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prhom 05-02-2010 02:10 PM

That's no different from a regular business. Employees aren't supposed to talk to the press as a representative of the company. Only PR and executives get to do that. If you give an interview to the press without approval you're going to get fired. Sports teams are more the exception than the rule when it comes to "employees" giving interviews. We just take it for granted because it's always been like that with athletes.

DaneMcCloud 05-02-2010 02:17 PM

I normally enjoy reading Whitlock's columns but Jason, this was horrible. You can't have it both ways.

You say that Weis yelled at a rookie, yet it was so utterly forgettable you don't even know what was said.

You can't state that Pioli is adhering to the Parcells Philosophy of a quiet, tight and secretive organization, then turn around and claim that they're following that said philosophy because Pioli's lost and confused.

And, comparing a question asked at The Combines by Jeff Ireland in no way, shape or form related to Scott Pioli and the Chiefs.

You're being intellectually dishonest pretending that you didn't read Jim Trotter's piece (of SI & San Diego Tribune's) on Jeff Ireland and the Dolphins, where Bryant stated that his mother worked for his father, who just happened to be a pimp, to further your agenda.

And finally, who did Jeff Ireland work for before joining Parcells in Dallas?

Oh yeah, Carl Peterson and the Kansas City Chiefs.

kysirsoze 05-02-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam (Post 6731131)
He's awesome on Twitter. Definitely worth following.


Good enough for me.



Following.

The Bad Guy 05-02-2010 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 6731124)
I have met Carl before and from the some of the Chiefs front office staff I know its the true. Pioli is your typical asshole New Englander.

You've never met Pioli, but want to generalize based on what you read in the media? Just because Carl Peterson shook your hand once doesn't mean he's a "nice" guy.

I know a lot of people who have connections to Pioli and they insist he's a really great guy.

chiefzilla1501 05-02-2010 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6731164)
You've never met Pioli, but want to generalize based on what you read in the media? Just because Carl Peterson shook your hand once doesn't mean he's a "nice" guy.

I know a lot of people who have connections to Pioli and they insist he's a really great guy.

I've heard the same guy. Very nice guy and surprisingly very shy.

milkman 05-02-2010 02:58 PM

I'm going to echo what others have said.

I don't care if he's a bigger asshole than I am, as long as he wins.

And I pride myself on being the best asshole I can be.

ChiefsCountry 05-02-2010 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 6731164)
You've never met Pioli, but want to generalize based on what you read in the media? Just because Carl Peterson shook your hand once doesn't mean he's a "nice" guy.

I know a lot of people who have connections to Pioli and they insist he's a really great guy.

**** the media I went straight to people I know personally in the Chiefs front office. And I know the majority of them. Hell I have met Peterson and the Hunts on numerous occassions. Vermeil was the biggest one who sucks the penis of all time though. I could really give a rat's ass to what Whitlock or whoever else in the KC media think of him.

Sam Hall 05-02-2010 03:40 PM

This article would have been better if it were written by someone other than Jason Whitlock. It's an interesting topic if you're in the media. However, the average fan doesn't care. Journalists and PR people have a healthy disrespect for each other.

HemiEd 05-02-2010 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by penchief (Post 6731076)
Whitlock should be fired for incompetence. But I suppose the Star has its reasons for employing such a petty hack to begin with.

He has played both sides of the fence lately, so he will stay employed.

Same old shit, different day.

JD10367 05-02-2010 04:47 PM

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Saturday afternoon, late in the Chiefs’ second minicamp practice of the day, offensive coordinator Charlie Weis screamed at one of his rookies.
For those unfamiliar, Weis has the mouth of a drunken sailor, reportedly.

buddha 05-02-2010 04:54 PM

Who gives a damn about Pioli, Whitlock or any of the rest of them. Win games you stupid bastards.

OnTheWarpath15 05-02-2010 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 6731344)
For those unfamiliar, Weis has the mouth of a drunken sailor, reportedly.

He'll fit right in with the HC.

keg in kc 05-02-2010 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6731381)
He'll fit right in with the HC.

I knew I was in the wrong line I work. I definitely have the mouth to be a coach.

Anyong Bluth 05-02-2010 05:36 PM

who cares... ? It's their organization, & companies can set their rules regarding how open they want to be with the media. It's a 2 way street & if they don't work with the media then they shouldn't be shocked if they don't get good publicity in return, so I think they'd be smart enough to not shun reporters who do stories on their team- which are read by fans who fill seats & spend $$. While the team's not winning it may look bad & is not good PR, if they do start winning & have a SB or 2 to show for, no one will give 2 shits & Arrowhead will still sell out regardless of how secretive Pioli or anyone is. Scott could take a steamy dump on JW's Gate's platter & most fans would little care if he makes them a winner, & drafts well. The Pats are secretive & everyone blows them left & right bc they've been successful & won hardware. Now maybe it's not the best thing to do in KC, but really putting a winner on the field is what matters way more.

crazycoffey 05-02-2010 05:44 PM

Whitless as usual,

Yes jason, because the NFL has the most "repressive policies regarding media access to their players" those players can no longer remain within the social norms and public laws. The NFL exects "drunk with power" have caused chaos among the rest of mortal society.

Thank god that Jason in his flowing cape, majestic pen with the outerworldly power of omnipotence, and the sewn on capital "M" on his chest is here just in the nick of time to save the NFL players from it's seedy, greedy, overlords like Dr Piolivel.:Pinky:

KCwolf 05-02-2010 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6730545)
Maybe Haley is just a great actor, but he seems like a big ol asshole to me. I don't think he is faking anything.


and ur problem is what?

rad 05-02-2010 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6730832)
His premise is off, IMO.

Pioli didn't bring over this operation because he's a dictator with insecurity issues, he brought it over because he bought into the Patriot propaganda model so deeply that he has no critical thinking ability wrt: its strengths and weaknesses.

That's why this is such a paint-by-numbers approach.

I would lean more toward the fact that all the media is to players is a distraction. Drum up some some shit or get a player to say something inflammatory to sell papers or feed a column.

**** that. Concentrate on doing your job that you get paid millions to do and learn how to win football games.

Silock 05-02-2010 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6730832)
His premise is off, IMO.

Pioli didn't bring over this operation because he's a dictator with insecurity issues, he brought it over because he bought into the Patriot propaganda model so deeply that he has no critical thinking ability wrt: its strengths and weaknesses.

That's why this is such a paint-by-numbers approach.

If we can paint-by-numbers our way to some championships, I'm okay with that.

I have to say that I'm not seeing a ton of evidence of it being successful, though. We'll see.

Chiefaholic 05-02-2010 09:02 PM

I read about half of Twitlock's article and skimmed through the remainder. Nothing even remotely interesting to be gained from reading that.

Consistent1 05-02-2010 09:46 PM

No one here has really made much out of the reporters getting locked in a room.That is pretty bad to not even have access to restrooms.I assume that must be true.They can't control their own facilites well enough to not do that?What if people need to step out to take a call from bosses,family,etc?Whitlock may have blown that out of proprtion.I don't know. Coupled with apparently playing media favorites,this stuff does make a team with a terrible recent record look stupid.It is a personal beef type article but makes some interesting points.Like many have said in this thread,they need a serious improvement on the field this year.People wouldn't even bother to read that article if the team was a winner.Pioli and Haley step up the product this year and the heat will go away.It will be fun to see how the rest of the year goes.
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Chiefnj2 05-03-2010 08:03 AM

I only skimmed through the article, so the only thing I have to say is that if you are a small market team that has 10 wins over its last 3 years, you should be going out of your way to be fan and media friendly.

Telling the media what they can, and can't say, is a huge mistake.

gblowfish 05-03-2010 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 6730693)
Pioli = Castro :facepalm:

Not true!
In Cuba, you can afford season tickets!

BTW: Fatlock is now writing on the KC Star's Op Ed Page. I'm sure he'll blame this whole access thing on THE MAN keeping him down.

Or blame it on Kevin Keitzman.

Or both.

OnTheWarpath15 05-03-2010 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 6731966)
I only skimmed through the article, so the only thing I have to say is that if you are a small market team that has 10 wins over its last 3 years, you should be going out of your way to be fan and media friendly.

Telling the media what they can, and can't say, is a huge mistake.

A bit puzzling, to say the least.

Speaking of fan friendly, it took over 3 days for someone at Arrowhead to call Nzoner back about group tickets for the Bash.

3 days.

For a team that needs to sell 40k tickets a game to fill a new stadium.

Unreal.

Reerun_KC 05-03-2010 08:50 AM

ROFL at Whitlock... What a jilted lover...



I am thankful that the Chiefs wont give him access.... Thank you Pioli!

KCUnited 05-03-2010 08:59 AM

A lot of people don't care until we're sitting at 3-6 and Pioli gives an interview and we have a 15 page thread on why the interviewer is lofting softballs for him to crush out of the park.

crazycoffey 05-03-2010 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 6731420)
Whitless as usual,

Yes jason, because the NFL has the most "repressive policies regarding media access to their players" those players can no longer remain within the social norms and public laws. The NFL exects "drunk with power" have caused chaos among the rest of mortal society.

Thank god that Jason in his flowing cape, majestic pen with the outerworldly power of omnipotence, and the sewn on capital "M" on his chest is here just in the nick of time to save the NFL players from it's seedy, greedy, overlords like Dr Piolivel.:Pinky:


was this only funny to me because I'm still on drugs?


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