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BWillie 11-01-2010 01:18 PM

People that don't want Randy Moss have got to be kidding! Are you for real? You don't want Randy Moss? Why? He's no more bigger dbag than DBO. Man...pay this man his money, whatever he wants. Bring him in. We need a playmaking WR

Stinger 11-01-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7136143)
If he's picked up off of waivers, the team that does so has to pay the pro-rated remainder of his 6 mil salary.

Thanks.....

Spott 11-01-2010 01:18 PM

It's kind of funny that they'd cut him at the drop of a hat but Childress literally lets Favre hold this team hostage all off season, bends over backward to accomodate him and then doesn't have the balls to bench him when he's been playing like shit.

kysirsoze 11-01-2010 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7136125)
really?

history says otherwise....he's quit on every team he's ever played for....every single one

Not usually within the first season there and not if they're winning. That's all I want him for. I think we need someone like him to make a playoff run.

Chiefnj2 11-01-2010 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brainiac (Post 7136138)
All of you guys who think the Chiefs should immediately sign Randy Moss are going to be disappointed.

That's just what a young and improving team needs: a cancer in the clubhouse who takes plays off and has been doing it for years. :rolleyes:

2010

Moss 22 rec, 313 yards, 5 TD.

Chambers 7 rec, 76 yards, 0 TD.

I'll take the disgruntled guy who takes plays off.

BWillie 11-01-2010 01:19 PM

Did the Vikings decide they aren't going to make the playoffs and to cut their losses so they don't have to pay his salary? I don't get it. Why would you release him

The Franchise 11-01-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 7136154)
What is a waiver order?

It goes off of records......so we're one of the last teams to have a shot at him.

DJJasonp 11-01-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7136167)
Did the Vikings decide they aren't going to make the playoffs and to cut their losses so they don't have to pay his salary? I don't get it. Why would you release him

I think it was the brady/belichek lovefest Moss gave after the game yesterday and the press conference comments.

The Franchise 11-01-2010 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7136167)
Did the Vikings decide they aren't going to make the playoffs and to cut their losses so they don't have to pay his salary? I don't get it. Why would you release him

His comments after the game on Sunday.

JD10367 11-01-2010 01:22 PM

This is pretty damn funny.

We saw the Bengals/Pats opener, and then went to yesterday's game. I called my wife and said, "If he signs with the Jets, Fins, Packers, or Colts, we'll get to see Randy Moss in three different uniforms in Gillette this season." ROFL

mcaj22 11-01-2010 01:22 PM

spent the last how many years as a Chiefs fan seeing guys get cut and going

"yay! we are at the top of the waiver order! bring him in for a look"


feels ****ing good to be at the bottom, with the winning teams, knowing there's not a chance we get a guy like this lol.

JD10367 11-01-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7136175)
His comments after the game on Sunday.

Not sure Childress minded the Patriots lovefest as much as Moss's comments that he offered to help the Vikings with a game plan against New England by telling them stuff and he was supposedly ignored.

Frazod 11-01-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 7136159)
I wasn't even alive then...

Sucker. I was four! I remember it like it was yesterday!


And if you believe that.....

The Franchise 11-01-2010 01:23 PM

Honestly.....where is he going to go?

What team is going to want to take him on?

DJJasonp 11-01-2010 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7136181)
Not sure Childress minded the Patriots lovefest as much as Moss's comments that he offered to help the Vikings with a game plan against New England by telling them stuff and he was supposedly ignored.

and he did interviews with NE media, but not with Minn media....

RAIDER951 11-01-2010 01:24 PM

I think Moss did himself in last night during his PC. All the man love for BB and the Pats then he purportedly criticized the Vikings.

With Moss it's me me me. Don't think you guys need this kind of player. You're young, talented and in 1st place. Why throw a piece of bad meat into an otherwise good stew.

Rain Man 11-01-2010 01:24 PM

Maybe since he lost his bye week he wanted to get paid for that 17th game.

doomy3 11-01-2010 01:25 PM

Hell yeah, put a claim in.

ChiTown 11-01-2010 01:25 PM

To the Gulag!

Bwana 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie007 (Post 7136167)
Did the Vikings decide they aren't going to make the playoffs and to cut their losses so they don't have to pay his salary? I don't get it. Why would you release him

This may have been part of it?

http://www.macsfootballblog.com/2010...andy-moss.html

The guy is a walking cancer.

Re-acquired in October from the New England Patriots in exchange for a 2011 third-round pick, Moss caught 13 passes for 174 yards and two touchdowns in his second stint with the Vikings, who originally selected him with the 21st overall pick of the 1998 NFL Draft.

Moss caught one pass for 8 yards in Sunday's 28-18 loss to the Patriots, after which Moss made some critical comments about the Vikings while expressing his admiration for the Patriots' franchise.

"This is no disrespect to the Minnesota Vikings and their organization ... the captains, Wilfork, Tommy boy, Mayo...I'm forgetting somebody...Kevin Faulk. Man, I miss them guys," Moss said on Sunday night. "I miss the team. It was hard for me to come here and play. It's been an up and down roller-coaster emotionally all week. And then to be able to come in here and see those guys running plays that I know what they're doing and the sense that they had on the field, the running game. So I kind of know what type of feeling they have in that locker room, and I just want to be able to tell the guys that I miss the hell out of them, every last helmet in that locker room."

Because the traded deadline has passed, Moss is subject to the NFL's waiver system.

The 0-7 Buffalo Bills have top priority, followed by the Dallas Cowboys and Carolina Panthers (1-6), and 2-6 teams such as the San Francisco 49ers and Denver Broncos. Detroit, Cleveland, and Cincinnati are next in line, but are unlikely to add high-profile receiver at this point in the season.

The 3-5 San Diego Chargers, however, might have interest in adding Moss for their attempt to turn around another slow start to the season.

New England has the NFL's best record, and are therefore unlikely to be awarded Moss, should they put a claim in.

blaise 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 7136203)
To the Gulag!

Denver?

Graystoke 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

This is just a distraction from us getting onto the buisness of hating the Raiders

tk13 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

The ESPN guys were on him yesterday for quitting on routes, so I guess this isn't surprising. It sure is tantalizing, Haley has plenty of experience with diva WRs. And he could help. He could also be a circus that derails everything.
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DJJasonp 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

What's a funny scenario is....Belichek tells Moss...."we've got this sucker of a GM who wants to give us a 3rd rounder for you......can you play along for a couple weeks so we can get the pick.....then, you say a couple foolish things to get waived.....we'll see you back in about a month!"

the Talking Can 11-01-2010 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7136163)
Not usually within the a)first season there and b)not if they're winning.

a) Raiders/Vikings.
b) Vikings/Pats.

Frazod 11-01-2010 01:27 PM

Prick? Check. Cancer? Check. But he's got familiarity with Cassel and our NE-ish system and could pay dividends immediately. With a true deep threat who can easily adjust to Cassel's shitty downfield throws and our running game, we instantly become a force on offense and honest-to-God contenders.

If we can find a way, we have to do it.

Rausch 11-01-2010 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RAIDER951 (Post 7136194)
I think Moss did himself in last night during his PC. All the man love for BB and the Pats then he purportedly criticized the Vikings.

With Moss it's me me me. Don't think you guys need this kind of player. You're young, talented and in 1st place. Why throw a piece of bad meat into an otherwise good stew.

It's worked before...

Ralphy Boy 11-01-2010 01:27 PM

I really don't think we have much of a chance in the playoffs anyway so why not bring him in? At least he has something to play for here, in a winning team.

Thig Lyfe 11-01-2010 01:27 PM

Childress is the stupidest mother****er to ever coach in the NFL. But at least he's got his looks.

dirk digler 11-01-2010 01:28 PM

We should put in a claim but we won't get him.

DJ's left nut 11-01-2010 01:28 PM

I hate anyone that doesn't want to sign him.

It won't happen because I doubt he's at all interested in catching ducks from Cassel again.

That said, I simply don't see how you wouldn't bring him in. He was a pretty solid citizen in NE for several seasons when placed in a steady environment with an assertive, confident head coach. I see no reason that he wouldn't be a similar player in a similar situation here in KC.

He'd wear out his welcome in a season or two, but he'd be gold for this year and next, IMO.

With the piles of steaming horseshit we currently line up at WR....well, like I said - I hate you if you don't think bringing him in would be worth the trouble.

Frazod 11-01-2010 01:30 PM

If he ends up in San Diego that would suck massive balls. Rivers to Moss? Shit, I don't even want to think about it.

Dave Lane 11-01-2010 01:31 PM

Shit If Haley can get him motivated I'd be all over it. With the sad sack WR we have other than Bowe he'd be awesome. OK now reality kicks in and he's a POS that is unlikely to change his spots so we should pass but damn across from Bowe if he was motivated furgetaboutit!

The Franchise 11-01-2010 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7136226)
If he ends up in San Diego that would suck massive balls. Rivers to Moss? Shit, I don't even want to think about it.

And then they get Jackson back.

3 WR set.

Moss - Jackson - Floyd. Those three with Gates at TE. ****.

Sofa King 11-01-2010 01:32 PM

At least when he was in minnesota he wasn't in the AFC West

Beef Supreme 11-01-2010 01:33 PM

Do not want the media circus that follows him.
Do not want the "me first" attitude.
Do not want a cancer in the locker room.

Do not want.

DJ's left nut 11-01-2010 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 7136212)
Prick? Check. Cancer? Check. But he's got familiarity with Cassel and our NE-ish system and could pay dividends immediately. With a true deep threat who can easily adjust to Cassel's shitty downfield throws and our running game, we instantly become a force on offense and honest-to-God contenders.

If we can find a way, we have to do it.


THIS!

I mean mother****ing this!

How can anyone just disregard the possibility of picking up one of the 3 most talented WRs of all time (and possibly the best deep threat of all time) for nothing in a season where we're a downfield threat away from being legitimately dangerous?

It just blows my mind how risk-averse some people are or how pollyannaish they can be.

Shaun Smith's rep in the league was every bit as bad, if not worse, than Moss's and he's been a God-sent for us. Smith was seen as an absolute cancer, a QB punching dicksock. He stuff's the run for us a few times and now "he's our lunatic ball-grabber..."

Winning cures all. Bring Moss in and we can legitimately start considering post-season possibilities.

Or we can just keep sending Terrance Copper out there with Chris Chambers.

Dante84 11-01-2010 01:44 PM

Shit... Now I'm nervous he'll end up in SD or Denver...


hmm....

Sofa King 11-01-2010 01:46 PM

i hope the bills claim him before an AFC West Team does.

Stinger 11-01-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7136242)
Shit... Now I'm nervous he'll end up in SD or Denver...


hmm....

I really don't think he can cure what ails Denver..........

Reerun_KC 11-01-2010 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 7136242)
Shit... Now I'm nervous he'll end up in SD or Denver...


hmm....


I remember the fear of him in Oakland....

I also remember the bashing he took from us chiefs fans for quiting on plays...

Now we want him?

Thig Lyfe 11-01-2010 01:47 PM

I wonder if he ever established any sort of rapport with Cassel in NE?

DMAC 11-01-2010 01:48 PM

I think the lambs or the titans are better candidates.

RealSNR 11-01-2010 01:49 PM

I'd love to see Haley interact with Moss. I think we could be MORE successful at transforming Moss than Belichick and the Pats.

kysirsoze 11-01-2010 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7136210)
a) Raiders/Vikings.
b) Vikings/Pats.

I might have worded my response poorly. I meant if both of those things were true as they are for the Chiefs right now. But, just in case...

Did he quit in his rookie year? It's been a while and I know stats don't tell the whole story, but over 1300 yards and 17 TDs plus 148 yards and 2 TDs in the playoffs. Pretty good for quitting. As far as the Raiders, while he did not play well I would say that falls well into the "not winning" category. That whole team was/is a cancer. I didn't think he quit on the Pats and he definitely didn't quit in his first season.

The guys clearly an asshole, but has shown that when put in a good position, he can be a game changer. Low risk, high reward. Take him if we can get him.

The Franchise 11-01-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DMAC (Post 7136251)
I think the lambs or the titans are better candidates.

The Rams are the only ones I could see......but I don't even know if they'd want him.

Beef Supreme 11-01-2010 01:50 PM

Let's imagine for a minute that he would be good for this team instead of bad for it. We are so far down the waiver list, there is no way we are getting him.

kstater 11-01-2010 01:50 PM

I think it's likely he's claimed by either SD or Denver.

JD10367 11-01-2010 01:52 PM

Here's the deal with Moss: even knowing everything I know about him, as a Patriot fan I'd welcome the dude back. Because the bottom line is, even if he doesn't catch a ball during a game, he spreads the field and commands attention.

He only caught one pass yesterday because that's how the Patriots wanted it. He was blanketed, passed from linebacker to defensive back, and kept an eye on at all times. But doing that made Percy Harvin have a field day. There's a good reason Welker's numbers have gone down, as well as Brady's, in the games since Randy left: the field is no longer stretched but is instead compressed, making it harder to run those short routes. The Patriots have had to run the ball, play better defense, and--yes--get some breaks.

As a Chief, with Randy stretching the field, it would create a lot more room and less attention for Bowe and Moeaki. And with the running game the Chiefs already have... shit, Moss could never catch a pass and still help the Chiefs win.

Psyko Tek 11-01-2010 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7136158)
This guy would be worth the risk outside of Bowe & Moeaki we don't have much at WR bringing Moss would also open up things for McCluster.

and his blocking?

I don't see him a as worth the trouble
maybe if we had a QB that could pass
but still a maybe

Brock 11-01-2010 01:53 PM

I don't personally think he'll be claimed off of waivers.

RealSNR 11-01-2010 01:53 PM

This is speculation, but what Moss said in his press conference was clearly an indictment against his coach and his team/the way they were run.

He signs with that circus in San Diego and how do you think he'll react to Norv Turner? About as well as Brad Childress is my guess.

GoTrav 11-01-2010 01:54 PM

Seattle and Miami showing interest per NFL Network. Does Moss have any choice in where he goes or is he just stuck with whatever team claims him?

Bwana 11-01-2010 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet (Post 7136263)
Let's imagine for a minute that he would be good for this team instead of bad for it. We are so far down the waiver list, there is no way we are getting him.



BINGO!!

JD10367 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoTrav (Post 7136276)
Seattle and Miami showing interest per NFL Net. Does Moss have any choice in where he goes or is he just stuck with whatever team claims him?

Well, he can obviously choose to retire instead, but otherwise no. It goes in descending order from worst (Bills) to first (New England). If no one claims him by 4pm tomorrow, I think, he's a free agent.

-King- 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

Lemme be subtle here: SIGN THIS ****ING MAN!!!!!!
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DJ's left nut 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

Nah.

Having a guy like Moss open up the field a bit for Charles, McCluster and Moaki wouldn't do us any good at all.

I mean, we haven't been saying all season that Bowe's mis-cast as a #1 and that he needs a legitimate deep threat alongside him in order to make him the elite #2 his talent says he should be or anything.

C'mon folks - WRs are dicks. They always have been and likely always will be. There are maybe 3 or 4 guys in the league that can help this WR corps as much as Randy Moss and I don't think Detroit or Houston are real inclined to send us their gamebreakers anytime soon. To simply say "no, Moss will hurt us" is just naive.

kstater 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GoTrav (Post 7136276)
Seattle and Miami showing interest per NFL Network. Does Moss have any choice in where he goes or is he just stuck with whatever team claims him?


First team in line that claims him, gets him.

Jerm 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

@Adam_Schefter Teams likely to consider claiming Randy Moss on waivers: Cowboys, Redskins, Rams, Bears, Dolphins, Raiders, Chiefs, Jets, Patriots.

the Talking Can 11-01-2010 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 7136261)
I might have worded my response poorly. I meant if both of those things were true as they are for the Chiefs right now. But, just in case...

Did he quit in his rookie year? It's been a while and I know stats don't tell the whole story, but over 1300 yards and 17 TDs plus 148 yards and 2 TDs in the playoffs. Pretty good for quitting. As far as the Raiders, while he did not play well I would say that falls well into the "not winning" category. That whole team was/is a cancer. I didn't think he quit on the Pats and he definitely didn't quit in his first season.

The guys clearly an asshole, but has shown that when put in a good position, he can be a game changer. Low risk, high reward. Take him if we can get him.

he quit on the vikes this year (a)

and he quit on a winning pats team (b)

and he's quit on every team he's been on....people can claim he be teh awesome for us, but not for any reason grounded in reality...

he's been essentially cut twice THIS year....

hey, sign the guy....but spare me the 'he'll play hard for us because' bullshit....

Sofa King 11-01-2010 01:57 PM

If he is claimed by SD, any sports media is going to be unbearable to watch or listen to...

the superbowl birds with be flying in the news again..

blaise 11-01-2010 01:57 PM

Raider employees have spent the last 20 minutes trying to get Al Davis to remember that Randy already played there once.

kysirsoze 11-01-2010 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoTrav (Post 7136276)
Seattle and Miami showing interest per NFL Network. Does Moss have any choice in where he goes or is he just stuck with whatever team claims him?

He has a choice. He can choose not to play.

Titty Meat 11-01-2010 01:58 PM

Teams likely to consider claiming Randy Moss on waivers: Cowboys, Redskins, Rams, Bears, Dolphins, Raiders, Chiefs, Jets, Patriots.
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Bwana 11-01-2010 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7136273)
I don't personally think he'll be claimed off of waivers.

I don't know Brock. I would be willing to bet that SOMEONE will take a chance on the trash can.

The Franchise 11-01-2010 01:58 PM

Miami would be interesting. Henne would have Marshall and Moss as his #1 and #2....and that would Bess in the slot.

ReynardMuldrake 11-01-2010 01:59 PM

It's a curse. I guarantee whoever picks him up is going to start losing.

oldandslow 11-01-2010 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7136289)
he quit on the vikes this year (a)

and he quit on a winning pats team (b)

and he's quit on every team he's been on....people can claim he be teh awesome for us, but not for any reason grounded in reality...

he's been essentially cut twice THIS year....

hey, sign the guy....but spare me the 'he'll play hard for us because' bullshit....

Remember Eddie Kennison...

...and I would argue about his "quitting the pats."

The Franchise 11-01-2010 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by billay (Post 7136300)
Teams likely to consider claiming Randy Moss on waivers: Cowboys, Redskins, Rams, Bears, Dolphins, Raiders, Chiefs, Jets, Patriots.
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All of those teams are viable options except the Cowboys, Raiders and Jets.

kstater 11-01-2010 02:00 PM

Dilfer and Bruschi are absolutely murdering Childress on ESPN.

chiefsnorth 11-01-2010 02:00 PM

He will never make down to us. No need to worry about it.
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DJ's left nut 11-01-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7136289)
he quit on the vikes this year (a)

and he quit on a winning pats team (b)

and he's quit on every team he's been on....people can claim he be teh awesome for us, but not for any reason grounded in reality...

he's been essentially cut twice THIS year....

hey, sign the guy....but spare me the 'he'll play hard for us because' bullshit....

He didn't quit.

He got uppity and the NE coaching staff started to work him out of the playbook so they could deal him without impacting their offense too greatly.

And if he quit? Oh well, I'll take his performance as a quitter over Chambers/Copper. For as 'awful' as Moss has been this year, he still has 5 TDs and probably the best TD catch you'll see all season (if not him, Moeaki).

He fits our weaknesses too well to not consider him. Teams bring in good character guys for more than convenience. They bring in good character guys to build a solid foundation. With a foundation in place, you can bring in a handful of guys like Randy Moss or Shaun Smith because you know you have 50 other guys in that locker room you can count on to keep them in line.

Character guys impact more than just themselves and passing on the occasional headcase talent like Moss in the name of preserving 'team character' fails to utilize one of the key advantages of having that character - the ability to carry a talented malcontent or two.

-King- 11-01-2010 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warispeace (Post 7136305)
It's a curse. I guarantee whoever picks him up is going to start losing.

Just signing him makes mccluster a better WR. He makes this whole offense better. He can catch Cassels overthrows and opens up underneath routes for dmc moeaki and our rbs.
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Thig Lyfe 11-01-2010 02:01 PM

This is why Haley's new strategy of winning games is worthless. If the Chiefs were playing the way they did last year, we'd have a clean shot at Moss!

Chiefnj2 11-01-2010 02:02 PM

How did he quit on the Vikings? It looked to me like the Pats had him doubled all the time yesterday. From what Moss said, the Vikings didn't pay him any attention when he tried to help game plan. It's not his fault Childress is half a reerun.

Frazod 11-01-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsnorth (Post 7136313)
He will never make down to us. No need to worry about it.
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Probably. I just hope he doesn't go somewhere he can hurt us.

ReynardMuldrake 11-01-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing (Post 7136321)
Just signing him makes mccluster a better WR. He makes this whole offense better. He can catch Cassels overthrows and opens up underneath routes for dmc moeaki and our rbs.
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He has the ability to do those things. Doesn't mean he actually will.

The Franchise 11-01-2010 02:03 PM

****ing hell. Just think about how big the holes would be for Charles and Jones. Just think about the single coverages that Bowe and Moeaki would pull.

Pablo 11-01-2010 02:03 PM

Randy Moss would negate the shit play of Matt Cassel. We are instant contenders for the AFC Championship with a legit downfield threat.

I mean ****, do some of you ****s hate the idea of us going to the SuperBowl?

oldandslow 11-01-2010 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7136326)
How did he quit on the Vikings? It looked to me like the Pats had him doubled all the time yesterday. From what Moss said, the Vikings didn't pay him any attention when he tried to help game plan. It's not his fault Childress is half a reerun.

One of the two worst HC's in the NFL...


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