You asked how many first round draft picks on the offensive line were on either team. I answered. Seems pretty straight forward to me.

You're the dipshit that asked the question, not me.

What position does Woodley play and what position does Graham play? Is it the same one? (Not that it's relevant - well as relevant as a Hali/Woodley comparison...)

His entire career? You mean like high school? Eric Berry, up until he enrolled at Tennessee and ended up at safety, was a quarterback for his "entire career." It doesn't mean that he's going to be playing it in the NFL.

But, I concede. You win. You've convinced me that Brandon Graham is the greatest defensive end/linebacker prospect ever. I will never again besmirch his name by comparing him to someone of Hali's ilk. And they don't play the same position and shouldn't be considered to play the same position on the Chiefs.

Graham is Woodley, Woodley is Graham. Neither are Hali and to infer as such shall be considered heresy.

Doesn't "on the offensive line" imply that they have to be starting and actually playing, you cocksmoking ****ing reerun?

You really didn't have to conceed. Anyone with the comprehension level of a 3rd grader could read how bad you got owned in this entire thread.

Watching you post back and forth with people who understand football is like watching Mike Tyson fight Peter McNeeley.

*yawn*

Thanks once again for contributing...

nothing.

Wait, I'll make up a bunch of stuff and post it as fact and then go to YouTube to try to support every claim I make.

OKUNG FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since you obviously don't approve of highlight videos, here's a couple of reports/analysis on Graham:

I just don't know what he's going to give you over a guy like Hali, especially when you take into account the learning curve. I doubt that he would be truly effective playing the SAM position, and I know Hali wouldn't be able to play it so you'd be drafting him to replace Hali. As such, did Hali's performance this past season dictate that the Chiefs need to consider using a high draft pick for a replacement?

Look lets be frank here, most of the teams in the league that are consistently good, have 1 or no first round offensive linemen while having several 1st round dlinemen.

Chiefs have three first round picks on the defensive front line. Hali, Dorsey, Jackson.

Chiefs have one on the offensive line in Albert.

By your standard mentioned above, the Chiefs have set themselves up to be consistently good.

FAIL

Hali is an OLB. Which is not a DE, NT, or DE. Do you watch football?

EDIT- Yes I know he was drafted as a DE and OLB's used to be DE's once upon a time. But fact is hes not one on our team anymore.

So, what you're saying is that with Hali switching to the 3-4 ROLB spot that we now only have 2 first round draft picks on the defensive line and we now need another one to complete the trifecta?

Are you advocating a nose tackle with our first round selection this year? Terrence Cody? Dan Williams?

I didn't say we need to draft a NT in the top five at all, douche bag.

But if we are talking about drafting a NT before a LG, C, RG, or RT in the top five. Then yes I would.

The fact is this years top five pick shouldn't be used on a linemen on either side of the ball.

ROFL I've never seen Austin ownage quite like this.

That was pretty funny. Not that watching saccopoo try to talk about Graham wasn't funny enough on it's own.

A deaf mute who has just watched one game of football in his life could own sacapoo when it comes to talking about football. Hes just a ****ing idiot.

Ownage? That he took offense about a comparison between Hali and Graham in terms of the position that they played in college, then proceeded to start screaming "Woodley! Woodley! Woodley!" and then mentioning something about Graham playing linebacker in high school?

(BTW, I never even mentioned Woodley, so I still don't understand why the Hali/Woodley comparison was brought up anyway.)

That's "ownage?" I guess if you say so...

You seemed to get pretty bent out of shape about not having Hali's first round draft status on the defensive line anymore. I just figured that you were so distraught about having him be a first round linebacker now, that you were advocating a new first round defensive tackle to take his place.

Or perhaps you are just a bit miffed that with Hali now playing linebacker, that it would nullify any potential pick of Rolando McClain because that would give the Chiefs three first round picks at linebacker versus only two on the defensive line. And we all know how bad you are on McClain's jock.

BTW - Your sig is kinda ghey. Not the Iowa State one, but the little internet gif. It makes you look like you are 13 or so. I'm having a difficult time taking anything you say seriously when you've got "WAI" "NO WAI" "KENT B!" flashing repeatedly. (Not that I take anything you say seriously anyway as it seems all you can do is hurl personal insults with the now worn out RustShack mantra of "he never watched football." You really haven't provided anything of substance of late. Maybe it's just the whole "I know we really need an offensive lineman, but the "cool" kids want a kick returner so I'll play along so they let me into their gang and I can be a cool kid too." thing. It's probably eating at your very existence. The guilt, the inner conflict. Slowly disintegrating your subconscious, gnawing at your objective reasoning, poisoning your soul. I can see the conflict within you. Your words scream for help, for understanding.)

oh shit, sacc bringin out the big guns.

i know my opinion doesn't count for a lot but poo brings a lot to the table. doesn't go along with the consensus and backs it up(whether or not u want to admit albert may not be an elite lt, dude has a point).

I think a lot of the backlash is based on the fact that we want to see this team as far along in the rebuilding as possible. If Albert can hold down the LT we've already got a key player and are therefore farther along in the process, but if he ends up not being able to the team is set back practically a whole year from a drafting standpoint. I think the dude is just a realist.

You are being intellectually dishonest because it was clear the reason he asked the question was the fact that none of the starters in the SB on the OL were first rounders, and he was asking a rhetorical question to make a point.

If you didn't know that, then you are a ****ing moron.

Which is it?

Are you intellectually dishonest or a moron?

Albert isn't setting any team back a full year in rebuilding. Saying this makes Okung look like he's the best LT talent to come out in the last 10 years, which is hilarious.

A lot of the backlash is because the dude is a moron. It has nothing to do with the Chiefs rebuilding.

His takes are on the RoyR scale of excellence.

Albert isn't setting back any process a year. He is in the 2nd year in a new system, lost way too much weight in my opinion, and now we want to throw him to the wolves. This is exactly the same type of panic move that has constantly set this team back to the point where we have shit on this roster.

This team has far too many holes to worry about moving a player who has shown signs of being really good at the LT position to draft another one and move Albert elsewhere. Not to mention the fact that Russell Okung is not an elite prospect. We have zero idea whether or not he'd be an upgrade to Albert at the pro level. Albert is not going to be a LG with Brian Waters on the roster, so where does he play then?

This draft is loaded at playmakers at key positions we can upgrade and we are discussing drafting a replacement for a player, who one year ago, was viewed as a dominant LT for the future?

That's complete nonsense. He's the absolute only one who thinks Albert played like shit all year. That should tell you something.

If you want to replace Albert fine, but at least wait until theres a ****ing better LT prospect than Albert in the draft. Or are you just worried because you know if we wait for a real LT we will pass on him because Albert will emerge in his third year like most players do?

Bag of Shit does make one solid point as it relates to taking a LT in this draft.

That being, should Albert prove he's not the guy, then LT becomes a need in next year's draft, a draft in which we could/should be looking at QB and WR in the first round.

That in no way diminishes the rest of his dumbassery.

This was also supposed to be the year of DE's, so it doesn't always work out like you think the year before.

The point still has merit, regardless of which positions jump to thhe top of the next draft.

And if Albert doesn't pan out, you do not need to replace him with a first round pick.

And you have missed EVERYTHING I Was saying yet again...

Woodley was mentioned because EVERYONE says that Graham is Woodley minus 1 inch of height... He learned DIRECTLY from Woodley, is almost identical in size and strength. Played the same position in college for the same school and is projected to play the exact same spot in the Pros.

THAT is why Woodley is mentioned.

NOW... please reread that paragraph until you understand it ....

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ok, got it now?
no? ok reread it again please....

OK, moving on... so assuming Graham becomes Woodley part 2 in the NFL.. he will play LOLB not ROLB which is where Hali plays... so your point that he would replace Hali (who you mistakenly think is anywhere near as good) is moot.

AND please quit saying "he can't play SAM".. #1 you are wrong and #2 WE DON'T HAVE A SAM LB IN OUR DEFENSE.. unless Crennel changes things up ... KC plays with a LOLB and ROLB

and finally... he didn't just play LB in high school.. he started playing LB at 8 years old... so a solid 10 years at LB... hence why I said his entire career before U-M.

Well, if it wasnt pwnage before, it sure as **** is now!

Well done. If he argues that, he is to be considered in the realm of knowmo