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Los Pollos Hermanos 07-30-2010 12:02 PM

Adam_Schefter

Hail to the Chief (and the highest-paid safety in NFL history): Eric Berry's deal: 6 years, $60 million max, including $34 million gtd.

Sannyasi 07-30-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6907334)
Berry has more star potential than anyone we've drafted since _______ ?

Glenn Dorsey

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas (Post 6907367)
Adam_Schefter

Hail to the Chief (and the highest-paid safety in NFL history): Eric Berry's deal: 6 years, $60 million max, including $34 million gtd.

should be the last year of this

rookie draft slotting here we come!!

KCrockaholic 07-30-2010 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas (Post 6907367)
Adam_Schefter

Hail to the Chief (and the highest-paid safety in NFL history): Eric Berry's deal: 6 years, $60 million max, including $34 million gtd.

Nice! 6 years is great!

Congrats Eric Berry and Pioli for pulling the trigger.

kcxiv 07-30-2010 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 6907340)
Tony?

honestly, he has more....potential...

eh, Derrick Thomas is the guy that made me follow the Chiefs. I honestly dont think a Tony Gonzales would and i am Hispanic. lol


Derrick Thomas was something i tell you, then again i am different, i prefer defense over offense in football and A pitchers duel over a slugfest in baseball.

The Franchise 07-30-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907370)
should be the last year of this

rookie draft slotting here we come!!

One thing we can agree on.

This shit is getting out of hand.

The Bad Guy 07-30-2010 12:14 PM

Honestly, Ed Reed is going to pitch a fit tonight in Baltimore.

I'm not complaining one bit about this deal.

He's a gamechanging asskicker who we desperately needed.

Skyy God 07-30-2010 12:16 PM

Now on to the next question..... will he beat out Jon McGraw?

penguinz 07-30-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pittsie (Post 6907401)
Now on to the next question..... will he beat off Jon McGraw?

That is just plain wrong. Why would you say such a thing?

Dayze 07-30-2010 12:23 PM

I can't wait to hear reports on this guy.
can't wait to see a pre-season game.

and obviously, can't wait for the season to start!

greg63 07-30-2010 12:30 PM

Think he'll be in camp today?

Smed1065 07-30-2010 12:35 PM

Nice~

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg63 (Post 6907419)
Think he'll be in camp today?

yes, he said he is on his way

he probably won't practice but he should be there.

Gonzo 07-30-2010 12:47 PM

Didn't see this anywhere:

Per espn.com:

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Safety Eric Berry, the fifth overall pick in last spring's draft, and the Kansas City Chiefs have agreed to a deal, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

The deal is for six years and worth a maximum $60 million, of which $34 million is guaranteed, sources said.

A spokesman for the Chiefs said until the club announced something, there is nothing official.

But Berry tweeted Friday: "Bout to head to St. Joe!!! Aka the deals done."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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-King- 07-30-2010 12:47 PM

@berry1429 Fu%^ just failed the conditioning test!
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Sofa King 07-30-2010 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6907449)
@berry1429 Fu%^ just failed the conditioning test!
Posted via Mobile Device

heh.

greg63 07-30-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907441)
yes, he said he is on his way

he probably won't practice but he should be there.

Cool, I didn't know if that meant he would be traveling there today, tomorrow or next week, but I guess for 34 million gtd. he'd better get there today. :D

Sure-Oz 07-30-2010 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gonzo (Post 6907448)
Didn't see this anywhere:

Per espn.com:

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- Safety Eric Berry, the fifth overall pick in last spring's draft, and the Kansas City Chiefs have agreed to a deal, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

The deal is for six years and worth a maximum $60 million, of which $34 million is guaranteed, sources said.

A spokesman for the Chiefs said until the club announced something, there is nothing official.

But Berry tweeted Friday: "Bout to head to St. Joe!!! Aka the deals done."

Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.
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Highest paid safety in the league

Chief of State 07-30-2010 01:11 PM

CHAMPIONSHIP!
GO CHIEFS!!

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by greg63 (Post 6907460)
Cool, I didn't know if that meant he would be traveling there today, tomorrow or next week, but I guess for 34 million gtd. he'd better get there today. :D

of course we don't know for sure but i assume he wants to sign his contract ASAP and that would lead to being "on his way" to st. joe

he might even sign the contract in st. joe

Chief of State 07-30-2010 01:15 PM

:clap::clap::clap:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907487)
of course we don't know for sure but i assume he wants to sign his contract ASAP and that would lead to being "on his way" to st. joe

he might even sign the contract in st. joe

:clap::clap::clap:
ESPN says he was in KC last night.

Pants 07-30-2010 01:16 PM

Highest paid safety in the League.

keg in kc 07-30-2010 01:17 PM

****ing tightwad Hunt never opens the purse strings for anybody.

(sweet!)

Fritz88 07-30-2010 01:19 PM

Everyone on time to training camp. A good sign.

Coogs 07-30-2010 01:25 PM

No Berry yet...
Eric Berry wasn't on the practice field when the Chiefs started around 2 p.m. Friday.

http://chiefsblog.kansascity.com/?q=node/1351

RedThat 07-30-2010 02:09 PM

Good stuff.

Even if he misses a day, no biggie.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2010 02:09 PM

That's great news. Here's hoping everyone makes it through camp healthy :grovel:

Dante84 07-30-2010 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6907571)
That's great news. Here's hoping everyone makes it through the playoffs and superbowl healthy :grovel:

FYP

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2010 02:11 PM

Thank God Pioli doesn't think that it's important to have the "Tough SOB Negotiator" tag. Get these ****ers paid and get them on the field, ASAP.

Big improvement over Carl's posturing.

Coach 07-30-2010 02:11 PM

Good news.

veist 07-30-2010 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 6907473)
Highest paid safety in the league

Could be worse, could be giving that kind of money to Rolle instead like the Giants.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2010 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 6907573)
FYP

While we're talking about completely unrealistic scenarios, can I have a threesome with Megan Fox and her clone?

RedThat 07-30-2010 02:13 PM

Its amazing how the kid is the highest paid safety in the league and he hasn't even played a down in the pros yet.

Coach 07-30-2010 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6907580)
While we're talking about completely unrealistic scenarios, can I have a threesome with Megan Fox and her clone?

Denied.

Anything else?

Pants 07-30-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6907584)
Its amazing how the kid is the highest paid safety in the league and he hasn't even played a down in the pros yet.

Yeah. Such is the way with the NFL. Possibly the most upside down system in the world.

Fansy the Famous Bard 07-30-2010 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6907590)
Yeah. Such is the way with the NFL. Possibly the most upside down system in the world.

Over Baseball?

DeezNutz 07-30-2010 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6907594)
Over Baseball?

The draft? Yes, by miles.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2010 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6907594)
Over Baseball?

Are you serious? Aside from their initial signing bonus, baseball has the best young player compensation in pro sports. It's the FA that's out of whack.

DeezNutz 07-30-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6907598)
Are you serious? Aside from their initial signing bonus, baseball has the best young player compensation in pro sports. It's the FA that's out of whack.

Even the initial bonuses are minuscule by comparison.

RedThat 07-30-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6907590)
Yeah. Such is the way with the NFL. Possibly the most upside down system in the world.

And I'd like to add, not just the NFL, even in the NBA, NHL, etc. But on the other hand, sometimes it turns out for the best w/ guys like Lebron James and Sidney Crosby whom us as fans, media depend on for true entertainment and to be the next generation of stars.

KCrockaholic 07-30-2010 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6907580)
While we're talking about completely unrealistic scenarios, can I have a threesome with Megan Fox and her husband?

Ewww.

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 6907594)
Over Baseball?

in baseball they get millions before even making a major league roster

then there is also the guaranteed contract in baseball which leads to players coasting for much of their career.

rookie slotting should be in the next CBA ... football still has the best system.

DeezNutz 07-30-2010 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907606)
in baseball they get millions before even making a major league roster

then there is also the guaranteed contract in baseball which leads to players coasting for much of their career.

rookie slotting should be in the next CBA ... football still has the best system.

Technically, Berry hasn't made a roster, either. The baseball slotting system is far, far more in line than the NFL's model.

The NBA is the best.

-King- 07-30-2010 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6907604)
And I'd like to add, not just the NFL, even in the NBA, NHL, etc. But on the other hand, sometimes it turns out for the best w/ guys like Lebron James and Sidney Crosby whom us as fans, media depend on for true entertainment and to be the next generation of stars.

Eh, like baseball, the draft part of basketball is pretty good. People get a set amount of money so there's no ridiculous contracts like rookies in the NFL.

dirk digler 07-30-2010 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 6907574)
Thank God Pioli doesn't think that it's important to have the "Tough SOB Negotiator" tag. Get these ****ers paid and get them on the field, ASAP.

Big improvement over Carl's posturing.

Can I frame this quote?

RedThat 07-30-2010 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907606)
in baseball they get millions before even making a major league roster

then there is also the guaranteed contract in baseball which leads to players coasting for much of their career.

rookie slotting should be in the next CBA ... football still has the best system.

They do have a good system, but, I don't agree with giving a #1 overall pick a ton of money when he hasn't played a down in the NFL yet. Thats just me.

I only say that because there are no guarantees. We've seem either boom or busts. If the guy pans out, great. If not, as an organization, the best prospect coming out of the draft that you depend on to make your team better, can set you back from both a personnel and financial standpoint. Kinda puts organizations in a bit of a landslide.

I'd like to see that economical aspect of the game change. Im more in the thought of, give rookies a certain flat base salary and reward them afterwards based on what they do later on in their careers.

BigMeatballDave 07-30-2010 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 6907270)
Hold on one second.....I need to send a text message to OTW58 and Mecca to come defend me.
:rolleyes:

ROFL

BigMeatballDave 07-30-2010 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907234)
Pioli sucks /4hmen
Pioli's drafts suck /4hmen
everything Pioli has done since he came here sucks /4hmen
i just wanna bitch like a little girl/4hmen

LMAO This 4horsemen stuff is hilarious. I understand why some of the shit they say irritates you, but you complained about McCluster. Just saying...:)

RedThat 07-30-2010 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 6907611)
Eh, like baseball, the draft part of basketball is pretty good. People get a set amount of money so there's no ridiculous contracts like rookies in the NFL.

Yes I agree. However, keep this in mind, a guy like Lebron or Crosby signs a deal with lets say Nikey, and instantly off the bat these guys are millionaires. Without even playing. Its unbelievable I tell you

Who knows what endorsement contracts are like. It wouldn't surprise me if they're every bit outrageous.

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BCD (Post 6907641)
LMAO This 4horsemen stuff is hilarious. I understand why some of the shit they say irritates you, but you complained about McCluster. Just saying...:)

so you equate me "not liking the philosophy of our 2nd round picks" as being the same as the never ending,daily pioli/cassel/draft attacking bitchfest? Really?

wow

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2010 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907606)
in baseball they get millions before even making a major league roster

then there is also the guaranteed contract in baseball which leads to players coasting for much of their career.

rookie slotting should be in the next CBA ... football still has the best system.

Most first round draft picks in MLB will sign for less than 3 million. After that, they are going to make 400K a year for their first several years as a pro. Most guys don't even make their big money until they are 25-27, unless you hit Super Two status.

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6907609)
Technically, Berry hasn't made a roster, either. The baseball slotting system is far, far more in line than the NFL's model.

The NBA is the best.

actually i was including the entire salary/contract/draft system

there really isn't an official slot system in baseball either ... occasionally players try and bust out of the "standard" dollars.

if you are talking about draft only then the NBA is the best.

'Hamas' Jenkins 07-30-2010 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907652)
so you equate me "not liking the philosophy of our 2nd round picks" as being the same as the never ending,daily pioli/cassel/draft attacking bitchfest? Really?

wow

Who the **** is bitching other than you?

greg63 07-30-2010 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907487)
of course we don't know for sure but i assume he wants to sign his contract ASAP and that would lead to being "on his way" to st. joe

he might even sign the contract in st. joe

As long as the deal gets done sooner rather than later.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief of State (Post 6907488)
:clap::clap::clap:

:clap::clap::clap:
ESPN says he was in KC last night.

A hop skip and a jump away. :D

Lonewolf Ed 07-30-2010 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish (Post 6907248)
I love the WTF look on that kid's face in the lower left corner!

It is the look of childhood coming to an abrupt end! Poor kid.

DeezNutz 07-30-2010 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907659)
if you are talking about draft only then the NBA is the best.

Yeah, I'm talking about the draft only.

NBA. Then MLB.................................................................and then the NFL.

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-30-2010 02:57 PM

This is old news. Someone had already started a thread this morning that Berry would sign today.

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 6907681)
This is old news. Someone had already started a thread this morning that Berry would sign today.

which was a repost from the thread yesterday that a Berry deal was close.

:D

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-30-2010 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907690)
which was a repost from the thread yesterday that a Berry deal was close.

:D

:doh!:

OnTheWarpath15 07-30-2010 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsfansofDallas (Post 6907367)
Adam_Schefter

Hail to the Chief (and the highest-paid safety in NFL history): Eric Berry's deal: 6 years, $60 million max, including $34 million gtd.

Damn, I was pretty close. Good job by both sides to get his ass in here and working on time.


Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6893619)
If 5/55/33 isn't a "fair" enough deal, then he's not the character guy I thought he was.

That's basically what Tyson Jackson got last year at 3.

Less per year but more guaranteed.


Jobomb 07-30-2010 03:10 PM

Coming from a Broncos' and Tennessee fan, Eric Berry is the most dominant player I have ever had the pleasure of watching. Could he bust? Sure, anyone can bust. But I'd put money on the hall of fame.

I'm actually thinking of coming to Kansas City for a Chief's game this year. The girlfriend asked if she had to wear Broncos' gear, I told her no, as long as it has to do with Eric Berry.

DeezNutz 07-30-2010 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6907704)
Damn, I was pretty close. Good job by both sides to get his ass in here and working on time.

quit bitching. ****.

OnTheWarpath15 07-30-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6907707)
quit bitching. ****.

LMAO

Yeah, I just just defending Carr the other day as well.

Non-stop bitching.

ArrowheadHawk 07-30-2010 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobomb (Post 6907706)
Coming from a Broncos' and Tennessee fan, Eric Berry is the best and most dominant player I have ever had the pleasure of watching. Could he bust? Sure, anyone can bust. But I'd put money on the hall of fame.

I'm actually thinking of coming to Kansas City for a Chief's game this year. The girlfriend asked if she had to wear Broncos' gear, I told her no, as long as it has to do with Eric Berry.

:clap:

DeezNutz 07-30-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 6907709)
LMAO

Yeah, I just just defending Carr the other day as well.

Non-stop bitching.

Nothing worse than a bitchy True Fan. ;)

OnTheWarpath15 07-30-2010 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 6907715)
Nothing worse than a bitchy True Fan. ;)

ROFL

Hog's Gone Fishin 07-30-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobomb (Post 6907706)
Coming from a Broncos' and Tennessee fan, Eric Berry is the most dominant player I have ever had the pleasure of watching. Could he bust? Sure, anyone can bust. But I'd put money on the hall of fame.

I'm actually thinking of coming to Kansas City for a Chief's game this year. The girlfriend asked if she had to wear Broncos' gear, I told her no, as long as it has to do with Eric Berry.

You might as well give up on the Doncos and come to the Chiefs. You can clearly see which way both franchises are headed.

Deberg_1990 07-30-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jobomb (Post 6907706)
But I'd put money on the hall of fame.

Thats a little bold...there are not many safetys in the Hall for one.

But if he has a nice pro bowl laden 10 year career, i will be happy.

sedated 07-30-2010 03:38 PM

The NBA has the most fair system when it comes to salaries, but I can't fukn stand all the trades. They shouldn't even say the team, just X player went Y overall.

The ticker on ESPN was a disaster during the NBA draft
"#15 (from Charlotte via Chicago) Drederick Tatum (rights traded to Miami via San Antonio)"

Pasta Little Brioni 07-30-2010 03:41 PM

:bravo:

kysirsoze 07-30-2010 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedThat (Post 6907628)
They do have a good system, but, I don't agree with giving a #1 overall pick a ton of money when he hasn't played a down in the NFL yet. Thats just me.

I only say that because there are no guarantees. We've seem either boom or busts. If the guy pans out, great. If not, as an organization, the best prospect coming out of the draft that you depend on to make your team better, can set you back from both a personnel and financial standpoint. Kinda puts organizations in a bit of a landslide.

I'd like to see that economical aspect of the game change. Im more in the thought of, give rookies a certain flat base salary and reward them afterwards based on what they do later on in their careers.

I think it's pretty fair to pay up for top rookies. These guys have already been working for free making a ton of money for the people in charge in college. Now they're moving to the NFL and putting their health on the line to make even more money for their bosses.

Of course, I think they should get paid what they're worth and all. I don't think it's the responsibility of the NFL to make up for the blatant exploitation the players go through in NCAA. But from a perspective of whether or not I think it's "right" for a rookie to get a big chunk of change, I am fine with it.

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907768)
I think it's pretty fair to pay up for top rookies. These guys have already been working for free making a ton of money for the people in charge in college. Now they're moving to the NFL and putting their health on the line to make even more money for their bosses.

Of course, I think they should get paid what they're worth and all. I don't think it's the responsibility of the NFL to make up for the blatant exploitation the players go through in NCAA. But from a perspective of whether or not I think it's "right" for a rookie to get a big chunk of change, I am fine with it.

wow ... i think that's a first

beer bacon 07-30-2010 03:44 PM

Should the really rich NFL players get more money, or should it go to the ultra rich owners? Why should I care?

Rooster 07-30-2010 03:45 PM

He's no Mike Brown...................................................I keed........I keed.........


Good work FO..:clap:

Pants 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6907776)
Should the really rich NFL players get more money, or should it go to the ultra rich owners? Why should I care?

It should go to the veterans who have proven themselves.

kysirsoze 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Laz (Post 6907770)
wow ... i think that's a first

Really? Cause I'm pretty sure Berry's pretty happy with the situation right now.:D

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beer bacon (Post 6907776)
Should the really rich NFL players get more money, or should it go to the ultra rich owners? Why should I care?

this isn't really about Owners vs Players ... this is about Rookie Player vs Veteran players.

the salary cap number is the same, it's just whether the money should be paid to draftees or saved for veterans

Mr. Laz 07-30-2010 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907782)
Really? Cause I'm pretty sure Berry's pretty happy with the situation right now.:D

heh

kysirsoze 07-30-2010 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Metrolike (Post 6907781)
It should go to the veterans who have proven themselves.

Like LJ?? It doesn't matter what stage someone's career is in. They are never a sure thing.

chiefzilla1501 07-30-2010 03:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 6907768)
I think it's pretty fair to pay up for top rookies. These guys have already been working for free making a ton of money for the people in charge in college. Now they're moving to the NFL and putting their health on the line to make even more money for their bosses.

Of course, I think they should get paid what they're worth and all. I don't think it's the responsibility of the NFL to make up for the blatant exploitation the players go through in NCAA. But from a perspective of whether or not I think it's "right" for a rookie to get a big chunk of change, I am fine with it.

Law students work pretty damn hard too. That doesn't mean that when they get out of law school, they get to make twice as much as a law firm partner. The fact that Matt Stafford is the second-highest paid QB in the NFL is beyond comprehension.


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