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Frosty 04-23-2010 09:04 PM
Maybe Cottam and Moeaki can trade off weeks on the injury report.

aturnis 04-23-2010 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707119)
We were suppose to get 4 starters, instead we got 1 starter and some role players.
How do you figure?

soundmind 04-23-2010 09:05 PM
Moving up into the third for anything other than a NT solution was a mistake. Period.

notorious 04-23-2010 09:06 PM
We got more then 1 starter, lets not get too out of hand.

notorious 04-23-2010 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 6707128)
Moving up into the third for anything other than a NT solution was a mistake. Period.
Le This.

Mecca 04-23-2010 09:07 PM
Would you like to be nice and say McCluster is a starter?

Asamoah probably won't be starting right away, unless the great Lilja signing wasn't so great.

aturnis 04-23-2010 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 6707141)
Would you like to be nice and say McCluster is a starter?

Asamoah probably won't be starting right away, unless the great Lilja signing wasn't so great.
...and what if he's our center?

Brock 04-23-2010 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6707120)
I am normally a calm and nice guy especially to noobs so stfu.

I am pissed because we gave up 2 ****ING DRAFT picks for an injured TE. Guess what Lanny we already have one of those in Cottam you ****ing moron.
Let's get real, you're basing your opinion of this TE you never heard of before on a blurb you read about him in the draft thread right after the pick.

Chiefaholic 04-23-2010 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6707086)
Everyones response sums this pick up. Everyone is saying "if he stays healthy" How many times have we heard that? How man times have they stayed healthy and panned out?
Why take a chance on injury, and trade Jamaal Charles RIGHT NOW while he still had trade value? He's small... And people in the NFL hit hard. I bet we can get that 5th rounder back tomorrow.

What am I forgetting here?... Oh yeah...**** Pioli!!! My dog has a higher IQ than that **** sucking mother ****er. :evil:

notorious 04-23-2010 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6707151)
Let's get real, you're basing your opinion of this TE you never heard of before on a blurb you read about him in the draft thread right after the pick.
I have to be honest, that move upset me a little bit.


I hope to God I am wrong, though.

aturnis 04-23-2010 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6707151)
Let's get real, you're basing your opinion of this TE you never heard of before on a blurb you read about him in the draft thread right after the pick.
How do you feel about the pick Brock?

Personally I think this is the risky type pick guys like Mecca and Dane are always looking for and calling Pioli a coward for not taking. Only difference is that they was HIGH risk, high reward. The risk isn't incredibly high, a 4th and 5th, but the reward could be great.

Maybe they like the Jags pick at #10

WildTurkey 04-23-2010 09:15 PM
Moeaki is a better TE prospect than Cottam IMO...... he's a good reciever when healthy solid all around

Brock 04-23-2010 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6707174)
How do you feel about the pick Brock?

Personally I think this is the risky type pick guys like Mecca and Dane are always looking for and calling Pioli a coward for not taking. Only difference is that they was HIGH risk, high reward. The risk isn't incredibly high, a 4th and 5th, but the reward could be great.
Pioli obviously loves the guy and probably knows him inside out through Ferentz. I'm willing to wait until the first preseason game before I start calling him a piece of shit.

JohnnyV13 04-23-2010 09:15 PM
What is everyone complaining about? Replacing sean ryan was one of our critical needs.

:banghead:

Lanning 04-23-2010 09:15 PM
Hey dirk, you ever get tired of going of saying "****ING"? You said it 6 times in one comment, be creative every once in a while! geez.

Anyway, is there really a position where we couldn't use an upgrade? Maybe kicker and punter but that's about it. So I have no problem with picking players that can do multiple things (McCluster, Arenas). They were both great college players and who says they can't be solid NFL players? dirk digler?

I had no clue who that TE from iowa is and I still don't know how to say his last name, but for crying out loud! He obviously has talent and potential or he wouldn't have been drafted. Give him a shot before you call for him to be hung!

Frosty 04-23-2010 09:17 PM
I don't mind most of the actual players taken. I just don't think they line up with the Chiefs' biggest needs and they negate a lot of picks from last year.

notorious 04-23-2010 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnnyV13 (Post 6707191)
What is everyone complaining about? Replacing sean ryan was one of our critical needs.

:banghead:
It's trading up to pick an injury prone player that has everybody pissed.


If you were being sarcastic, my response is : Ha, ha.

warpaint* 04-23-2010 09:18 PM
Multiple concussions coming into the league is the scariest part to me, nevermind the various other gimpy parts of his body.

dirk digler 04-23-2010 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 6707151)
Let's get real, you're basing your opinion of this TE you never heard of before on a blurb you read about him in the draft thread right after the pick.
I watched a few Iowa games this year including IIRC the Orange Bowl where he played pretty well. If he is healthy is a good player but that is his problem he doesn't.

And I sure in hell wouldn't give up our 4th and one of our 5th to move up and get the guy when we have pressing needs in our front 7.

soundmind 04-23-2010 09:21 PM
Selecting Moeaki was not the issue, he's a quality player that's just had some nagging issues staying on the field. Hopefully those aren't the kinds of things that repeat.

However, trading back into the 3rd for him was unnecessary, and the most glaring need on this team has become underlined, italicized, and highlighted....NOSE TACKLE.

penchief 04-23-2010 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dirk digler (Post 6707120)
I am normally a calm and nice guy especially to noobs so stfu.

I am pissed because we gave up 2 ****ING DRAFT picks for an injured TE. JFC
We gave up ONE draft pick, not TWO. We traded two for one. We turned our fourth into a third at the cost of a fifth. If you're going to bitch at least get it right.

Lanning 04-23-2010 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6707227)
We gave up ONE draft pick, not TWO. We traded two for one. We turned our fourth into a third at the cost of a fifth. If you're going to bitch at least get it right.
+1, penchief

Just be thankful we have a pro team on KC, unlike Los Angelas ROFL

dirk digler 04-23-2010 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6707227)
We gave up ONE draft pick, not TWO. We traded two for one. We turned our fourth into a third at the cost of a fifth. If you're going to bitch at least get it right.
Good point I was wrong.

Marco Polo 04-23-2010 09:45 PM
Moeaki is the most complete tight end to ever come from Iowa. He can block, catch, and he has speed. It will be interesting to see what Weis does with him.
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notorious 04-23-2010 09:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 6707332)
Moeaki is the most complete tight end to ever come from Iowa. He can block, catch, and he has speed. It will be interesting to see what Weis does with him.
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Once again, can they keep Humpty Dumpty together?

aturnis 04-23-2010 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by soundmind (Post 6707217)
Selecting Moeaki was not the issue, he's a quality player that's just had some nagging issues staying on the field. Hopefully those aren't the kinds of things that repeat.

However, trading back into the 3rd for him was unnecessary, and the most glaring need on this team has become underlined, italicized, and highlighted....NOSE TACKLE.
The team has Shaun Smith. They are obviously comfortable with him clogging the middle. Then there has been talk of Dorsey playing NT, my guess is that on 3rd down, he'd come in to get us some penetration up the middle and hopefully push the QB to Hali and Vrabel/Studebaker.

So there's that, and maybe they just weren't too impressed with any of these guys?

TRR 04-23-2010 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 6707332)
Moeaki is the most complete tight end to ever come from Iowa. He can block, catch, and he has speed. It will be interesting to see what Weis does with him.
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Uh not even close. Dallas Clark was better in EVERY phase of the game than Moeaki was, and I'd argue that Scott Chandler was a better blocker and a better target in the redzone than Moeaki. Moeaki is a decent player when healthy, but I could go on and on about better TE's that have come out of Iowa.
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KChiefs1 04-23-2010 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6706884)
This is by far the worst pick of the draft for the Chiefs.
A total POS pick.

An Iowa TE?!?!?!?!?! Holy Shit what a friggin' draft!:cuss:

The Chiefs are now officially the laughingstock of the NFL.ROFL

johnny961 04-23-2010 10:28 PM
Hi all, noob here. I was okay with our draft until this pick. Moving up and losing picks to draft anybody at any position with injury issues like this is a mistake IMHO. And this kid doesn't just have one or two injuries, he has shown a pattern over his entire college career of being injury prone. I can really see the need for a TE with good hands and good blocking ability, but these skills do no good on the bench. I may be dead wrong here but I think we reached entirely too far here.

notorious 04-23-2010 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by johnny961 (Post 6707527)
Hi all, noob here. I was okay with our draft until this pick. Moving up and losing picks to draft anybody at any position with injury issues like this is a mistake IMHO. And this kid doesn't just have one or two injuries, he has shown a pattern over his entire college career of being injury prone. I can really see the need for a TE with good hands and good blocking ability, but these skills do no good on the bench. I may be dead wrong here but I think we reached entirely too far here.
Respect people nOOb and you shall receive respect.

As for your post, I agree.

BWillie 04-23-2010 10:50 PM
I kinda think it's funny when guys get bent out of shape about the draft. It's all a crap shoot anyway. There is no certainty to it. There are going to be at least 20 guys taken tomorrow that will be in a pro bowl.

I understand if you are upset about Moeaki because of injury concerns, but outside of that, he is a complete TE. I don't know a guy w/ better hands, and he has great athletic ability. Obviously chances of him being anywhere near Tony Gonzalez small, but he's going to start from day one and be a huge upgrade.

aturnis 04-23-2010 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 6706823)
They gave up their fourth rounder pick and their first fifth round pick this year for Moeaki.
Actually they gave up their LAST 5th rounder. Gave up 144, still have 136 and 142.

aturnis 04-23-2010 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6707471)
A total POS pick.

An Iowa TE?!?!?!?!?! Holy Shit what a friggin' draft!:cuss:

The Chiefs are now officially the laughingstock of the NFL.ROFL
So you are saying you know nothing....got it.

Frankie 04-23-2010 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Iowanian (Post 6706819)
If this is true, I'm happy. Moeaki is an excellent pass catcher and not a bad blocker.
Alas a bit injury prone. But I did like this pick.

RustShack 04-23-2010 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 6707626)
I kinda think it's funny when guys get bent out of shape about the draft. It's all a crap shoot anyway. There is no certainty to it. There are going to be at least 20 guys taken tomorrow that will be in a pro bowl.

I understand if you are upset about Moeaki because of injury concerns, but outside of that, he is a complete TE. I don't know a guy w/ better hands, and he has great athletic ability. Obviously chances of him being anywhere near Tony Gonzalez small, but he's going to start from day one and be a huge upgrade.
Croyle is a more complete QB than Cassel.

notorious 04-23-2010 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6707674)
Croyle is a more complete QB than Cassel.
Until he breaks.



He throws a beautiful ball, though. I wish he could stay healthy.

Frankie 04-23-2010 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6706864)
Didn't Ferantz say this was the best TE hes ever coached? That would include Dallas Clark.
He did say that.

Frankie 04-23-2010 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lanning (Post 6706935)
I've been a Chiefs fan for my whole life and I'm surprised how arrogant/stupid some of you guys have been about these draft pick. We didn't "reach" for anybody. McCluster was going to go to Philly with the next pick if KC didn't take him, Arenas was slotted to go anywhere from late 2nd to early 3rd so not much of a reach there either.

Moeaki looks like a player that will help out immediately with the passing game. If he stays healthy I think he will be good for us. The guard from Illinois is the guard of the future after Waters retires/or leaves. McCluster and Arenas will immediately help out special teams along with their respective positions.

So for the guys who insist on being pessimistic about every pick the Chiefs make, get over yourselves. Sure we all have opinions on who the Chiefs should pick but this has gotten a bit out of hand. I didn't come to this site to hear Chiefs fans acting like 4rd graders about every move Pioli and Haley make.

-Lanning (Pioli's mom)
FYP

RustShack 04-23-2010 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 6707679)
Until he breaks.



He throws a beautiful ball, though. I wish he could stay healthy.
Thats my point. I know Moeaki is the best TE on our roster. But, like Croyle who is the best QB on our roster, he can't stay healthy long enough to play.

KChiefs1 04-23-2010 11:10 PM
Hernandez of Florida & Pita of BYU would have been better picks.

BWillie 04-23-2010 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6707712)
Thats my point. I know Moeaki is the best TE on our roster. But, like Croyle who is the best QB on our roster, he can't stay healthy long enough to play.
As sad as it is, I don't know if I believe that Croyle is the best QB on this team. The biggest arm, yeah. But he's looked like shit, just as much as Cassel has. Say what you want about the Patriots system, but Cassel had a good year and didn't have much around him last year. I'll be the first one to bitch if Cassel is still terrible after this year.

KChiefs1 04-23-2010 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by aturnis (Post 6707636)
So you are saying you know nothing....got it.
Just call em as I see em...sorry I hurt your Hawkeye heart but you should know better than anyone what a turd Moaki really is huh?

KChiefs1 04-23-2010 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by RustShack (Post 6707712)
I know Moeaki is the best TE on our roster.
That's just sad.:(

RustShack 04-23-2010 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6707758)
That's just sad.:(
Pioli drafts and misses on TE's every year. Its the Patriot way.

aturnis 04-23-2010 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 6707758)
That's just sad.:(
How's that? The guy is a baller. He plays the position more like a big WR than a TE. IF he can stay healthy, you WILL be proven wrong. It is an if, but so is Sam Bradford.


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