

Christ, just about anyone would be considered an upgrade.

People bitched for 20 years about Carl hiring his buddies, and now when the Executive of the Decade does it, it's perfectly acceptable.

lol

This.

Where is the evidence to suggest that he won't do it well? You're making the argument that Patriots coordinators don't make good coaches, and that's probably true. They try to hard to be Bellichick when they're not.

But Mike Nolan was a horrible head coach in San Francisco and Gregg Williams was an absolute nightmare in Buffalo. How do you know Romeo won't follow in their shadow?

In Pioli's defense, the Cassel acquisition was a clear anti-Carl move.

Yeah, because he only gave up a R2 pick, instead of a R1 pick.

LMAO

Crennel and Mangini installed their defensive systems where they went and failed miserably.

They didn't fail b/c of their offense, which might be understandable.

LOL You can't use the Browns defense as a example since he wasn't the DC. How often to great DC's become HC's and field great defenses with that team also? Defenses Guru Dungy never had a good defense with the Colts.

He's morbidly obese. Those guys make the best coaches. Mangini is just fat, for instance. Maybe if he ate more fast food while spending countless hours in the office, he'd be a better coach. But no, Mangini has to take the time to prepare a salad every once inawhile.

Also think about what your saying, he didn't make the Browns good? Bill ****ing Billichick couldn't make the Browns good.

I think they bitched about it because it didn't work.

Everyone in the NFL hires their buddies for the most part.

Its just really a team concept isn't it? yes, this means we need to look at things from a broader perspective.

Actually, the Browns were improving, then the bottom fell out when Modell announced the move mid-season.

Christ definitely would be an upgrade but he is not available or so I hear.

Marty Schottenheimer did, and I'm no fan of Marty's.

That's a stupid argument.

So what you are saying is that in order to have a good team you n eed good players? Ya, we didnt already know that.

This team has to get good players plain and simple. I rather have Crennel. Hopefully he has a good eye for talent and we can draft some players. He doesnt have to concentrate on both sides of the ball just 1.

No matter how we look at it, we are ging to have to pick something from someones tree.

We do have to give the guys a few years to see if they can raise the ****ing dead.

I will say this again, KC started over. They completely threw out Herm's plans and started from scratch.

We may not like it, but thats what it is. Welcome to rebuilding hell, it takes a toll on the fans.

Peyton Manning wouldn't be successful in KC.

Were you ****ers expecting a playoff birth?