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Flaaco isn't a franchise QB?

He has the potential to be.

Maybe Center?

:doh!:

That would be a disaster.

Anything is possible!



LMAO

Is there anything wrong in trying waters at the center position. He has shown his adaptability once. He is getting older and slower but he is a talented O-lineman. Why not try him. I know you are the God of football on this board, but sometimes us mortals have opinions too. :shake:

I've already talked about this, but I'll go over it again just for you.

Waters struggled with handling the Center/QB exchange earlier in his career when the attempt was made to play him at center, and his physical skills are diminishing fairly rapidly already.
Moving him to the more physicalling demanding center position would further escalate those diminishing physical skills.

I know Gaither is good, but is he really that much better than Albert?

You're a dumbass for assuming Albert would automatically be successful at guard.

He's not the same player he was in college. His body has changed. He hasn't played left guard in TWO YEARS and hasn't learned SHIT about how to do it at the NFL level.

It would likely be another transition and a tough year for him.

Nevertheless, the word is that the Chiefs are thinking about it.

As a LT, yes, IMO.

Wow. According to everybody here they are perfectly happy with Niswanger.

I've heard what I've heard. And from two different sources. I think it's only an experiment.

Question of semantics.

He is much further along in his development at LT than Albert because he's been playing and working at the position for a hell of a lot longer.

However, Albert is a naturally gifted athlete with really fluid and quick feet who needs time to learn the nuances of teh position.

Giving up a second round pick for Gaither would have been a great investment because he's a guy with the size and strength to excel at RT, but also is a damn good LT who could move over should Albert not develop.

His primary issue, it seems, is injury concerns.

I agree. However, I would not be opposed to moving Niswanger to RG, he did a little bit of that under Herm and played OK. I think it's fairly obvious he isn't strong enough to be a center. He probably isn't good enough at Guard either, but as thin as we are, if he's better, it's worth a shot, one more position we don't have to draft.

I thought they were crazy. I ate copious amounts of crow.

I don't know what word you heard, but it's not even close to the truth.

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I'd take him for anything that isn't the top 5 pick, he's superior to all of the OT's in the draft and is roughly the same age.

Are you questioning the voices in his head?

Nope wouldn't do it sorry.

I think there is going to be some good talent available in the 2nd round, and the Chiefs could use both 2nd rounders at other areas of need that are easily more important right now i.e., defense.

Too much value there in the 2nd, I don't think it's worth it to give up one of our 2nd rounders.

The Chiefs could draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th round.

What in the **** does a guard have to do with Gaither?

No disrespect, but you and Hamas are full of shit. You say you would love this, but it just isn't true. All offseason you have been ranting and raving about how we already have a LT and don't need to draft one. You could CRUCIFY Pioli if he ever made that kind of move.

Now, before you go and argue that this is different, and we don't need a LT at the #5 spot, most of you have scoffed at the idea of taking one early in the second. Come on now, you guys couldn't be happy no matter what happened.

2nd round picks are not equal to 1st round picks, it's acceptable to use a 2nd round pick on a RT.

Reading comprehension, try it sometime.

Because BG mentioned trading one of our 2nd rounders for Gaither and moving Albert over to LG. Im saying, keep our 2nd rounders, invest them on defense instead, possibly draft a guard in the 3rd or 4th and the Chiefs can leave Albert where he is and let him learn the LT position.

I'm pretty sure he'd get tried at the other OT first, but here's how it goes, Gaither for a 2 is an outstanding deal, I'm a fan of the draft but the idea that for a team like ours a 2 is better is frankly overvaluing the pick.

Gaither is the same age as many of the prospects in the draft.

Just so I fully understand.

While I have no problem keeping Albert at LT. If the opportunity presented itself where we could lock up a good to potentially very good LT and move Brendan to guard, you would turn it down for the 50th pick in the draft because we need defense?

Holy mother of ****ing christ.

He's 23. He's played in a winning organization and produced. He's 23, which would also be younger than some of the players in this draft.I'll just mention again that he's 23 years old.

You would swear that Carl Peterson/Scott Pioli posts here.

I'll be the first to admit when I'm wrong, I've done it over and over again here. But I had Baltimore in the CP mock that year and I took Flacco in the 2nd round and got chided by a few people over it.

You're spinning your wheels. I'm stumped. Even the most avid Albert fan can agree that Gaither for a 2nd rounder is like stealing.

I think a lot of posters on here just watch the Chiefs. They are like the fantasy owners who think they should give up peanuts for someone else's prize, but thinks you need to give up the brinks truck for their studs.

I have been pimping Jason Fox in the draft all offseason because he's a guy that I think can excel at RT, and has the athletic ability to move over and play LT if Albert continues to struggle.

The Ravens had concerns about Gaither, and had a LT prospect fall to them in the middle of the first round.

But the biggest difference is that Oher is a hell of lot better LT prospect than any of the LTs in this draft, and I'm not pissing away a top 5 pick on a RT.

If you get a starting LT for a 2nd round pick, it frankly doesn't matter where Albert was drafted anymore, you didn't use 2 1st round picks.

Kent Babb and Walter Football.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

I think KCJohnny knows more about what's going on with the Chiefs than Kent Babb.

I am the most avid Albert fan, and I'm admitting that a 2nd for Gaither is a steal.

Seriously if this team drafts an OT with a top 5 pick after this FA signing I'm going to strongly consider finding a new hobby.

Yeah, I'm not a fan of his either. I chuckled when I saw that he even got a shoutout on walterfootball.com.

What's the difference in value between the #5 and #50 pick in the draft?

About the same as the difference on a continuum between Terry Schiavo (#5) and you (#50)

Yes Gaither is a good young player, I like the kid.

But if Im running a team, Im looking at balance. I want my team to be well balanced and go from there. By saying that, Im weighing the teams weaknesses and strengths throughout. From there I decide what is most important, I look at the draft, and intend on taking BPA to go along with satisfying the teams needs.

If one has to weigh who was better in performance between the Oline and passrush last year. Offensive line wins. Offensive line didn't perform well throughout the season, if I had to judge the OL it would be satisfactory level. But I will say the OL got better as the season went on, which is a positive. The passrush however, was dismal throughout the entire season and it has been over the last two years. Offensive line is more of a strength on this team then the passrush. There may be some good passrushers available in the 2nd round, why not keep that pick and select the BPA in the 2nd, I have a feeling there will be a good passrusher sitting there when it comes time to pick. So Id rather see them address that issue since I feel it is definately more of a glaring need, but better yet, I'd like to see this team establish some balance. Go for balance. It's the best way. We'd be better off and build a stronger team down the road.

Hey Mecca, reading comprehension. Try it sometime.

Hey Hamas, look up you ****ing abortion. Don't act like you too haven't scoffed at the notion of drafting a LT in the 2nd in favor of moving Albert.

What you DoucheyMcdoucherton's fail to realize is that I do not condone such a move. I'd be all over Gaithers if I though we had a chance at him, but, I don't. A team will give up a 1st for him. If not, then we ought to give up 2b if it'd be enough, 2a if it comes to hardball.

No, we've been against the notion of spending a top five pick over a guy who wouldn't be better than Albert.

If we could get someone who could be as good, and perhaps better (while also the same age) as Albert, for a 2nd round pick, you do that.

What second round tackle in this draft has the potential of Branden Albert?

Even if we play Gaither at RT, he's got a great game for RT, particularly in this scheme.

There is no one in this draft with the ability that Gaither has, save Bruce Campbell (if he pans out).

Would you be wary of drafting Bruce Campbell at #50? Sure as shit is brown, I wouldn't.

I'd take Campbell at 36...

Projecting much, O Zeus of Football?