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Clark Hunt hired the biggest name GM on the market, that's a bit concerning to me many times the biggest name guy out there isn't the best choice.
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I don't see any difference between doing what we're doing now, and doing what you're proposing other than basing it around different teams. The people are different, but its not like there's any less of a risk either way. I don't see a difference in risk hiring Weis than anyone in the Steeler organization that they are actually willing to part with. And a difference in talent is something neither you nor I can accurately measure, nor anyone else can. So that's a moot point. |
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If Clark was as cheap as you think there were a lot cheaper options than making Pioli the highest-paid GM in football. |
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And then making Haley keep Gailey? Wtf?
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The Hunts have cared how much money the Chiefs made them for my entire life, that's just how it is.
There are many other owners that care far more about winning than Clark Hunt or Lamar did in my lifespan. |
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Hell most of the informed posters on here didn't want Pioli. |
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That can be laziness as much as due diligence. They treat this team as an investment rather than a competitive entity. |
If he cares so much why is he never at games?
I always wonder if some fans of the Chiefs are stunned when other owners are shown at their teams games. |
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The Chiefs were selling out going 8-8...
This year the Chiefs were far under the cap...he got them about the only GM candidate that the casual fan would know by name. That's an investment move. |
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I have some friends from around that neck of the woods that ran many fund raisers that he was involved in and he was staying put. He has declined to interview for at least 3 different coordinator positions but chose to stay. |
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It still blows my mind why more teams don't steal Eagles defensive coaches, to me that is the best scheme going today.
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I think Clark Hunt gives a very large shit. |
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This is why I don't see the problem with Weis. I think Pittsburgh would go after Weis if they had the position to fill this year. Its not like they think they're so special they don't have to recognize talent from other places. |
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Saying he's never at games is a bunch of BS. |
So do you think we spent no money FA because Clark would only sign off on 1 move being Cassel factoring in the Jackson pick you know playing in that he's cheap...
Or was Pioli really naive to think this team had talent? |
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Who gives a **** if he throws on a peacoat and flies up to KC when it's cold. How is that commitment? |
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Well I do think regardless of how tarded they may be at times, Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones care far more about winning than our owner does.
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Kinda like a Master's Jacket, you carry that shit around with you forever. Even if you only win one once, you wear it when it happened 40 years ago. |
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You do realize he has other responsibilities than just Chiefs football...and technically he's the Chairman of the Board, he's not the owner. If he didn't give a shit he wouldn't come to camp at all. |
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Signing guys to minimum contracts is not being a player in FA.
This team was devoid of talent with huge cap space with an uncapped year looming and spent no money, explain how that is well thought out. |
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Well if we go to uncapped year he won't be doing anything because there aren't going to be any FA's.
See the problem? |
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You want to start winning sooner than later? Try using a coaching crew that already knows each other. That's that much less time they have to figure stuff out. |
Clark Hunt $$$ spent
Stadium Renovations Matt Cassel Scott Pioli Todd Haley Firing Herm Edwards Tyson Jackson was in the running for Haynesworth (supposedly, who really knows?) How do you know if Clark does or doesnt attend games? I know that Lamar only missed less than a handfull of games in like 40 years. If you wanna talk shit about Lamar Hunt, go follow the ****ing Falcons or something. |
I'm sorry, in the time I've been alive I can't say Lamar Hunt cared that much about the team winning games.
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Until we have a solid player at every position, I don't want to see us go after that lunker of a FA. Free Agency is an EXPENSIVE way to build your team, a good team does so in the draft. And if you think Pioli sucks at drafting players, then... it SUCKS TO BE YOU! :) Cause he's here, he's going to be drafting them for a while now (see how long our last GM was here), and there's nothing you can do about it. |
Well dude if you look at the Pats drafting history...it's pretty subpar especially as the years have gone on.
I'm a big proponent of the draft but I thought the Chiefs should have spent money this year, when you are that far under the cap, have no one to resign in the near future but have no players who are in the 26-30 range because you had very poor past drafts you should spend some money. The Chiefs basically have money to spend because they drafted so poorly they have no stars to resign. |
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He turned a 25K investment into a multimillion dollar franchise. Good for him. But once he won the SB his level of interest waned significantly, which is why we had 2 GMs for 40 years and less than a handful of playoff wins. |
That is a completely different argument, you know the Pats core right now is a FA built core right?
Their drafts have really shit the bed as of late. |
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Seymour isn't on that team right now so how does he count?
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Also the Pats shitting the bed in the draft is why they still have a shitty RB and why their defense has faded, all of the young guys they drafted to come in and play suck ass aside from Mayo, who should be good any LB that went where he did should be that player.
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Most of their good players were drafted..
2 of their 3 best offensive players were not drafted by them... They're awful at drafting rush backers even in their bowl winning years, Vrabel, Colvin, Thomas etc etc none of those guys were drafted by the Pats they're all FA moves. |
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Well after this last draft I'm certainly not going to hold my breath because that was an epic disaster.
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They draft what they can, and fill in the rest, but without spending an obscene amount of money on a few players. |
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I agree with you the last draft sucked but also I would give it a few years before saying it for sure.
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You would be backing it if Pioli went full reerun in signing Haynesworth to that full reerun deal? How about Jason Brown to his reeruned deal? You think we had a chance at Canty or Igor? If you said yes, you know less about football than I thought and I have to reaccess my opinion of you. Quote:
It is one of the most ignorant things I have ever read about any topic; football or non football related, in my entire 31 year old life. Congratulations! Why exactly do you claim to like this team, again? All I see is a guy that hates everything to do with his, supposed, loved team! Im not sure I have read anything from any of your posts in all the time I have been here that would indicate that you even like this team. I hate to say it and with all due respect, you seem to have the attitude of a quitter. You seem to have no feelings of hope that we can get better and that we will be stuck eternally in the cellar. If so, why claim to like the team, just go ahead and sell me all your Chiefs stuff and you can go and buy your Sanchez jersey like everyone knows you want to. If you dont like the Weis hire, hate is blinding your objectivity. Quote:
JFC I forgot, his teams were always well below the salary cap and he just pocketed cash year in and year out without doing everything from his point of view to put good people in position to do a job for him and then somewhat let them do their job. If he medled in the affairs that are the GMs job, he would get criticized for it but because he tries to put the best man for the job in the position and let him work, he is the bad guy? :shake: |
Good thing they did because they lacked talent because they drafted like crap....
The Patriots have a lot more in common with the Cowboys than they do the Eagles or Colts or Ravens. The Cowboys have some nice draft picks but were largely built in FA, actually the Cowboys might have more draft picks playing for them than the Pats do. That's where we have to think about the perception of how teams were built since I assume most would not classify the Cowboys and Pats near each other in how they build teams. |
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I see that is a nerve for Boss Chief, I'm sorry I can't jump around with a happy hat on after a team being inept for upwards of 20 years.
Kinda makes you want evidence before you just you know say hey they know what they're doing. |
BossChief, you're going to have to get over the myth that this team was anything more than an investment and a passing hobby for Lamar for the last 30 years of his life.
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UCLA Philly Rams Chiefs Marty was a Phillip Rivers away from a Championship team year in and year out. Too bad Joe couldnt have gotten here a little sooner. I dont see how Lamar can be blamed for our team starting to suck after he passes and I damn sure wont sit idely by and let some bullshit mutherfuker sit from his moms basement on her computer and piss on the great mans grave! Without the Hunts love for this fanbase and city, this team would have been moved to LA a long time ago. |
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If it wasn't a total guessing game, The Steelers wouldn't have picked Rashard Mendenhall and would have gone with the RB the Titans got with the next freaking pick... Chris Johnson. |
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Jesus, take a Thorazine. |
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It's not like they drafted Aaron Smith, Roethlisberger, Polamalu, Casey Hampton, Keisel, Holmes, Ward, Timmons, Woodley, Mike Wallace, Ziggy Hood, or Ike Taylor. :facepalm: They were looking for a power back in that spot. They had their speed guy in Parker. They needed a replacement for Bettis. They got the best power back available at that point in the draft. |
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I'll take one too, it'll be fun. |
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And like I said before. It must suck to hate the current regime this much cause they aren't going anywhere for a while. I suggest you stop watching if it infuriates you this much. |
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They didnt! They spent their cash on Cassel and the best available GM candidate then tried to get the biggest FA out there signed till Scrooge McDuck came in on his white horse and his 100 million to get him no matter what. They spent 100s of millions to update the historic Arrowhead instead of blowing it up and spending that money in a market that is 100 times bigger than KCs or just destroying the stadium and its history and building a brand new one without any history, thats love! Lamar Hunt lived in Texas and flew in for EVERY game and cheered like a HS kid when we scored. He was a great owner! We almost never lost our own players, we just didnt have the people in place to draft like the great teams did. Lamar trusted CP more and longer than he should have, but he knew his history of building winners and trusted him to do his job to the best of his ability. I think he was sold into CPs slickness and made a mistake when we had the whole Marty/CP blowup, but whatever. Say all you want about Clark, I have reserved judgement on him, but dont piss on Lamars grave! |
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