REP! :)

haha nice avatar :clap:

:facepalm:

Seriously, do you just make this $hit up? Are you drunk? High?

I can't believe anyone would think that a seasoned coach like Marty didn't have input on the drafts. Why don't you call him on his radio show and ask him. You'll find out that you're WRONG. Completely WRONG. Marty had plenty of input on the drafts.

Yeah, Marty had a bad relationship with AJ, but it wasn't about Marty trying to take control of personnel. You have your facts WRONG...AGAIN. It was more about Marty's staff (or loss of) & the hiring of his brother. Here's some credible info for you:

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/spo...1n13marty.html

http://legacy.signonsandiego.com/uni...s18martys.html

"Our fans deserve to know what changed for me over the last month. When I decided to move ahead with Marty Schottenheimer in mid-January, I did so with the expectation that the core of his fine coaching staff would remain intact." ~ Dean Spanos


To borrow one of your phrases: JFC

NOTHING that you posted disputes the fact that Marty wanted to take control of personnel.

NOTHING.

Furthermore, Marty wasn't hired by AJ Smith. He was hired by John Butler, who died. AJ was promoted and didn't like or get along with Marty.

You need to shut the **** up.

Oh and BTW, **** YOU.

Do you live in SoCal? Did you listen to the radio and TV reports at the time? Do you know anyone in the Spanos family?

**** OFF, ****BAG

I would find it difficult to believe that ANY coach in the NFL doesn't have major input in draft day decisions.
For instance, even though Carl had final say and picked LJ, Dicky V. let it be known he wanted the best defensive player Troy P. who went to steelers. It was put out there the coach could be overruled, but most picks were the coaches.
Herm was a bad coach, but had an eye for DB's and so Flowers and Carr would be his picks, not Carl's. marty has too good a draft history to believe he didn't have major role in the drafts while he was there.

What
I've heard he wanted a defensive player
this is the 1st I've heard it was Polamalu

Vermeil wanted Tyler Brayton, not Troy P.

It was my understanding that DV wanted Tyler Brayton with that first pick not Troy P ...

I love this move, A.J. Smith is a genious.

REP!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Should have known the chiefs would screw up the pick anyway. I guess this is where I got that from:

"The Chiefs actually had the 16th pick in the draft but, not seeing a defensive player who fit their eye, they traded down to 27. That would not be worth a side-note except Pittsburgh is the team that traded up to 16 ... and with that pick they took safety Troy Polamalu, one of the most dominating defensive players in the NFL."

"Johnson was drafted in the first round with the 27th overall pick in the 2003 NFL Draft as insurance for the Kansas City Chiefs, who were unsure if Priest Holmes would be healthy or even sign a contract extension. Johnson was drafted over the objection of head coach Dick Vermeil, who wanted to select a defensive player, and despite the lack of recent NFL success by Penn State running backs."

yeah at least LJ had some productive seasons for us... I doubt we would say the same thing about Brayton.... but damn that passing up Polamalu still stings :cuss:

yeah, if only there was a way to go back in time so we can get the chance to draft a playmaking safety...wait, no need, we can just do it this time!

the LJ pick doesn't bother me near as much as passing on Aaron Rodgers to pick Derrick Johnson.....

You are a total football idiot. ("Jamal Charles isn't an NFL football player.") And your reading skills suck. Get a life, d-bag.

'Our fans deserve to know what changed for me over the last month,' Chargers president Dean Spanos said. 'When I decided to move ahead with Marty Schottenheimer in mid-January, I did so with the expectation that the core of his fine coaching staff would remain intact. Unfortunately, that did not prove to be the case, and the process of dealing with these coaching changes convinced me that we simply could not move forward with such dysfunction between our head coach and general manager.

**** you. Claythan took something out of context and did not even quote the whole post.

You're a ****ing moron for even quoting that, dipshit.


I LOVE IT when cockbags like yourself try to "defeat" me in a debate when all you have is a newspaper quote. It's pathetic.

Like you.

LMAO


And yeah, Dummy, the dysfunction came because Marty wanted power over personnel.

You defeated yourself with your stupidity and lack of factual information. An official statement from THE OWNER OF THE TEAM carries no weight with you because it proves you are wrong. I get it. You have a hard time with failure. So instead of admitting that you made a mistake, you lash out and try to bluster your way out of your error. Just like you did with the Jamaal Charles comment and similar misteps regarding facts about Willie Roaf. And so many other threads over the years. Your schtick is trite. You should reign it in and maybe get some help before it gets you in trouble.

I remember being nothing short of amazed that DJ dropped to 15... He was supposed to be top-10. As a matter of fact, I remember pre-draft wishing we had a higher pick so we could get HIM, and in my head thinking, "Maybe they'll trade up..."

I won't ever be upset we made that pick, even if it didn't work out ideally.

I danced around my house when DJ fell to 15. Hopefully he gets his shit together. It's obvious the guy could be great.

I wasn't disappointed that we picked DJ....we needed defense for sure but passing on a potential franchise QB really bothers me.... and I really liked Aaron Rodgers coming out of Cal